Madhya Pradesh Stampede and the Indian Police

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    Madhya Pradesh Stampede and the Indian Police | The Diplomat

     
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    I don't believe the Indian police were nearly as cruel as described in the ToI, but I'm still surprised that so many Indian police still lack a basic understanding of crowd management techniques. Given how densely populated India is, and how easily passionate crowds form at various religious sites, shouldn't such training be mandatory?
     
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    The callous and apathetic attitude of the Chinese Govt & CCP led to the massacre of peaceful protesters at Tienanmen Square and what about the total callousness and insult and insensibility to the humanity engineered by the Govt itself that led to killings of million?

    So, I am totally touched by your concern about a stampede.

    Stampedes unlike engineered Govt terrorism cannot be organised!
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

    Reported for moving thread off-topic.
     
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    Compared to Chinese police, you will be surprised that they are like pussy cats!

    True, the crowd management techniques are not as good as China given that they are not allowed tanks in the inventory to control crowds!
     
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    Did you even read the article? The police were throwing people off a bridge into a river - the elderly, children, pregnant women.
     
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    I have not only read it but also saw the video coverage, TV debates on the crisis and the analysis.

    It appears that you did not know that sarees were draped and was being used as 'rappelling ropes' so to say.

    There were people getting totally asphyxiated.

    The media of India, unlike the Govt controlled media of China, tends to sensationalise as they depend on revenues from the readership and thus advertisements.

    But then, that is the price of freedom!

    And the General Elections are barely six months away.

    So, everyone wants to catch the eyeballs of the voters.

    But this you will not understand since you do not know what are elections in a democracy.
     
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    Again, you are attacking the source here instead of attacking the argument; what's more, were the police the ones setting up the ropes? Indian police do not wear sarees.

    The police were throwing people off the bridge. That is documented fact, no matter how much you try to obfuscate it.
     
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    Since you are going by one news report, you are not seized of the issue.

    We have seen the TV Debates (and this is election year) and the politicians on opposing sides were going for each other's throats, so to say.

    There were just 12 policemen and the crowd was over a lakh.

    Some idiots also tried to pass through my cars and tractors, which further added to the chaos.

    Thus, there was inadequate bandobast.

    The District Administration failed.

    This being Election year, the Code of Conduct is in place, where politicians cannot go where there is a congregation, since that would mean wooing the crowd for votes showing religious affinity

    Thus, the State Govt claimed that they could not interfere since now the District Administration were working without political guidance.

    There is no obfuscation at all.

    One has to understand what is religion and what is the rush and chaos that occurs for all these religious festivals.

    Heard of the Kumbh Mela.

     
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    Did you even read the article ? It doesn't say pregnant women anywhere. Looks like the CCP propaganda strain in your DNA is working hard.

    Anyway, will have to wait for the inquiry to know what happened and why it happened. I don't really trust Indian reporters.
     
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    People nursed to adulthood with propaganda are pregnant with glee to add salacious twist to issues.
     

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