Discussion in 'Politics & Society' started by ashdoc, Jul 24, 2015.
What is wrong with all Indian parties?
They want people to drink hooch and die in mass numbers. I understand that govt. should not promote liquor but a blanket ban only gives rise to criminals and illegal activities.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ...... Now more MH people in Goa
this may affact the electoral prospects of the government and people may elect congress next time .
Not related to the topic. When are you reviewing Sallu's "BB"?
this week i may see MASAAN---it has been widely praised by critics .
later BB---it will be in theatres for weeks since it is a superhit .
as consolation for you i will write the start of my BB review here---
'' normally i do my best to avoid salman khan films . to me he is the darling of those people to whom i dont belong---the lower classes of india . every time a salman film is released they come to the theatre from their shanties and hovels to pay homage to their superstar . i on the other hand scoff at his antics---both on screen and off screen . worse , the fact that his films are such successes at the box office puts me in the dark mood of dispair as i think about the intellectual abilities of those who made it such a superhit---the majority of indians....
the only salman khan film i have ever reviewed is VEER , and i verdicted it as laughable . i also saw DABANGG , but considered it too low life to be even reviewed . so it was only with difficulty and after a great deal of prodding from friends that i watched BAJRANGI BHAIJAAN....''
thats really a nice idea....... presently mh puts 300% tax on liquor...... so a ban meens just like Gujarat no tax,cheap liquor and availability near about everywhere any pan shop etc
just feel lil bad for disc crowd coz there wont be any liquor they have to manage only with cocaine n lsd
stifling the congress funding in the state. good good!
some highlights from the news:
when this is the state on liquor-sale being legal, then what worse could it get if banned?! or was the officer killed trying to curb the smuggling/sale of adulterated liquor?
so he understands what the ramifications of such a decision could be, unlike what the desi dhakkans in the comments-section are crying.
that would be monumental if done (the rudaali of the bleeding hearts notwithstanding)!
a chooziya #AadarshLiberal! so hundreds have died and several more suffering from malnourishment after beef-ban, and now the figures will shoot up when poor daarubaaz will start falling down due to lack of regular nourishment. tch..tch..for this we had elected BJP?! Fadnavis is hitler. down with the CM! CM go back; moral police go back!
Quality of liquor will go down if they ban it.
And 'liquor ban' is a nice 'time wasting exercise' for police.
fadanvis himself is an inexperienced dhakkan and running state like chota manmohan . results will be seen in 16-17 in local body elections
and his manmohan'ish' dhakkangiri being?! everyone holds some post for the 'first' time in their lives. was he given his CM-chair without any 'experience' in the field?!
Liquor ban never works.Ask USA or our very own gujarat.Instead govt should try to educate more people about ill effects of alcohol and how it breaks apart the families.This will only lead to black marketing and sell of cheap 'zehrili sharaab'.
even the CM knows that. so either this ban won't see the light of the day (provided the studies from the 3 districts of MS where liquor is banned are not satisfactory), or would come out in some other form/way.
and educating and all such schemes haven't been much successful its apparent. smuggling and adulterated liquor business are still thriving. so the least that could be done is to introduce severe measures against this death-business and rope in govt. officials involved in it too (am all for capital punishment, extended to other adulteration-rackets too!), as well as may be collaborate with organisations like 'alcoholics anonymous' for launching major awareness campaigns.
Agree with this post,esp the last part.Govt needs to severely deal with the alcohol mafia and put strict regulations on its manufacturing and sell.For instance here in Raj. the official time of closing is 8pm but people can easily get alcohol till 12 am and in some places even whole night(and here I m not even talking about bars).
i have a firm belief in the power of the ruthless 'danda'. it should be an imperative weapon of chastisement in the armoury of a democracy. we are 'soft' in our internal matters themselves, then how can we expect to be tough regarding external affairs! in the hands of a dubious and pansy govt., this danda either rots or befalls on the gentry of the society. but when a govt. that has a projection/aura of strength and firmness (expected from a centre-right kind) about it, there shouldn't be any delay and excuse not to oil the danda well and use it aptly.
a friend from Indore had narrated to me some years back about the 'nightlife' there. the police-deptt. there had got a new commissioner, who was known to be a no-nonsense kind of strict fellow. the areas esp. around the railway and bus stations there used to remain bustling with activity till late hours, often the meeting and activity-spots for/of the nefarious. this commissioner issued a directive of closing down shutters and khomchas by 12 night. initially people mocked and resisted, and then came the danda flying in! within some weeks, the markets got the disciplinary sense and started duly following the directive. even a place like Rajwada which was known to remain open the whole night, shopkeepers and hawkers there started closing their stalls and shops between 9-12 like good boys. i don't know what's the current situation.
then we have the example of ex-powerlifter and IPS officer late Ashok Kamte, the work he did in Solapur. i was told by a native of the distt. that people of his village and the city kept his framed photos at their homes, and the whole place had wept after his demise.
such people and such sarkaari-will is rare these days i understand, but an entity can still be so/hold & exercise a solid (good)will.
Lol true.Here the cops have 'vasooli' sent to them every week by "theka' owners hence giving them free hand to illegally sell as much as they can.One good thing govt did here is to ban all liquor shops on national highways as most truckwalas purchase alcohol from there leading to innumerable road accidents.But the local samaj ke thekedars are protesting this decision citing reasons that this will have lead to their children getting more exposed to it(since most shops are now in main markets) ,lol as if their sanskari children care.Those who want to drink will have it no matter the location of shop.
Those in favour of liquer ban in Maha mat take a look in AP ban. It did not work. Only people were forced to drink adulterated or low quality liquor. Some police and excise people incl. some politicos and ministers, even may be the Fadnavus guy himself may get richer, but no benefit will reach to the common people. The villages in Gujarat are the same, at least villages with birder with other states. The villagers get drunk anyway, either drinking desi or smuggled liquor, only they have to pay a lot more and they pay the money anyway.
Also this is a kind of moral policing and I am thoroughly against. The Maha govt needs to do something positive before starting to imposing bans. This Gujju concept of dryness is in itself offensive to me even when I myself dont drink except on occassions. It is highly immoral for any particular section to impose their will on the majority of people. Prople should be allowed to choose their own poison. And these morons shiuld have banned tobacco, but see them shivering.
BJP seems to be running on something other than practical sense these days.
in a real (and not 'ideal') world, such a (liquor) ban may be possible, but not in its desired effect. Fadnavis had stated that he knows what happened in AP; so either this will die down or may be a regulation would be devised........liquor still sells (albeit the 'cheap' variety) in places with bans, and even without a ban most drunkards in such places don't have the kind of money to splurge on finer poisons.
but if a kind of ban can make congress crawl than limp, then...
anything for a congress-mukt Bhaarat!
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P.S. - villagers almost anywhere have their own 'indigenous' liquor to drown into, whether ban/sell the usual stuff or not. Rajasthan, Gujarat, Maharashtra, etc. desi if they have money, traditional preparations otherwise.
@VIP - what's been the situation like in Gujarat?
Sir, what is congress-mukt Bharat actually....?
What I understand is this.........(and correct me if I am wrong).......
It was pre-planned by congress that congress will destroy itself and make room for AAP.
Kejriwal can get chance to emerge as yugpurush and he will bring his tutti frutti socialist revolution in India.
So eventually congress was going out anyway.
It was a chance and got new name as 'congress mukt Bharat'.
Check this video @ 10:10............................
This tree is famous for indigenous liquor in Gujarat ----> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhuca_longifolia
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