Lockheed Martin to pitch F-35 for our Indigenous aircraft carrier

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  1. Parthy

    Parthy Air Warrior Senior Member

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    Lockheed Martin to display F-35 joint strike fighter at Aero India 2011

    The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the latest fighter plane from Lockheed Martin which is designed to become the mainstay of the U.S. as well several allies air force and navy, is likely to be displayed at the Aero India 2011 show in Bangalore.


    Lockheed Martin is pitching the aircraft’s B or C versions for India’s potential tender for carrier-based fighters to replace the Sea Harrier and equip the indigenous aircraft carrier currently under construction at the Cochin Shipyard and scheduled to be launched in 2014.

    Orville Prins, Lockeed Martin’s Vice President, Business Development for India said in New Delhi that the F-35 is the next generation fighter to suit multiple roles for the U.S. and its allies. Lockheed Martin is seeking U.S. government approvals to offer the aircraft to India. “We are trying to bring the F35 to the Aero India show so that Indian Navy can have a feel of the aircraft.

    We don’t know yet if the F35 will take part in the flying displays”.

    India had floated a request for information (RFI) earlier this year to seek a carrier based fighter plane.

    The RFI will be followed by an RFP as soon as the precise requirements are finalized, which could be in mid-2011. Thereafter the acquisition process will begin.

    India has already selected the Russian MiG 29K fighters for the Admiral Gorshkov and the reason for going in for an international competition for the indigenous aircraft carriers was that the Indian Navy was looking to replace the entire Sea Harrier fleet besides have a fighter which was capable of take off and landing on the relatively small deck of the indigenous carriers.

    The thinking in the Navy was not in favour of a vertical take off and landing plane like the Sea Harrier but rather a catapult- launched aircraft due to problems with maintenance, high fuel consumption during take off and landing and consequently limited fuel for operational use.

    http://www.defenseworld.net/go/defe...lay F-35 joint strike fighter Aero India 2011
     
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  3. warriorextreme

    warriorextreme Senior Member Senior Member

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    it will be good option for our indigenous AC
     
  4. Parthy

    Parthy Air Warrior Senior Member

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    Normally vertical take off consumes more fuel which is not always an cost efficient... Even in Viraat pilots don't try vertical take off very frequently...

    Nice video on vertical take off

     
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    Relative small decks of the IAC? Its going to be pretty large if it can accommodate the MiGs. No breaking news in this one though. The F-35s offer was going to be on the cards for the carriers. I think this is being discussed in the N-MRCA thread.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Nice vertical landing into the water...

     
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  7. captonjohn

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    I agree, vertical takeoff technology has to be developed more on next generation aircrafts to become fuel efficient while vertical landing and takeoff. At present India don't need much vertical takeoff aircrafts which consumes more fuel.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    The show is all good but if LM is not even ready to allow BAE, its biggest and closest partner to have access to JSF tech, how will it let us handle? One CISMOA and one LSA has created so much trouble that too for transport aircraft---- do you guys seriously think that any of our 3 branches would risk their necks with something as hyper-sensitive as F-35s especially when we have 2 stealth platforms coming already into the country by next decade?
     
  9. SHASH2K2

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    I agree with you . Given the open and unanimous opposition to Cismoa and BECA I am sure that we are not going to sign it in a hurry. Either USA has to change its stance or we will shop anywhere else. No one can compromise when it comes to fighter planes.
     
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    White House wants F-35B axed, halt V-22 purchase


    The presidential commission charged with coming up with ways to slash the federal deficit looks likely to recommend $100 billion in cuts to the Pentagon budget.

    Slash the Air Force and Navy’s F-35 buy by half and buy F-16s and F/A-18s instead. “This option would buy half as many as the 369 planned for the Air Force and the 311 for the Navy, purchasing instead the current generation fighter aircraft, the Air Force F-16 aircraft at one-third of the cost and the Navy F/A– 18E/F at two-thirds of the cost of the F-35,” the panel’s co-chairmen argue.

    Cancel the Marine’s F-35B. “In its recent defense review, the United Kingdom decided to cancel its buy of the Marine Corps version of the JSF. Further, the sophisticated capabilities of the JSF may be less relevant in current scenarios. Under Secretary of the Navy Robert Workman observed that greater use of guided missiles and mortar could end the forward operations that would be performed by the Marine Corps JSF because of vulnerability.93 Also, because the Marine Corps version of the JSF has been responsible for most of the technical, cost, and schedule problems, canceling it could accelerate delivery of the Air Force (F– 35A) and Navy (F-35C) versions,” they argue.

    http://dailyairforce.com/430/White-House-wants-F35B-axed-halt-V22-purchase.html
     
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    They would be extremely lucky if they could cancel the GE F136 Engine or the EFV. Which, is doubtful so forget about the F-35 or any of its Variants. Just not going to happen.
     
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    The JSF Partners should have only developed two models of the F-35. One being the STOVL F-35B and the F-35C. The latter could be Carrier or Landbased. Really, the F-35A is not needed.
     
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    I think we should opt for more MiG-29K even for IAC-1 as the Air Force version of HF-XX Tejas is nowhere near complete, let alone Naval Version (No new developments as of now). F-35 offers much sensitive technology which i doubt the extent to which US can share with country like India (Our Reservations regarding CISMOA are well-known). FGFA doesn't offer the Naval Version and is not arriving before 2020, while the AMCA's roll-out could be much debated seeing HF-XX Tejas' developments and it pace.
     
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    IN already ordered 45 MiG-29Ks, which is enough to equip both the Vikramaditya and IAC-1.

    If we do buy F-35s (unlikely) it will be for IAC-2 only.
     
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    why buy F-35s when we have option of mig-29k ?
     
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    They realize this now!? So late into the programme and spending billions on the type already? Where is the viability audit department? Or is it that they don't have one. Seriously, this over-spending off resources on matters that could do without it is the reason why most western countries are now in an economic jeopardy. F-35 could have taken its time as US can easily upgrade F-16 variants for quite sometime and continue development work normally on JSF. But their hurried decisions have cost the JSF consortium so much money already. F-35B has such a limited range and payload due to its STOL capability that compared to the A and C, it really looks silly that why did LM even approve of this version in first place when it could simply use the Naval C variant for VTOL.
     
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    If, India does purchase F-35's. Clearly, they would also operate from the ex-Gorshkov and IAC-1 in addition to the forthing coming IAC-2.
     
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    The F-35B is not limted in range. As a matter of fact it has better range than the Hornet that the USN/USMC currently operate. Nonetheless, the F-35B is not going to be canceled. So, any such discussion along those lines is really a moot point.
     
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    It's not likely that the Mig-29K will do well against future threats just down the road in the next decade or two.
     
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    Are F-35s able to takeoff from STOBAR carriers?
     
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    They are built to operate from such carriers. QE is STOBAR carrier...that is why the insistence on the F-35B to be completed soon.
     

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