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@PSYOP

I am not showing you stuff which happened in last few months due to security reasons @hammer head otherwise you would've shove your head in the behind of that Black dog ISPR DG Asif Gafoor.


But suffice to say that your claim of killing Indian troops in recent IED ambush is as true as this Muhajir Negro pitch black Paki claiming to be a central Asian Barlas Turk having noble blood of Mirzas





 

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@PSYOP

I am not showing you stuff which happened in last few months due to security reasons @hammer head otherwise you would've shove your head in the behind of that Black dog ISPR DG Asif Gafoor.

Paki troll or not, I think we should refrain from insulting people based on skin color, as it also applies to dark skinned people of our own country. As a south Indian with darker complexion, I don't know what to make of these comments.
@PSYOP

I am not showing you stuff which happened in last few months due to security reasons @hammer head otherwise you would've shove your head in the behind of that Black dog ISPR DG Asif Gafoor.


But suffice to say that your claim of killing Indian troops in recent IED ambush is as true as this Muhajir Negro pitch black Paki claiming to be a central Asian Barlas Turk having noble blood of Mirzas






But suffice to say that your claim of killing Indian troops in recent IED ambush is as true as this Muhajir Negro pitch black Paki claiming to be a central Asian Barlas Turk having noble blood of Mirzas





Paki troll or not, I think we should refrain from using racial slurs regarding skin color, as it easily applies to dark skinned people of our own country. As a South Indian with darker complexion, I don't know what to make of it when DFI members use words such as "black Negro dog" to describe someone with darker skin.
 

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Paki troll or not, I think we should refrain from using racial slurs regarding skin color, as it easily applies to dark skinned people of our own country. As a South Indian with darker complexion, I don't know what to make of it when DFI members use words such as "black Negro dog" to describe someone with darker skin.
No it does not apply to any dark skinned Indian or any other non Pakistani. Anyway he is simply playing on Pakis insecurities & false ego.
Anyway I propose DFIians to replace word Pakistan with Paikhanaistan in their usage. The latter represents them better. Anyway its OT
 

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What was Manish tiwari of congress doing on panel. Didn't US get hold of any spokesman from Ruling NDA?
 

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Paki troll or not, I think we should refrain from using racial slurs regarding skin color, as it easily applies to dark skinned people of our own country. As a South Indian with darker complexion, I don't know what to make of it when DFI members use words such as "black Negro dog" to describe someone with darker skin.
That's what Porks call Indians, he is using their words against them like Anant said.
 

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  • Army deploys 'through the wall' radars in Kashmir
http://www.ptinews.com/news/8778500_Army-deploys--through-the-wall--radars-in-Kashmir.html

Anantnag (Jammu and Kashmir), Jun 8 (PTI) Aiming to detect terrorists who might be hiding in wall cavities or false ceilings, the Indian Army will now use 'through the wall' radar imaging during counter-insurgency operations in Kashmir Valley.

A few such radar systems have already been imported by the Army, official sources said, explaining that the technology would help in more precise - and effective -- anti-militancy operations. It would enable forces to get the pinpointed location of terrorists hiding inside homes in congested areas and also avoid civilian casualties.

On more than one occasion, the Army and the Special Operations Group of Jammu and Kashmir Police have had to return without engaging with militants despite specific intelligence inputs. Local informers later conveyed that the terrorists were hiding in a specially created false ceiling or an underground cavity in the same house that had been raided, said a senior official involved in the anti-militancy drive.

This happened on July 8 last year as well when security forces gunned down Burhan Wani, poster-boy of the banned terror group Hizbul Mujahideen. The first time they tried to get him, they couldn't locate any terrorist in the house in a village in Kokernag in south Kashmir despite precise intelligence tip-offs.

The commanding officer and his men, it is learnt, entered the house twice but were unable to find any terrorists who were hiding in a false ceiling. During the third round of searches, the hiding militants gave themselves away when they fired at the Army men. It was only after that that three men, including Wani, were killed, leading to unrest in the entire Valley.

Often, troops face hostile crowds when they are unable to locate a terrorist at a house notified by human intelligence as well as technically generated intelligence.

Given the many hits and misses, need was felt for 'through-the-wall' radars which would help troops function better during counter-insurgency operations especially in densely populated areas, sources said.

The radar is based on short electromagnetic waves generated by the 'signatures' of people hidden behind the wall or other concrete barriers.

It is useful for detecting small changes in electromagnetic waves induced by humans; this includes even micro-movements caused by breathing, an official explained.

The images on the radar will give army an upper hand in determining the position of hiding terrorists and their movements on real-time basis, he said.

Though the Army has imported only a few such radars, officials are hopeful that the number would go up once their utility was put to test.

Interestingly, the Electronics and Radar Development Establishment (LRDE), a wing of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has been making attempts to build the radar indigenously. However, the product has not moved to the trial stage yet.

Named Divyachakshu (divine eye), the radar is designed to scan 25-30 cm wall. The project was started after 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks when commandos of the elite NSG unit were injured while clearing the Taj Mahal hotel.
When will they be handed to our security forces in Kashmir?

Can something like portable x-ray machine be also used? It can give the skeleton image or metal weapons images as well of person hidden. Metal detectors can be modified and used to scan metal objects behind walls.
 

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They use Italian OTO Melara 105 mm Mod 56, They have range of 10 kms and their is another arty of US origin whose range is 11kms, A Chinese gun of puny 85mm has 15kms of range, Accuracy is horrible ..

These are usually used in direct fire against incoming assault or bringing down avalanches at glacier, Earlier they use these against BSF who were using 81mm mortar ..

First picture is from Basal-Chu, opposite of Kargil sector, The other is from siachen glacier

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BSF recently used Indian guns to great effect, suppressing every other mortar and light arty of enemy in that valley ..

I can't understand. can you please explain.
 

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They use Italian OTO Melara 105 mm Mod 56, They have range of 10 kms and their is another arty of US origin whose range is 11kms, A Chinese gun of puny 85mm has 15kms of range, Accuracy is horrible ..

These are usually used in direct fire against on coming assault or bringing down avalanches at glacier, Earlier they use these against BSF who were using 81mm mortar ..

First picture is from Basal-Chu, opposite of Kargil sector, The other is from siachen glacier

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BSF recently used Indian guns to great effect, suppressing every other mortar and light arty of enemy in that valley ..
Their guns are looking short and highly portable..but our's are long and bulky.
105mm had a range of 25km right?
 

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Those pics look to be from around Kargil War. We have been hearing so much about Napakis investing much in upgrading tube artillery and being gifted quite a bit by US under "war on terror" such as M109 SPH.

Do they still operate these short range guns only?
 

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IFG has a maximum range of 24kms with Bleed base shells, With regular round these can strike 17kms deep ..

PA Italian guns and IFG portability is almost same, Both can be taken in parts via light helicopter & mules ..

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During Kargil war they used 155mm towed guns, Cargo shells against our positions but was not very successful once we developed tactics to avoid them and counter them in our own way ..

Those SPH are dedicated with their mech units, Light 105mm of PA is considered as a mountain arty due to its high portability ..

Their guns are looking short and highly portable..but our's are long and bulky.
105mm had a range of 25km right?
@Kunal Biswas

Those pics look to be from around Kargil War. We have been hearing so much about Napakis investing much in upgrading tube artillery and being gifted quite a bit by US under "war on terror" such as M109 SPH.

Do they still operate these short range guns only?
 

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Its really surprising to notice something really vintage ( 1941 ) used during 1999 and perhaps still being deployed at LOC, Never knew Pakistani arty was so weak that they had to deploy this, Not sure where they got ammunition from, That shell which is going into that breach is dangerous to its crew only ..



The arty is British 140mm medium gun, With a range of just 16kms with a crew of 10 ..

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These British 5.5 inch guns were used to be backbone of Indian Army and seen 65 and 71 war, After arrival of 105mm IFG these were phased out and kept for static display or Museum pieces ..
 
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