LOC, LAC & IB skirmishs

[tharun]

China where there is little fear of collateral damage.
At present, the artillery has about 760 130mm M-46 field guns in 36 regiments (battalion-equivalent) and plans to have 60 regiments equipped by 2000. There are 410 Bofors 155mm FH-77B howitzers for general support and counter fire. In the plains, all regiments equipped with the 105mm Indian Field Gun are earmarked to convert to the M-46. The 105mm Light Field Gun regiments in the mountains will remain in place until 2010. A regiment each of 7.2in and 5.5in field guns (for general support), and the 105mm Abbot self-propelled howitzers, are expected to be phased-out before next year.

760 guns in 36 regiments mean 21 guns per regiment.
2000 guns in 60 regiments means 33 guns per regiment..i'm confused with the numbers
How many different caliber guns are there in our arsenal and how many regiments?
And how many in future in terms of gun numbers and regiments?

 

[tharun]

The single 160mm M58 Tampella heavy mortar regiments is likely to be phased out later this year. The 120mm AM-50 Thomson Brandt smoothbore mortars, which are effective to a range of 9,000m with PEPA/LP extended range ammunition, will stay in service.

For the first time i have heard of 160mm mortar.Why are we retiring that gun?

 

[Poseidon]

Since this thread is also about LoC, some might remember the 02-03 Jan 2013 incident when Pakistan announced that one of it's soldier was killed in an Indian attack in LoC.
The reality was that eight Pakistani soldiers were killed in that Indian raid which was retaliation for a Pakistani attack in November which killed three Indian soldiers.
Pakistan covered up the deaths of remaining 7 soldiers by making up a fake incident in which she claimed 7 Pakistani soldiers were kidnapped by militants from the town of Jand in Punjab, when in fact no militant groups ever claimed any responsibility or knowledge of the incident and absolutely nothing was heard of about the 7 soldiers since.

@Bornubus

 

[Avenger01]

What are the chances of the standoff with China now escalating to a military conflict now? Have Indian and Chinese troops mobilized?

 

[aliyah]

0% chances of army to army escalating....... 100% chances of media n internet war escalating

 

[LETHALFORCE]

The time has come to signal Nuclear posture changed to more alert levels.

If I may use this thread its time to discuss targeting main Chinese cities, manufacturing hubs, electricity grids, dams and other strategic and military installation.

@bennedose can you please post your videos that you have made to locate Chinese military installation located at LAC and IB with China.

A usual propaganda is thrown that Chinese won't lose anything in a nuclear attack. When Americans gave glimpse of their nuclear attack blue print the troll face Chinese General pissed in his pants.

Chinese will lose every thing if their main cities will be knocked down let alone targeting military installation/HQ.

Its been assured umpteen times that yield in not a problem as far as Indian nuclear capabilities are concern. Furthermore there is great ambiguity in the numbers of nuclear arsenal we have. The quantity of fissile material we have @LETHALFORCE (Massala) the numbers seems to be around 300-400.

Its time to shut Chinaman & its warning rhetoric. Han only learns when you pull your punch out; on street or at border.

The fissile material we have could easily make 400 -2000 warheads depending on yield . If we use our heavy water for neutron bombs that's thousands more and if we have signed agreements with USA and Japan in nuclear deals where we can probably get more fissile material or uranium? Also if any finalized agreement is made and we can be under US. Nuclear umbrella (not needed) then China is history (either way)
The main targets will be the Chinese eastern seaboard where their economy is concentrated. Civilians don't need to be targettted ( unlike Chinese aiming missiles at Delhi from tibet)but destroying all the ports maybe enough Too many that are underestimating India's nuclear capability. Remember no nation has a nuclear triad or nuclear submarines without have plenty of fissile material and miniaturization of warheads.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadesh...d-build-their-own-new-silk-road/#263884234982

India And Japan Join Forces To Counter China And Build Their Own New Silk Road

 

[LETHALFORCE]

More boasts from the garbage Indian media

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...om-donglang/story-PEkODjf0k6QNKuwTq9m4QK.html

PLA expert says China could eject Indian troops from Donglang

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Hhttp://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/china-ajit-doval-yang-jiechi-pla-brics-nsa-doklam-jammu-kashmir/1/1012964.html

Chinese Army strategist warns of Jammu and Kashmir intervention after Doklam

 

[Jay99]

China's Terracota Warriors...Show of fake strength

 

[Avenger01]

As per this report there have been multiple incursions with the latest one on July 30? How should this be viewed?

http://www.news18.com/news/india/wa...rea-of-uttarakhand-since-july-24-1478633.html

 

[IndianHawk]

As per this report there have been multiple incursions with the latest one on July 30? How should this be viewed?

http://www.news18.com/news/india/wa...rea-of-uttarakhand-since-july-24-1478633.html

Don't read too much.
This just might be Indian psy-ops to further create a fissure among xi the Pooh and the pla.

Just the news that pla moved without xi ordering would send xi into tizzy fits.

A war like situation just before party gathering makes xi weak. India might be playing on this . Hence report is leaked otherwise it could have been avoided.

 

[TheHurtLocker]

As per this report there have been multiple incursions with the latest one on July 30? How should this be viewed?

From the last line of the article:

The Indian Army on its part has denied any "intrusion" saying "transgressions happen in the area due to differing perceptions of LAC.

TV18 playing the chutiya here and sensationalising.

 

[Flame Thrower]

As per this report there have been multiple incursions with the latest one on July 30? How should this be viewed?

http://www.news18.com/news/india/wa...rea-of-uttarakhand-since-july-24-1478633.html

Best thing to do is ignore them after taking necessary action(i.e, after kicking them out)

These are pressure tactics.

Giving much hype to these will only favor China. World knows that we stood up to China. Let the status be in that way.

If we have any prior Intel, suppress this kind of intrusions. Making fuss after the intrusions will only favor China (I don't think any media is making fuss, that is a good sign).

China is trying these incursions to put India on back foot. Till a month ago, World thought twice to cross the path with China. CCP wants to keep it that way. China knows that it has to back off from Dhoklam one day or other; It just needs to save face while doing so. Pressure India to mutual de-escalate at Dhoklam and leave its media to paint that India backed off in the face of Unbeatable PLAGF.

But the problem is India doesn't seem to flinch, on contrary day by day urge to defeat PLAGF is increasing. Only from last week, I've seen articles supporting for Skimmers with China. Till now, I've seen 4 of'em.

Surprisingly Pak media is not making any stupid comments like, if there is Indo China war(Pak doesn't understand the meaning of skimmers) PA should join the fight and capture Kashmir.

 

[Akshay Fenix]

Krishna was commissioned into the Rajputana Rifles in 1980 and in a career spanning over 37 years, he has a distinct service profile, covering all military theatres of India ranging from counter-insurgency/anti-terrorism operations both in Eastern and Northern Commands, commanding troops in high altitude areas of Ladakh & Sikkim to mechanized operations in the deserts of Rajasthan and the plains of Punjab. Prior to assuming command at Jaipur, the General officer was commanding the largest Corps of the Indian Army in the North East, bordering three countries.

 

[Bornubus]

@Screambowl

What did i tell you yesterday


And @Kunal Biswas thanks for removing that post.

 

[Bornubus]

Since this thread is also about LoC, some might remember the 02-03 Jan 2013 incident when Pakistan announced that one of it's soldier was killed in an Indian attack in LoC.
The reality was that eight Pakistani soldiers were killed in that Indian raid which was retaliation for a Pakistani attack in November which killed three Indian soldiers.
Pakistan covered up the deaths of remaining 7 soldiers by making up a fake incident in which she claimed 7 Pakistani soldiers were kidnapped by militants from the town of Jand in Punjab, when in fact no militant groups ever claimed any responsibility or knowledge of the incident and absolutely nothing was heard of about the 7 soldiers since.

@Bornubus

@hammer head

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[Filtercoffee]

Now chinkies and piggies are having official joint patrols in POK. @Bornubus[/USER@]hammer head

 

[Hari Sud]

It is very difficult for a dictator to turn around and retreat. If he does, his political career is over. That is the situation Chinese president in. He initially thought that straightening up India for being uncooperative in OROB project was easy. Well he met a will of iron and wrist of steel at Dokolam. Worst he unleashed a psychological warfare on India to scare Indian public opinion. His diplomats in Delhi gave him a bad advice. The Global Times threats were empty and had no substance. Even a limited military shoot out would have been to China's disadvantage. Hence where does he stands:

1. He received warmly Ajit Doval in Peking, indicating change in position at the highest level

2. Chinese military probably advised him that that India military advantage is greater than initial thought about.

3. Pakistan a friend and counterweight against India has political turmoil of its own concurrently.

4. America is favouring India and has already despatched naval ships abwarning to Pakistani generals tomstay put.

All disadvantages were on China side, hence starting a war even a limited one was inadvisable.

So how is Chinese military going to back out of this dilemma. Well! very slowly. First the psychological warfare organ, the Global Times will call off its campaign. Second the approach of winter would be eagerly awaited so that the armies go back home. Third, that huge campaign to enroll member states on this funny but highly expansive OROB will be reduced as a few countries which unable to determine whether it is a Chinese colonization scheme or just a road reach a conclusion. Fourth, India will ask for trade balance in return for greater imports. In return to greater trade Chinese will minimize friction atnthe LAC.

 

[Bornubus]

Our Flag does not fly because the wind moves it...
It flies with the last breath of each soldier who died protecting it.

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