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su33 very nice navel fighter but currently Russia phasing out heir su33 in favor to mig29k , and also u can mass produce a product by reversing it but it wont assure it will be same performance and quality as original if it have it have same vulnerability of the original one , so its better to relay on ur own designs and innovations
 

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You're shameless man. Did you even check if that's CV16 or are u being deliberately deceptive?

1. That's Admiral Kuznetsov., whose engines are famously faulty and famously prone to billowing massive amounts of black exhaust:



2. That pic of Kuznetsov cloaked in exhaust shows it's distinctive cyndrical d/e band air and surface radar, which is absent on Liaoning:

Kuznetsov


Liaoning:


Try getting your facts straight once in a while before rushing to troll every Chinese thread
Dude, don't be so shameless in defending any fact.
Russian ACC got such issues on its last journey to Mediterranean sea.
But it's not the same image as you are predicting.

The mast of the acc in my pic is more similar to your so called Liaoning.

Don't be angry , you looks red hot with anger :biggrin2:

Keep calm:cool1:
 

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Hong Kong gov’t says it cannot regulate black smoke emitted by China’s Liaoning aircraft carrier

8 July 2017 10:58
Ellie Ng
3 min read

The Hong Kong government says it cannot regulate the emission of black smoke from China’s Liaoning aircraft carrier, despite public concerns over air pollution. :daru::daru:

The 305 metre-long Liaoning arrived in Hong Kong early Friday in a display of military might only days after a high-profile visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping. Concerns were raised after news outlets captured images of the carrier emitting black smoke.:daru::daru:

Black smoke billowing out of the Liaoning. Photo: TVB/Stand News.

The secondhand Soviet ship was built nearly 30 years ago and commissioned in 2012. Local media reported that the Liaoning uses heavy fuel oil, rather than nuclear power like carriers in other countries.

Albert Lai, engineer and convener of think tank The Professional Commons, said early-model carriers such as the Liaoning typically use heavy fuel oil, which causes high soot emissions. He said heavy fuel oil is a popular fuel among oceangoing vessels owing to its low price.

He said the Liaoning’s five-day visit to Hong Kong will emit the same level of pollutants as 500,000 cars. o_O The number is based on his estimation that a ship of a similar size typically produces the same level of pollutants in a year as 50 million cars.


The Liaoning. Photo: Hong Kong Police.

Currently, the Air Pollution Control (Ocean Going Vessels) (Fuel at Berth) Regulation requires all marine vessels use fuel with low sulphur at berth. However, the regulation does not cover military vessels.

The Environmental Protection Department told HKFP: “When we formulated the Regulation, we referenced the international practice that exempts warships or other vessels on military service.”


Photo: Apple Daily screenshot.

“The fuel used by the Liaoning at berth in Hong Kong is exempted from the Regulation.”

However, Lai told Post 852 that the department could still have suggested that the Liaoning switch its fuel, take measures to reduce pollution, or berth at a remote area in order to reduce the impact of air pollution on Hong Kong.


Photo: Carrie Lam, via Facebook.

Democratic Party lawmaker Ted Hui said the Chinese government should not be excused from damaging the environment. He asked the Environmental Protection Department to change the law so that no exemption would be given to military vessels.
:daru::daru::daru::daru::daru::daru::daru:

Source = https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/07/...oke-emitted-chinas-liaoning-aircraft-carrier/
My point still stands chief:

This is not CV16 Liaoning:


And this level of smoke is synonymous with any conventionally powered carrier, let alone a Steam Boiler powered aircraft carrier:


But I'm sure INS Vikramaditya doesn't produce smoke.


Despite that article, Hong kong'ers still camped out all night to get a ticket:



 

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Dude, don't be so shameless in defending any fact.
Russian ACC got such issues on its last journey to Mediterranean sea.
But it's not the same image as you are predicting.

The mast of the acc in my pic is more similar to your so called Liaoning.

Don't be angry , you looks red hot with anger :biggrin2:

Keep calm:cool1:

I'm not angry. Simply pointing out the falsehoods in your post. It's not like I'd expect a fanboy to acknowledge a mistake.

The picture you posted is Kuznetsov not Liaoning. Try some other BS.
 

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There's no sense of intellectual property rights in Confucius educated Chinese i understand tat. No use arguing with such brainwashed Chinese.(troll)
CTRL C+ CTRL V = Chinese logic of purchasing and cloning(stealing) them in mainland :bounce:.doesn't mean you own their's IP RIGHTS:eek1:

In india there's no confucius education hence no reverse engineering, no proud men in india. Only proud men (admirals) in China.

Don't worry about RFI it stop in few years, we're investing in aerospace industry. Which was neglected for many decades. Government was busy with administrative work and working towards welfare of people . Instead taking great leap forward ( famines and cultural revolution ) of building nuclear bombs,rockets and planes(Great Sparrow Campaign) resulting in millions of deaths.


I can give many examples of purchased and cloned military used by Chinese. I challenge you other wise.:balleballe:

Can u explain how Chinese indigenous designed and built j20 and j10 and l15.:bs:
if copying is that easy, India wont hesitate to do so, the thing India doesn't possess the industrial capability to make it happen.

India is unable to convert an old AC to an operational one, hence outsourced the job to Russians, was then taken for a ride and paid a fortune.

J15 is a Chinese revival of Russian design, because China has the ability to make it happen, not just because Chinese got the prototype.

for indians, even if being gifted a prototype, won't be able to make a flying J15.

the development of aviation industry needs continuous large amount of investment for decades, I doubt you gonna see indian aviation taking off that soon.
 

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I'm not angry. Simply pointing out the falsehoods in your post. It's not like I'd expect a fanboy to acknowledge a mistake.

The picture you posted is Kuznetsov not Liaoning. Try some other BS.
Dude, this pic was saved in by me in June 2016 when Liaoning was sailing in SCS. at that time, I tried to get the Reason for it than somebody said that its a smoke Shield.
Whereas Admiral Kuznetsov was also smoke a lot while sailing through English Channel in October'16.

You can visually identify you carrier by the mast , you will not find cylindrical shaped radar which are only found on Indian an Russia carrier.

Moreover, its your choice to swallow the truth without any external help.

I rest my all.

Good Day
 

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Dude, this pic was saved in by me in June 2016 when Liaoning was sailing in SCS. at that time, I tried to get the Reason for it than somebody said that its a smoke Shield.
Whereas Admiral Kuznetsov was also smoke a lot while sailing through English Channel in October'16.

You can visually identify you carrier by the mast , you will not find cylindrical shaped radar which are only found on Indian an Russia carrier.

Moreover, its your choice to swallow the truth without any external help.

I rest my all.

Good Day

nah, it is Russian.
you should get the fact straight.
 

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nah, it is Russian.
you should get the fact straight.
IMG_20170709_225536.jpg

This pic was downloaded by me on 17 June 2016.
But the incident occurred with Admiral Kuznetsov during October'16 while traveling through English Channel to Mediterranean sea.

This is now confusing.....
 

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Dude, this pic was saved in by me in June 2016 when Liaoning was sailing in SCS. at that time, I tried to get the Reason for it than somebody said that its a smoke Shield.
Whereas Admiral Kuznetsov was also smoke a lot while sailing through English Channel in October'16.

You can visually identify you carrier by the mast , you will not find cylindrical shaped radar which are only found on Indian an Russia carrier.

Moreover, its your choice to swallow the truth without any external help.

I rest my all.

Good Day
So instead of admitting you made a mistake you'd rather try to lie your way out of it? Typical of an internet troll.

Are you now claiming to have taken that picture yourself? No such picture was taken during Liaoning's cruise of the SCS last year mate. Liaoning didn't enter the South China Sea until December of 2016, NOT JUNE:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-defence-taiwan-idUSKBN14F061

WORLD NEWS | Mon Dec 26,2016 | 3:51pm EST
Chinese carrier enters South China Sea amid renewed tension


A general view shows navy soldiers standing on China's first aircraft carrier 'Liaoning' as it is berthed in a port in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning province, September 25, 2012. REUTERS/Stringer

By J.R. Wu | TAIPEI

A group of Chinese warships led by the country's sole aircraft carrier entered the top half of the South China Sea on Monday after passing south of Taiwan, the self-ruled island's Defence Ministry said of what China has termed a routine exercise.

The move comes amid renewed tension over Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, ineligible for state-to-state relations, following U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's telephone call with the island's president that upset Beijing.

The Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier has taken part in previous exercises, including some in the South China Sea, but China is years away from perfecting carrier operations similar to those the United States has practised for decades.

Taiwan's Defence Ministry said the carrier, accompanied by five vessels, passed southeast of the Pratas Islands, which are controlled by Taiwan, heading southwest.

The carrier group earlier passed 90 nautical miles south of Taiwan's southernmost point via the Bashi Channel, between Taiwan and the Philippines.

"Staying vigilant and flexible has always been the normal method of maintaining airspace security," said ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi, declining to say whether Taiwan fighter jets were scrambled or if submarines had been deployed.

Chen said the ministry was continuing to "monitor and grasp the situation."

Senior Taiwan opposition Nationalist lawmaker Johnny Chiang said the Liaoning exercise was China's signal to the United States that it has broken through the "first island chain," an area that includes Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan.

The U.S. State Department on Monday said its position has not changed since July, when it said it was continuing to monitor China's military modernization and that it expects nations conducting defence exercises to comply with the law. Representatives for the Pentagon declined to comment.

Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Trump, said the incoming team had no comment on China's move. Trump takes office on Jan. 20 but has already has drawn headlines over a series of statements on China and Taiwan.

In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said people should not read too much into what the carrier was up to, as its movements were within the law.

"Our Liaoning should enjoy in accordance with the law freedom of navigation and overflight as set by international law, and we hope all sides can respect this right of China's," she told a daily news briefing.

Influential state-run Chinese tabloid the Global Times said the exercise showed how the carrier was improving its combat capabilities and that it should now sail even further afield.

"The Chinese fleet will cruise to the Eastern Pacific sooner or later. When China's aircraft carrier fleet appears in offshore areas of the U.S. one day, it will trigger intense thinking about maritime rules," the newspaper said in an editorial.

China has been angered recently by U.S. naval patrols near islands that China claims in the South China Sea. This month, a Chinese navy ship seized a U.S. underwater drone in the South China Sea. China later returned it.

Japan said late on Sunday it had spotted six Chinese naval vessels including the Liaoning travelling through the passage between Miyako and Okinawa and into the Pacific.

Japan's top government spokesman said on Monday the voyage showed China's expanding military capability and Japan was closely monitoring it.

China's air force conducted long-range drills this month above the East and South China Seas that rattled Japan and Taiwan. China said those exercises were also routine.

Last December, the defence ministry confirmed China was building a second aircraft carrier but its launch date is unclear. The aircraft carrier programme is a state secret.

Beijing could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years, the Pentagon said in a report last year.

China claims most of the South China Sea through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Neighbours Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.


Any serious defense enthusiast can differentiate between Kuznetsov and Liaoning, and as I've noted ad nauseum, Liaoning does not field the cylindrical radar depicted in that picture. And if you'd done a simple google search, you'd find multiple articles on the Kuznetsov's exhaust problem, many of them featuring that same picture:

http://dailyscimitar.com/russian-ca...ts-exterminated-by-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

https://veneremurcernui.wordpress.c...ne-friday-the-worlds-worst-carrier-kuznetsov/

Late n’ Rare Flightline Friday: The World’s Worst Carrier, Kuznetsov October 24, 2016
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A lot of folks apparently got excited last week when, for the 7th time in its nearly 30 year history the broken down, way too small, horribly designed (and only) Russian carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov put to sea to ostensibly conduct combat operations off of Syria. If the carrier makes it to the Eastern Med – which is by no means certain, given its deplorable history – Kuznetsov will take party in combat operations for the first time with its tiny fixed wing fleet of 16 Su-33 aircraft.

But first she (or, as the Russians say, he) has to get there. And that’s been the problem in the past. Even when Kuznetsov made it to Eastern Med, she was generally in too poor condition to actually do anything remotely military. Her freshwater condensers constantly crap out, meaning they can’t run the turbines, meaning the ship has to be towed back to port. Why else do you think the Russians never let Kuznetsov put to sea without the world’s largest tug as escort? Does the US Navy do this, with their carriers? The Japanese? Italians? Spanish? Even the Brazilians? No, no they do not.

Kuznetsov was a product of two disastrous characteristics: inexperienced, frankly incompetent design, and late-Soviet-era build standards. Coupled together, and you have one of the most poorly designed and built ships ever to slide down the ways. Her horrific design and shoddy workmanship are legendary. The phased array antennas on the island? – they’re concrete ballast, as the real radar was never made functional. The plumbing is worthlessly rusted out in half or more of the ship. Basically half of the ship is unlivable. The ship is only marginally large enough to handle the huge Su-33 tactical aircraft, and can only carry a handful of them, really barely enough to protect the carrier (if that), let alone project power anywhere. And her power plant…….a large steam unit……….has always been her most pronounced weak point.

It appears to have gotten even worse. While passing through the English Channel, Kuznetsov belched forth such hideous, thick plumes of smoke from her oil fired engines that I seriously doubt she could conduct flight operations under such conditions. See, carriers, when they do flight ops, always turn into the wind. Pilots trying to land on Kuznetsov would be rendered almost totally blind by these clouds of incredibly dense smoke emanating from the ship and flowing straight into their approach path to land. And this was while cruising at a leisurely 7-8 knots, not the 25+ generally required for flight operations. I would wager she can’t come close to that speed with engines in such dire shape*. If she can, her pilots will probably be splattered all over the round down trying to land.


Wow. They are either using incredibly dirty, unrefined oil, or those engines have unbelievable problems. Likely a bit of both.

This is not made up stuff. How to deal with carrier smokestack emissions prior to the advent of gas turbines and nukes was a huge issue. That’s one reason US carriers wound up with their islands so far back, which generally prevented the gasses from spreading so much they seriously affected visibility. On earlier Essex class carriers, with islands roughly midship, this was much more of a problem. The Japanese, on their WWII carriers, actually vented the boiler gasses downward, below the level of the flight deck, to try to deal with this.

Of course, US and allied pilots go through the training hell of learning to make night traps using only mirror, ball, and the screams of the LSO. Those landings are dang near blind, so it was generally less of a problem for US naval aviators even when we still had oil-fired carriers (which, we don’t. The last were retired nearly 10 years ago).

So don’t get too worked up over Putin’s latest bluster. This one is much more show than go. That’s all any combat operations conducted from Kuznetsov will be, if there are any – show. And it will be another hellish cruise for her crew, which despises the ship to the extent they mutinied a short while back. This is a ship that has spent over 95% of her 30 year career tied up pierside or in drydock. She’s a floating disaster, and the Chinese were probably suckers to gain most of their carrier knowledge, and their currently only operational carrier, from the incompleted hulk of Kuznetsov’s sister, now finished and called Laioning by the Red Chinese. She has all the same engines and other design flaws of the original, and to date hasn’t put to sea very often at all, by Western standards.





I loved the jokes on Ace: the world’s first wood-, or possibly peat-, burning aircraft carrier. I don’t think Lexington put out that much smoke after taking multiple Jap torpedoes at Coral Sea.

*- In fact, Kuznetsov has apparently never come close to her design speed of 29 kts.


Just accept you made a mistake and move on. Your constant attempts to derail this thread with silly made up claims are growing tiresome.
 

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So instead of admitting you made a mistake you'd rather try to lie your way out of it? Typical of an internet troll.

Are you now claiming to have taken that picture yourself? No such picture was taken during Liaoning's cruise of the SCS last year mate. Liaoning didn't enter the South China Sea until December of 2016, NOT JUNE:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-defence-taiwan-idUSKBN14F061

WORLD NEWS | Mon Dec 26,2016 | 3:51pm EST
Chinese carrier enters South China Sea amid renewed tension


A general view shows navy soldiers standing on China's first aircraft carrier 'Liaoning' as it is berthed in a port in Dalian, northeast China's Liaoning province, September 25, 2012. REUTERS/Stringer

By J.R. Wu | TAIPEI

A group of Chinese warships led by the country's sole aircraft carrier entered the top half of the South China Sea on Monday after passing south of Taiwan, the self-ruled island's Defence Ministry said of what China has termed a routine exercise.

The move comes amid renewed tension over Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, ineligible for state-to-state relations, following U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's telephone call with the island's president that upset Beijing.

The Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier has taken part in previous exercises, including some in the South China Sea, but China is years away from perfecting carrier operations similar to those the United States has practised for decades.

Taiwan's Defence Ministry said the carrier, accompanied by five vessels, passed southeast of the Pratas Islands, which are controlled by Taiwan, heading southwest.

The carrier group earlier passed 90 nautical miles south of Taiwan's southernmost point via the Bashi Channel, between Taiwan and the Philippines.

"Staying vigilant and flexible has always been the normal method of maintaining airspace security," said ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi, declining to say whether Taiwan fighter jets were scrambled or if submarines had been deployed.

Chen said the ministry was continuing to "monitor and grasp the situation."

Senior Taiwan opposition Nationalist lawmaker Johnny Chiang said the Liaoning exercise was China's signal to the United States that it has broken through the "first island chain," an area that includes Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan.

The U.S. State Department on Monday said its position has not changed since July, when it said it was continuing to monitor China's military modernization and that it expects nations conducting defence exercises to comply with the law. Representatives for the Pentagon declined to comment.

Hope Hicks, a spokeswoman for Trump, said the incoming team had no comment on China's move. Trump takes office on Jan. 20 but has already has drawn headlines over a series of statements on China and Taiwan.

In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said people should not read too much into what the carrier was up to, as its movements were within the law.

"Our Liaoning should enjoy in accordance with the law freedom of navigation and overflight as set by international law, and we hope all sides can respect this right of China's," she told a daily news briefing.

Influential state-run Chinese tabloid the Global Times said the exercise showed how the carrier was improving its combat capabilities and that it should now sail even further afield.

"The Chinese fleet will cruise to the Eastern Pacific sooner or later. When China's aircraft carrier fleet appears in offshore areas of the U.S. one day, it will trigger intense thinking about maritime rules," the newspaper said in an editorial.

China has been angered recently by U.S. naval patrols near islands that China claims in the South China Sea. This month, a Chinese navy ship seized a U.S. underwater drone in the South China Sea. China later returned it.

Japan said late on Sunday it had spotted six Chinese naval vessels including the Liaoning travelling through the passage between Miyako and Okinawa and into the Pacific.

Japan's top government spokesman said on Monday the voyage showed China's expanding military capability and Japan was closely monitoring it.

China's air force conducted long-range drills this month above the East and South China Seas that rattled Japan and Taiwan. China said those exercises were also routine.

Last December, the defence ministry confirmed China was building a second aircraft carrier but its launch date is unclear. The aircraft carrier programme is a state secret.

Beijing could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years, the Pentagon said in a report last year.

China claims most of the South China Sea through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Neighbours Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.


Any serious defense enthusiast can differentiate between Kuznetsov and Liaoning, and as I've noted ad nauseum, Liaoning does not field the cylindrical radar depicted in that picture. And if you'd done a simple google search, you'd find multiple articles on the Kuznetsov's exhaust problem, many of them featuring that same picture:

http://dailyscimitar.com/russian-ca...ts-exterminated-by-carbon-monoxide-poisoning/

https://veneremurcernui.wordpress.c...ne-friday-the-worlds-worst-carrier-kuznetsov/

Late n’ Rare Flightline Friday: The World’s Worst Carrier, Kuznetsov October 24, 2016
Posted by Tantumblogo in Admin, asshatery, disaster, Flightline Friday, foolishness, fun, non squitur, pr stunts, silliness, Society, technology.
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A lot of folks apparently got excited last week when, for the 7th time in its nearly 30 year history the broken down, way too small, horribly designed (and only) Russian carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov put to sea to ostensibly conduct combat operations off of Syria. If the carrier makes it to the Eastern Med – which is by no means certain, given its deplorable history – Kuznetsov will take party in combat operations for the first time with its tiny fixed wing fleet of 16 Su-33 aircraft.

But first she (or, as the Russians say, he) has to get there. And that’s been the problem in the past. Even when Kuznetsov made it to Eastern Med, she was generally in too poor condition to actually do anything remotely military. Her freshwater condensers constantly crap out, meaning they can’t run the turbines, meaning the ship has to be towed back to port. Why else do you think the Russians never let Kuznetsov put to sea without the world’s largest tug as escort? Does the US Navy do this, with their carriers? The Japanese? Italians? Spanish? Even the Brazilians? No, no they do not.

Kuznetsov was a product of two disastrous characteristics: inexperienced, frankly incompetent design, and late-Soviet-era build standards. Coupled together, and you have one of the most poorly designed and built ships ever to slide down the ways. Her horrific design and shoddy workmanship are legendary. The phased array antennas on the island? – they’re concrete ballast, as the real radar was never made functional. The plumbing is worthlessly rusted out in half or more of the ship. Basically half of the ship is unlivable. The ship is only marginally large enough to handle the huge Su-33 tactical aircraft, and can only carry a handful of them, really barely enough to protect the carrier (if that), let alone project power anywhere. And her power plant…….a large steam unit……….has always been her most pronounced weak point.

It appears to have gotten even worse. While passing through the English Channel, Kuznetsov belched forth such hideous, thick plumes of smoke from her oil fired engines that I seriously doubt she could conduct flight operations under such conditions. See, carriers, when they do flight ops, always turn into the wind. Pilots trying to land on Kuznetsov would be rendered almost totally blind by these clouds of incredibly dense smoke emanating from the ship and flowing straight into their approach path to land. And this was while cruising at a leisurely 7-8 knots, not the 25+ generally required for flight operat


Wow. They are either using incredibly dirty, unrefined oil, or those engines have unbelievable problems. Likely a bit of both.
Cross check the dates provide earlier before sharing your stuff.
Admiral Kuznetsov met with this condition only once in oct'16 but the pic was of before june'16.
 

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It is not fit for even training forget about war. Its engine has failed and A? Can not operate away from chinese sea shore.
 

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It is not fit for even training forget about war. Its engine has failed and A? Can not operate away from chinese sea shore.
1. You just made that up, like your fellow troll @TPFscopes.

2. Considering that Liaoning is a far superior AC to the Vikramaditya, what does that say about your own aircraft carrier?
 

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Cross check the dates provide earlier before sharing your stuff.
Admiral Kuznetsov met with this condition only once in oct'16 but the pic was of before june'16.
Use your head chief. You just said that picture was taken in June 2016 on the SCS. I've given you source material proving the Liaoning only entered the SCS in December of 2016.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-south-china-sea-near-taiwan-in-show-of-force

Chinese warships enter South China Sea near Taiwan in show of force

This article is 7 months old

http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2016-12/27/content_7425861.htm

China's aircraft carrier Liaoning breaks through first island chain
Time
2016-12-27

Just admit you made a mistake and stop making an ass out of yourself.

 
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1. You just made that up, like your fellow troll @TPFscopes.

2. Considering that Liaoning is a far superior AC to the Vikramaditya, what does that say about your own aircraft carrier?
Lioning is a floating junk which took 14 years to construct super structure and engine failed soon as it put into operation. Our vikramaditya is currently in south china sea but lioning can not leave chinese coast. Totally unfit for any war or even exercise.
 

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Lioning is a floating junk which took 14 years to construct super structure and engine failed soon as it put into operation. Our vikramaditya is currently in south china sea but lioning can not leave chinese coast. Totally unfit for any war or even exercise.
You've proven time and again that you live in your own fairy tale world where India is producing 138 exaflop supercomputers in 2017, the Barak medium range SAM is better than all Chinese SAM systems put together and now, Vikramaditya is sailing through the South China Sea.

As it happens CV16 Liaoning is en route to the South China Sea to engage in operations there for the second time this year. Vikramaditya is somewhere in the Bay of Bengal for the Malabar exercises. But I'd rather not argue with people who seem to have no grounding in fact-based realities.
 

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High resolution pics of the Hong Kong visit:








 

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A continuation of the previous post:








 
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The barge which served to recieve visitors tied to CV16 where she was anchored in Hong Kong's harbor:



The reception held in her Hangar deck:



Civilians on deck:


 

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The CIC on Liaoning :



CV16's OLS(optical landing system)

 

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