Love Jihad: Hindu Girls deceitfully forced into Islam

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    Love Jihad in Kerala

    Love Jihad in Manjeri, Kerala: Girl, father move HC

    By Express News Service - KOCHI 27th June 2012

    A 19-year-old girl who eloped with her lover submitted before the Kerala High Court that about 30 girls belonging to various religions were undergoing religious instructions in Sathyasarani Religious Educational Institute, Manjeri, hinting at the possible religious conversions taking place in the state.

    The statement was made by the girl in a Habeas Corpus petition filed by her father stating that his daughter was in the illegal custody of a person called Mohammed Hassan. The girl, a Hindu, was a parallel college student when she entered into a relationship with Mohammad Hassan alias Amnas. In her deposition before the court, she stated that she was converted to Islam and her ‘nikah’ was held at Kondotty. However, in another deposition before the court, Hassan denied having conducted the marriage.

    The petitioner, father of the girl, pointed out that the court should also look into the status of the 42 girls missing from in and around Manjeri under similar circumstances admitted in the same religious institution.

    In her deposition, the girl stated that on June 9 this year, she had eloped with Hassan to Bangalore. They stayed in a lodge till June 17. The next day, they appeared before the Judicial First Class Magistrate Court, Tirur. She submitted that at present she is staying at Sathyasarani Religious Educational Institute.

    Hassan admitted before the court that they had eloped to Bangalore and stayed at the lodge. He had taken the girl to Maunathul Islam Association, Ponnani, for converting the girl to Islam, but they returned from that place as it was not safe or clean. He further submitted that he would marry her provided she converts to Islam.

    Considering the petition, a Division Bench comprising Justice K T Sankaran and M L Joseph Francis sent the girl to Santhiniketan hostel in Kochi.

    “The girl is confused and knows nothing about conversion to another religion, nor is she capable of taking independent decisions,” the court observed and posted the case to July 4.

    Love Jihad in Manjeri: Girl, father move HC - The New Indian Express
     
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    Whatever Govt. may report, growing incidences of non-Muslims girls to Muslim conversions for marriage prove that there is a Love-Jihad in Kerala. In fact in this modern age it's quiet easy to abet a girl for marriage and conversion for that, as girls are the soft and easiest targets for it. And this girl is only 19 years old.

    There must be a legislation to stop such treacherous conversions to a particular community in our country.

    She must not convert and it must not happen, if court finds that they should get married then Special Marriage Act should be applied, otherwise legal actions should be taken against that boy as the court has observed that "The girl is confused and knows nothing about conversion to another religion, nor is she capable of taking independent decisions". Maunathul Islam Association should be inquired thoroughly it will give more evidences against Love-Jihad if it is organized.

    Seriously this must be stopped!
     
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    Love Jihad is not about particular incident or series of incident but Islamist mindset which exist in our society and even other parts of the world. (Recently in UK)
     
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    Yeah I agree such mindset comes either from religious texts or by Islamist education they have received, or why there are conversions only to Islam?

    People and Govt. should open their eyes, too much of negligence is not good!:mad:

    One coincident - the same Justice KT Sankaran who saw the 2008 case is in this case too, lets wait for something good or at least it can serve as an eye opener.

    IMO 18 years of age doesn't make a person capable to understand religions and religious bigotry, so for conversions age should be increased to 25 years, all the conversions below that age should be null and void specially if they are for marriage purposes. What say ?
     
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    Happens all the time. Imran Khan did it with Jamima Goldsmith. First love without strings, then I can only marry you if you convert.

    For the sake of inter community harmony, there must be redress for this form of religious chauvinism.
     
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    And all this in Glorius, Secular, Peaceful Kerala:rolleyes:. Lets see how our secular friends react for this thread:hmm:
     
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    One has to check also if the girls willing went because they wanted to get economically 'upbeat'!

    Given the rise of expectations and crave for creature comforts, many would swap a economically backward conditions for a better 'placement' economically, even if it meant some serious sacrifices.
     
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    economics and poverty here too?

    This incident has nothing to do with the poverty or economic benefits. Some thing which is obviously staring at our face is being ignored by us, the same way ostritch keeps its head into the sand in times of danger.
     
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    Nowhere is it mentioned that it is not.

    If it were in love and that is why they eloped, and if it were true love, then why did she not convert?

    While I agree conversion in a dubious way is most disgraceful and reprehensible, yet at the same time, unless it is proved beyond doubt, nothing stares me in the face!

    Economics, poverty and injustice no doubt is what spurs the most heinous of acts!
     
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    This is RSS propaganda which is nothing but Hindu militant. Islam is the religion of peace.
     
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    I am not saying it is RSS propaganda.

    The case does have a whiff of some skulduggery.

    Investigate Sathyasarani Religious Educational Institute.

    All I am saying is that let it be investigated and let there be adequate proof and then nail the culprits and hang them.

    But before that don't jump to conclusions that favours one's viewpoint.
     
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    Ray Sir, I am trying to be secular! :)
     
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    This is the only other news item I could find recently on this

    Anyone who knows even a little bit about Islam will know that it is UnIslamic to go out on dates with unrelated members of the opposite sex. So its funny to see the attempt to keep adding the "Jihad" tag to it even though it keeps getting disproved by the courts and police time and time again. You have to be a non-practicing Muslim if you are doing so. Imran Khan use to drink alcohol e.t.c. which are clearly UnIslamic when he got married with Jemima. He had a daughter out of wedlock with Sita white. Again that is fornication and considered forbidden. So how can you twist this and attach some "Jihad" angle to that. It defies common sense.

    An older court proceeding on the same allegation for people who want to read the other side of the story
    The Hindu : Karnataka / Bangalore News : ‘No love jihad movement in State'
     
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    The same question can be, if it is true love, why did that peaceful fellow need her to convert to his religion?:rolleyes:

    NO way economics was responsible for monsters involved in 9/11 or any other bomb blast for that matter.
     
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    This is a serious problem and a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. The first and foremost thing which has to be done is Hindu reformation. Theoretically, there is nothing wrong with a girl marrying a muslim as long as she stays true to her religion or converts in her free will. Practically what happens is, she is forcefully converted as we see here. Therefore, our socio-religious institutions must give clear instructions to the women and make them understand why it is a matter of national interest, to not be trapped by this Love Jihad going on, as make no mistake about it, the muslim community in general are clearly desirous of making themselves a majority and carving out yet another part of Bharatmata or worse still, declare it a caliphate or something like that.
    But largely I wouldn't blame the Muslims as it is the Hindus who are failing to protect their identity progressively. First we must get our house in order if we are to meet the social challenges which lurk outside it.
     
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    One should be secular but not peculiar! :)
     
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    Seriously? I dont care what is Islamic or Hinduistic,

    What I care about is its effect on the society, and I am really not very happy with it.
     
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    Come on, only an idiot can think that the conversion rate of 86/month, that too among women, that too for a religion like Islam has no organised effect.

    The basic principle in thermodyanamics is that the there is always a spontaneous movement from less random state to more random state. And the opposite is true only if there is "external energy" spent for it

    I dont think the converted girls are Masochists, who like to punish themselves to derive pleasure, that they convert to Islam, considering how well Islam treats them. Seriously, its a no brainer!!!:noidea:
     

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