Maharana Pratap of Mewar

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He was not successful but his struggle DID NOT go in vain

Years later Rana Pratap inspired Shivaji who was faced with a much bigger tyrant ie Aurangzeb

If Rana pratap had also not struggled maybe there would have been No
inspirational figure left for Hindus in their quest for freedom from Muslim rule
When Shivaji got himself coronated he claimed to be a descendant of Rana Pratap and a member of the Sisodia dynasty of rana pratap---though this was untrue of course .

He wanted to prove that he was a kshatriya and therefore fit for the throne.
 

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Re: Maharana pratap. . The Lengendary freedom fighter

When Shivaji got himself coronated he claimed to be a descendant of Rana Pratap and a member of the Sisodia dynasty of rana pratap---though this was untrue of course .

He wanted to prove that he was a kshatriya and therefore fit for the throne.
IIRC no pundit was willing to perform coronation ceremony due to his Shudra ancestry. They finally got a guy from Benares and fabricated the whole "sisodia" part
 

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Has any one visited "Rakta Talai" where the battle of Haldi Ghati was fought ?
 

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What i dont understand is in view of any foreign attack why do all the Hindu Kings get scared except for the likes of Prithvi,Rana,Shivaji,Hemu and co. Why are they so scared about ?

These guys werent scared of anybody and look how Great they have become. Sending their daughters to marry off to Mughals, accepting superiority from British. I mean all these things are ----ing Ridiculuos.
 

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Sisodia Kings who ruled from Udaipur

Rana Udai Singh II – reigned 1568-1572
Maharana Pratap Singh – reigned 1572-1597
Rana Amar Singh I – reigned 1597-1620
Rana Karan Singh – reigned 1620-28
Rana Jagat Singh I – reigned 1628-54
Rana Raj Singh I – reigned 1654- 1681
Maharana Jai Singh – reigned 1681-1700
Rana Amar Singh II – reigned 1700-16
Maharana Sangram Singh II – reigned 1716-34
Rana Jagat Singh II – reigned 1734-51
Rana Pratap Singh II – reigned 1752-55
Rana Raj Singh II – reigned 1755-62
Rana Ari Singh II – reigned 1762-72
Rana Hamir Singh II – reigned 1772-78
Rana Bhim Singh – reigned 1778-1828
Maharana Jawan Singh – reigned 1828-38
Maharana Swaroop Singh – reigned 1842-1861
Maharana Shambhu Singh – reigned 1861-74
Rana Sajjan Singh – reigned 1874-84
Maharana Fateh Singh – reigned 1884-1930
Maharana Bhopal Singh – reigned 1930-55
Maharana Bhagwat Singh – reigned 1955-84
Maharana Arvind Singh from 1984-

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Is Arvind Singhji the elder sibling ?

Was the older brother having all his senses / faculties intact when Arvind Singh ascended the throne?

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What i dont understand is in view of any foreign attack why do all the Hindu Kings get scared except for the likes of Prithvi,Rana,Shivaji,Hemu and co. Why are they so scared about ?

These guys werent scared of anybody and look how Great they have become. Sending their daughters to marry off to Mughals, accepting superiority from British. I mean all these things are ----ing Ridiculuos.
Hindu Kings were not scared , simply many of them were facing with insurmountable odds. You will have to compare record of Hindu kings with those of Chinese and you will get the difference. Chinese always had large empires, yet they sent their own princesses(akin to selling one's own daughter) to Barbarian Huns, Turks etc. Rajput kingdoms were very small and so they had little option other than complete destruction. Likes of Rana Pratap are sun among men but not every chief can be that.
 

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Is Arvind Singhji the elder sibling ?

Was the older brother having all his senses / faculties intact when Arvind Singh ascended the throne?

Kindly put me wise!!

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The answer is no... and yes respectively.

Why are you playing with troubled water ??

What do you want to prove.... Go and Meet Bhupal Singhji in Udaipur.
 

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Hindu Kings were not scared , simply many of them were facing with insurmountable odds. You will have to compare record of Hindu kings with those of Chinese and you will get the difference. Chinese always had large empires, yet they sent their own princesses(akin to selling one's own daughter) to Barbarian Huns, Turks etc. Rajput kingdoms were very small and so they had little option other than complete destruction. Likes of Rana Pratap are sun among men but not every chief can be that.
Some times or many a times the options with a society and their rulers depend on how much one had to loose and what they could do to save that. After all the aim of a state, large or small, is self preservation, be it in the times of Mahabharata or during Mogul times.

To begin with Kings like Shivaji and Rana Pratap did not have much to loose and hence they could opt to fight. When Marathas spread and bloated unmanageable then they also entered into treaties and compromises. Ranas of Mewar actually had nothing much significant to loose except for their honor. Jodhpur, Jiapur and Jaisalmer actually had much more to loose if they were to be defeated in wars. They therefore were forced to compromise with larger and more powerful enemies...
 
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Some times or many a times the options with a society and their rulers depend on how much one had to loose and what they could do to save that. After all the aim of a state, large or small, is self preservation, be it in the times of Mahabharata or during Mogul times.

To begin with Kings like Shivaji and Rana Pratap did not have much to loose and hence they could opt to fight. When Marathas spread and bloated unmanageable then they also entered into treaties and compromises. Ranas of Mewar actually had nothing much significant to loose except for their honor. Jodhpur, Jiapur and Jaisalmer actually had much more to loose if they were to be defeated in wars. They therefore were forced to compromise with larger and more powerful enemies...
Wrong. Jaisalmer was too tiny and was very poor before Mughal age as compared to Mewar. Mewar had more to lose from wars rather than siding with Mughals. Mewar was the only state in whole world that fought with largest empires of world for centuries.
Marathas made compromises even during Shivaji or else he would not have surrendered before Mirza Jai Singh.
 

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Some times or many a times the options with a society and their rulers depend on how much one had to loose and what they could do to save that. After all the aim of a state, large or small, is self preservation, be it in the times of Mahabharata or during Mogul times.

To begin with Kings like Shivaji and Rana Pratap did not have much to loose and hence they could opt to fight. When Marathas spread and bloated unmanageable then they also entered into treaties and compromises. Ranas of Mewar actually had nothing much significant to loose except for their honor. Jodhpur, Jiapur and Jaisalmer actually had much more to loose if they were to be defeated in wars. They therefore were forced to compromise with larger and more powerful enemies...



Compromising with enemies who have beheaded your half population and looted your woman temple and wealth

I will rather go and live in a jungle and fight a life long war against them instead of compromising with them
 

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Re: Maharana pratap. . The Lengendary freedom fighter

IIRC no pundit was willing to perform coronation ceremony due to his Shudra ancestry. They finally got a guy from Benares and fabricated the whole "sisodia" part
As per Sir Jadunath Sarkar, he was not Kunabi but Bhosale. Though Bhosale had no common origin, no common binding factor, and no common ancestry etc.

However, he was not Kunabi. the other larger peasant community of Maharashtra.

What makes you say he had Shudra origin.
 

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Compromising with enemies who have beheaded your half population and looted your woman temple and wealth

I will rather go and live in a jungle and fight a life long war against them instead of compromising with them
That is what Marathas did and that is what Rana Pratap did because they had jungles and inaccessible land to go to. Had there not been inaccecible Western Ghats and its traps and Basalt rocky mountains, scrubs and jungles, Marathas would not have been Marathas. Similarly, The mountains and Jungles around Chittor and Udaipur makes the terrain inaccessible where Maharna Paratap spent his time in exile, prepared and reorganised. You go and see the mountains around Mount Abu inhabited by Gharasia tribe where the Mogul horses or elephants could have not penetrated. That what made Pratap a Maharana to constantly challenge The Moguls and ultimately die as an Independent man rather than a Mogul slave.

You jump the gun before understand things.
 

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That is what Marathas did and that is what Rana Pratap did because they had jungles and inaccessible land to go to. Had there not been inaccecible Western Ghats and its traps and Basalt rocky mountains, scrubs and jungles, Marathas would not have been Marathas. Similarly, The mountains and Jungles around Chittor and Udaipur makes the terrain inaccessible where Maharna Paratap spent his time in exile, prepared and reorganised. You go and see the mountains around Mount Abu inhabited by Gharasia tribe where the Mogul horses or elephants could have not penetrated. That what made Pratap a Maharana to constantly challenge The Moguls and ultimately die as an Independent man rather than a Mogul slave.

You jump the gun before understand things.
There will always be something to fight with, always something to aid Your Fight Provided You Really want to fight the enemy.
 

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The answer is no... and yes respectively.

Why are you playing with troubled water ??

What do you want to prove.... Go and Meet Bhupal Singhji in Udaipur.
I want to prove nothing more than this,

The law of succession amongst Hindus is very clear


Elder son is the karta in HUF, amongst the nobility more so,

Present incumbent on the throne of Mewar is a usurper.

What troubled water am I playing with? this is a fact
 

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Is Arvind Singhji the elder sibling ?

Was the older brother having all his senses / faculties intact when Arvind Singh ascended the throne?

Kindly put me wise!!

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He is the younger brother. IIRC (may be wrong here) the council of Mewar didn't agree on crowning the elder brother.
Mewar's royal council is not only a feature that puts it different from the rest of Rajputana, but it was also a powerful force that at times even stood in defiance to the King.
Such a functionning council is one of the reasons why Mewar was not only independent, but bounced back from bad times again and again.
 

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He is the younger brother. IIRC (may be wrong here) the council of Mewar didn't agree on crowning the elder brother.
Mewar's royal council is not only a feature that puts it different from the rest of Rajputana, but it was also a powerful force that at times even stood in defiance to the King.
Such a functionning council is one of the reasons why Mewar was not only independent, but bounced back from bad times again and again.
It was this coucil, I suppose, which intervened when Rana Pratap was denied throne and was going out of capital. Also, the Pitrahanta son of Kumbha could not enjoy his crown due to this council which never accepted him.
The situation among Rathores of Jodhpur was different with Maldeo ruling with heavy hand.
 

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