Lockheed Martin Unveils First New F-16 For Pakistan

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  1. Costanza

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    Lockheed Martin unveils first F-16 Block 52 ordered by Pakistan

    Lockheed Martin unveils first F-16 Block 52 ordered by Pakistan

    Lockheed Martin today unveiled the first of up to 36 F-16 Block 52 fighters that could be sold to the Pakistan Air Force in a ceremony attended by the chiefs of both Pakistani US air forces.

    The so-called “Peace Drive I” programme brokered by the US government once called for Pakistan to buy up to 55 F-16s. That number has been reduced to firm orders for 12 single-seat F-16C and six F-16Ds.

    Pakistan also has signed options to buy 18 more F-16 Block 52s, all powered by Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engines.

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    The F-16s currently on order represent the “latest configuration of the best 4th generation multirole fighter available in the world today,” John Larson, vice president of F-16 programmes for Lockheed Martin, said in a statement.

    In June 2006, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency listed the systems that Pakistan had requested for its F-16s.

    Requested sensors included Northrop Grumman mechanically-scanned APG-68(V)9 radars and ITT ALQ-211(V)9 advanced integrated defensive electronic warfare suites (AIDEWS) without digital radio frequency memory.

    The proposed weapons package included an order for 500 Raytheon AIM-120C5 advanced medium range air to air missiles, 200 Raytheon AIM-9M-8/9 Sidewinders, 500 Boeing joint direct attack munitions, 1,600 enhanced GBU-12/24 laser-guided bombs and 700 BLU-109 penetrator bombs.

    Lockheed is also under contract to upgrade 34 Pakistan F-16A/B Block 15 fighters with modern weapons and sensors.

    PICTURES: Lockheed Martin unveils first F-16 Block 52 ordered by Pakistan

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  3. ahmedsid

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    These, F16s will bring in a sigh of relief for the PAF, I mean they are badly in need of something with this kind of techonology, especially BVR.

    The Block 52s are good fighters, and will prove to be better with PAF with their decades of experience using the F16s.

    But what I want to know is, is this is a stop gap measure till the J10s arrive? The Americans would be keeping a close eye on these birds, to make sure, no chinese is seen within the perimeter of this baby! :D
     
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    does this means until now the PAF doesnt have BVR capability?
     
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    PAF had limited to No BVR Capability as far as I have read. They did have the Rose etc, but still, this will be the first time they will have a potent BVR platform. Maybe someone will shed some light on the Radars, EW suites etc coming with this jet. I mean not their Specification but their capabilities.
     
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    Radar: APG 68(V8 or V9)...not sure which one(I bet its the V9).
    RWR: AN/ALR-56M
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    A good fighter, but 4th gen stuff. Even their AMRAAM is a generation behind.
     
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    Details of the potential sale to Pakistan

    July 5, 2006 (by Lieven Dewitte) - Last week U.S. Congress was notified of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan F-16 aircraft as well as associated equipment and services. Here is a detailed list of this potential sale along with some of the controversies it might create.

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    Congress technically has 30 days to veto the $5.1bn arms deal with Islamabad but it has never exercised that power on a major arms sale yet.

    The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of:

    Item 1: 36 New F-16 Block 50/52s - $3 billion

    The package for Pakistan's new F-16s also includes:
    • 36 F-16C/D Block 50/52 aircraft with either the F100-PW-229 or F110-GE-129 Increased Performance Engines (IPEs) and APG-68(V)9 radars;
    • 7 spare F100-PW-229 IPE or F110-GE-129 IPE engines;
    • 7 spare APG-68(V)9 radar sets;
    • 36 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS);
    • 36 AN/ARC-238 SINCGARS radios with HAVE QUICK I/II;
    • 36 Conformal Fuel Tanks (pairs) that fit along the aircraft's sides to give them extra range;
    • 36 Link-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution System-Low Volume Terminals; DID has covered the tactical uses of MIDS-LVT Link 16 systems;
    • 36 Global Positioning Systems (GPS) and Embedded GPS/Inertial Navigation Systems;
    • 36 APX-113 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe Systems;
    • 36 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites without Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM); or AN/ALQ-184 Electronic Counter Measures pod without DRFM; or AN/ALQ-131 Electronic Counter Measures pod without DRFM; or AN/ALQ-187 Advanced Self-Protection Integrated Suites without DRFM; or AN/ALQ-178 Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suites without DRFM;
    • 1 Unit Level Trainer;

    Associated support equipment, software development/integration, modification kits, capability to employ a wide variety of munitions, spares and repair parts, flight test instrumentation, publications and technical documentation, CONUS-personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, and other related requirements to ensure full program supportability.

    The principal contractors will be:
    • Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company, Fort Worth, TX;
    • Lockheed Martin Missile and Fire Control, Dallas, TX;
    • BAE Advanced Systems Greenlawn, NY;
    • Boeing Corporation Seattle, WA;
    • Boeing Integrated Defense Systems: St Louis, MO; Long Beach, CA; San Diego, CA;
    • Raytheon Company: Lexington, MA; Goleta, CA;
    • Raytheon Missile Systems in Tucson, AZ;
    • Northrop-Grumman Electro-Optical Systems in Garland, TX;
    • Northrop-Grumman Electronic Systems in Baltimore, MD;
    • United Technology Company subsidiary Pratt & Whitney in East Hartford, CT; or
    • General Electric Aircraft Engines in Cincinnati, OH. There are no known offset agreements in connection with this proposed sale. Implementation of this proposed sale will require multiple trips to Pakistan involving U.S. Government and contractor representatives for technical review/support and program management of the aircraft.

    Item 2: Weapons for F-16C/D Block 50/52 Aircraft - $650 Million

    The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of:500 AIM-120C5 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM);
    12 AMRAAM training missiles
    these have seeker warheads, but lack engines;
    200 AIM-9M-8/9 Sidewinder Short-Range Air-Air Missiles; they are the version before the fifth-generation AIM-9X;
    240 LAU-129/A Launchers
    these support AMRAAM or Sidewinder missiles;
    500 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) Guidance Kits: GBU-31/38 Guided Bomb Unit (GBU) kits;
    1600 Enhanced-GBU-12/24 GBUs;
    800 MK-82 500 pound General Purpose (GP) and MK-84 2,000 pound GP bombs;
    700 BLU-109 2000 pound bunker-buster bombs with the FMU-143 Fuse; and,
    Associated support equipment, software development/integration, modification kits, capability to employ a wide variety of munitions, spares, and repair parts, flight test instrumentation, publications, and technical documentation, CONUS-personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, and other related requirements to ensure full program supportability will also be provided.

    The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $650 million.

    The principal contractors will be:
    • BAE Advanced Systems in Greenlawn, NY;
    • Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company in Fort Worth, TX;
    • Lockheed Martin Missile and Fire Control in Dallas, TX;
    • Northrop-Grumman Electro-Optical Systems in Garland, TX; and,
    • Northrop-Grumman Electronic Systems in Baltimore, MD. There are no known offset agreements in connection with this proposed sale. Implementation of this proposed sale will require multiple trips to Pakistan involving U.S. Government and contractor representatives for technical review/support, program management, and modification of the aircraft.

    Item 3: F-16A/B Mid-Life Update Modification Kits - $1.3 billion

    The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of 60 F-16A/B Mid-Life Update (MLU) modification and Falcon Star Structural Service Life Enhancement kits consisting of:


    • APG-68(V)9 with Synthetic Aperture Radar or the APG-66(V)2 radar;
    • Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS);
    • AN/APX-113 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe Systems;
    • AN/ALE-47 Advanced Countermeasures Dispenser Systems;
    • Have Quick I/II Radios;
    • Link-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution System-Low Volume Terminals (MIDS-LVT);
    • SNIPER (formerly known as AN/AAQ-33 PANTERA) targeting pod capability;
    • Reconnaissance pod capability;
    • Advanced Air Combat Maneuvering Instrumentation Units (for training);

    MDE included in the MLU modification and structural upgrade kits;

    • 21 ALQ-131 Block II Electronic Countermeasures Pods without the Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM); or ALQ-184 Electronic Countermeasures Pods without DRFM;
    • 60 ALQ-213 Electronic Warfare Management Systems;
    • 1 Unit Level Trainer;
    • 10 APG-68(V)9 spare radar sets.

    Also included are radars, modems, receivers, installation, avionics, spare and repair parts, support equipment, CONUS-personnel training and training equipment, technical assistance, publications and technical documentation, system drawings, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, and other related logistics elements necessary for full program support.

    The estimated cost is $1.3 billion.

    According to the DSCA, Pakistan intends to purchase the MLU Program equipment "to enhance survivability, communications connectivity, and extend the useful life of its F-16A/B fighter aircraft. The modifications and upgrades in this proposed sale will permit Pakistan's F-16A/B squadron to operate safely and enhance Pakistan's conventional deterrent capability. Pakistan's air fleet can readily use these updates to enhance and extend the life of its aircraft."

    The principal contractors will be:
    • BAE Advanced Systems in Greenlawn, NY;
    • Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company in Fort Worth, TX;
    • Lockheed Martin Missile and Fire Control in Dallas, TX;
    • Northrop-Grumman Electro-Optical Systems in Garland, TX; and,
    • Northrop-Grumman Electronic Systems in Baltimore, MD.


    Item 4: F-16A/B Engine Modifications & UP/STAR - $151 Million

    The third contract involves Engine Modifications and Falcon UP/STAR Structural Upgrades as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $151 million.

    More specifically, the Government of Pakistan has requested engine improvements and structural modifications to its F-16 fleet, which includes a possible sale of:
    • 14 F100-PW-220E engines;
    • 14 Falcon UP/STAR F-16 structural upgrade kits;
    • De-modification and preparation of 26 aircraft;
    • Support equipment;
    • Software development/integration;
    • Modification kits;
    • Spares, and repair parts;
    • Flight test instrumentation;
    • Publications and technical documentation;
    • Personnel training and training equipment;
    • U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics personnel services, and other related requirements to support the program.

    The principal contractors will be:
    • Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company in Fort Worth, TX; and,
    • United Technology Company subsidiary Pratt & Whitney in East Hartford, CT.


    Potential Controversies

    The DSCA has said that "Release of this system would not significantly reduce India's quantitative or qualitative military advantage". India disagrees and military experts in Delhi will likely note that the same equipment (GPS, targeting pods, bunker-busters) that could potentially find uses against al-Qaeda terrorists in Pakistan's "lawless frontier" could also be used in precision strikes on India's military facilities in the event of war.

    The DSCA counters that release of the F-16C/D Block 50/52 aircraft to Pakistan "will neither affect the regional balance of power nor introduce a new technology as this level of capability or higher already exists in other countries in the region". India does operate more advanced SU-30MKI aircraft with R-77 "AMRAAMski" missiles, advanced avionics, et. al.; these are superior in range, armament, and maneuverability to Pakistan's F-16s and will remain so. Meanwhile, India's $7-10 billion MRCA competition is certain to introduce 125-200 aircraft that are certain to be more advanced than the F-16 Block 50/52.

    The U.S. DSCA adds in its submission to Congress that "The modification of the engines and Falcon UP/STAR structural updates will provide capable F-16s that can be used for close air support in ongoing operations contributing to the GWOT." The DSCA also cites the June 2004 designation of Pakistan as a Major Non-North Atlantic Treaty Organization Ally in its submission. The British commander of NATO's ISAF force in Southern Afghanistan sees Pakistan's role in a rather different light, however; he recently noted that al-Qaeda in Afghanistan is still run out of Pakistan (specifically Quetta), with Pakistani knowledge and even support from Islamist elements in its security apparatus. Ah, the dynamics of counter-insurgency in tribal societies. Pakistan angrily denies this, of course.

    India's objections to this sale have been muted thus far, and phrased carefully to emphasize their effect on India-Pakistan ties rather than India-U.S. ties. Meanwhile, President Bush's personal diplomacy approach has fostered a strong relationship with Gen. Musharraf that is inclined to view such requests favourably as part of the U.S.A.'s 3-corner balancing act in the region. Barring unusual circumstances, therefore, it's reasonable to expect this sale to go through with little more than a concerned speech or two in Congress.

    Courtesy of Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA)

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  9. ZOOM

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    Certainly this newest F-16's appears highly potent and will create significent challange to Indian Airforce.
     
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    True, but once our Migs also get their upgrades done, it wont be that easy for them, as we have Numbers and Quality on our part. Now they are one step higher than they were, But this does not make things any Easier for PAF to take on IAF, I mean, potent fighters and all, but small in Numbers.

    Once their current fleet of F16s get through MLUs, then I would say they will be a bit hard to suppress in case of hostilities, but by then we will have the Rafale or Mig 35 with us too.
     
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    How are they going to pay for the f16's,is aid money going to be used or is it there own money.After the earthquake in kashmir they froze the order i believe,as a mark of respect.

    I hope india get's on with it and places its own order for the mmrca soon.
     
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    Lockheed Martin Unveils First New F-16 For Pakistan | Air Force News at DefenceTalk


    FORT WORTH, Texas: Lockheed Martin unveiled the first of 18 new F-16s being produced for Pakistan in ceremonies today at its Fort Worth, Texas, facility. Officials including the Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. and Pakistan Air Forces were on hand to witness the event.

    Air Chief Marshal Rao Quamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force (PAF), accepted the first F-16 Block 52 aircraft on behalf of his nation. Also present were Husain Haqqani, Pakistan's Ambassador to the United States, and other senior officials.

    The U.S. government was represented by Rep. Kay Granger, Texas 12th District, and Gen. Norton Schwartz, Chief of Staff of the Air Force.

    "Peace Drive is the flagship of modernization for Pakistan's Air Force. It is the latest configuration of the best 4th generation multirole fighter available in the world today," said John Larson, vice president of F-16 programs for Lockheed Martin.

    The aircraft order is designated as "Peace Drive I," continuing a long tradition of naming F-16 international sales programs with the word Peace. The program raises the total number of F-16s ordered by Pakistan to 54. The Pakistan Air Force received its first F-16, in the Block 15 F-16A/B configuration, in 1982. Pakistan has been operating Lockheed Martin aircraft since 1963, when it received C-130B airlifters.

    The Peace Drive I order is for 12 F-16Cs and six F-16Ds, all powered by the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 engine. The first aircraft – a two-seat F-16D model – will be delivered to the U.S. government (as agent for Pakistan in the Foreign Military Sales process) in December, with the remainder following in 2010.

    The F-16 is the choice of 25 nations. More than 4,400 aircraft have been delivered worldwide from assembly lines in five countries. The F-16 program has been characterized by unprecedented international cooperation among governments, air forces and aerospace industries. Major upgrades to all F-16 versions are being incorporated to keep the fleet modern and fully supportable over the aircraft's long service life.

    Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global security company that employs about 140,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The corporation reported 2008 sales of $42.7 billion.
     
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    How different is PAF F-16 block 52 from F-16-IN MMRCA?

    What are the radar capabilities of this fighter plane? Is it AESA? Is it capable of engaging simultaneously with multiple targets like Su-30 MKI?
     
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    we will get to know the F-16 Pakistan has a lot better during the user trials in the MRCA,all the strengths and weaknesses and then of course it will be eliminated from the competition.
     
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    I think we know much about the pros and cons of the F16s from Israel. The F16IN is way ahead of the Block 52s, and yes, It will be Eliminated I too feel. But all this doesnt make the F16 any less lethal. Its a potent platform in the hands of a seasoned pilot.
     
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    This will be the last F-16'S made in this Texas plant, the gift by George Bush kept the plant open for the people in his home state, after the deliveries are made to Pakistan this Texas plant will no longer make the F-16's.
     
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    Oh man, don't sound like those e-morons of ..... Obiviously, we will have something to counter those newest F-16's, but it doesn't mean that we should go on counting our stength with our incoming assets. Those new F-16 has their own stength and we have ours, but it doesn't obiviate the overall threat posed by these new F-16 till our incoming upgrade and MRCA.
     
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    people are forgetting that those f-16 however potent are small in number and comapred to the indian induction of su30mki at this rate its more of a challenge for pakistan to keep up the pace than the IAF, the iaf is happy moving at its own pace

    now the most important part the f-16 new ones ,old ones however will not/cannot be used against any combat against india as the buttons are strictly under the US control ,they have the source codes and in case of a conflict the f-16 will glorify the hangers rather than intercept any of the migs and sukhois its a known fact and even the PAF and pakistanis know that the f-16 are just for show and to be used under peaceful conditions and antiterror operations< if that ever existed>they are happy to provide the f-16 to pakistan because they dont want china to take over the pakistani markets competely
    its a business master plan by the US nothing more paf can celebrate how much they want of their f-16s but deep down they know its useless in combat , remember the event after 26/11 when pakistani jets were seen flying over their major cities they were the f-7s never was a f-16 seen anywhere in the vicinity so BVR, no BVR , there is no issue F-16 are hourglass models for the PAF
     
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    It may or may not be true that the newer F-16s can not be used against the IAF. All I know is, these aircrafts can not be kept on the same airbase where Chinese aircrafts are also kept. In addition to that, the US officials will inspect these aircrafts plus all the goodies (pods, AAM, AGM etc) from time to time to make sure that the technology is not transferred to China. Now whether the source codes of the flying control software can render these aircrafts useless against the IAF, theoretically it is possible. However, PAF would buy (yes these birds are bought not obtained through aid or whatever) aircrafts that can not be operated against the IAF is rather hard to swallow. If it was to keep the Chinese from taking over the Pakistani market, than it surely is a very bad business move. Providing merchandise (F-16s) with strings attach to them will only strengthen the cooperation between China and Pakistan.

    As far as no sightings of the F-16s during the post 26/11 is concerned. Those were regular CAP missions flown by the PAFs ‘gun fodder’, the F-7s. It does not mean the F-16s were not ready on the tarmacs with their pilots buckled up to fly at moments notice. PAF has found it the hard way during the Kargil conflict that using the F-16s for the regular CAPs was way too expensive and in fact a recipe of grounding the F-16s due to the sacristy of the expensive spares. In addition to that, the F-16s would more likely be assigned around the Capital, the Dams, and the nuclear installations rather than over Lahore or Sailkot at least initially. Once the war breaks out, than the priorities would change according to the situation.
     

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