Learn from India: Pak media tells govt

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  1. ejazr

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    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/learn-from-india-pak-media-tells-govt/741674/0

    The conviction of a serving Indian Army general for his role in a land scam should serve as an example for Pakistan, where no action has been taken against military officers linked to various corruption scandals, the Pakistani media said today.

    Holding up the example of the Indian general, editorials in several leading newspapers contended that Pakistan could become a real democracy only if certain institutions like the army are not treated as "sacred cows" and if all organs of the state are held accountable for their actions.

    "The example of the court martial that tried (Lt Gen P K Rath) should be applied in Pakistan, not just for the army, but for the entire executive cadre. No one can be above the law any longer," said the editorial in The Nation, a conservative daily known for toeing a pro-army line and criticising India.

    "The conviction of a senior army officer in India should serve as a wake-up call for Pakistan. We should emulate their example," said an editorial titled "Justice for all" in the liberal Daily Times.

    It called for greater transparency in the functioning of the Pakistani military, including the closely guarded military budget that is seldom discussed even in parliament.

    "The only way Pakistan can ever become a real democracy is when we stop treating some institutions as "sacred cows".

    Transparency in the military, starting from the defence budget, should be mandatory. Justice must be served across the board," the editorial said.

    The Express Tribune, in an editorial titled "Learning from our neighbours," said the conviction of Lt Gen Rath would lead to some in Pakistan concluding that the Indian Army "is as corrupt as its counterparts in Pakistan."

    It added: "But we should be taking a very different lesson from this case. Both civilian politicians and the military in India have been implicated in corruption scandals.

    Yet the difference between the two countries is that in India, the guilty have been held responsible for their misdeeds."

    The action taken against Rath and another lieutenant general for the Sukna land scam "is a good example of the fact that in India, it is the civilian set-up that is in charge," The Express Tribune said.

    "Before pointing fingers at India, we should ask if we can say the same of ourselves," the editorial concluded.

    Rath, a former deputy Chief of Army Staff-designate, was found guilty on three counts after an eight-month-long court martial. He was convicted for facilitating a deal with a realtor to build an educational institute adjacent to the Sukna military station in West Bengal.

    He was also found guilty of issuing a no-objection certificate and illegally signing a memorandum of understanding with the educational trust by not informing his superiors.

    His seniority was reduced by 15 years for pension benefits and he also forfeited two years of seniority.

    The Pakistani media noted that not a single military officer in Pakistan, serving or retired, had been tried or convicted following allegations of involvement in corruption scandals.

    Pakistan remains "under the khaki shadows despite the fact that a democratic set-up is in place" and corruption scandals in the military "are either swept under the carpet or never come out in public", the Daily Times said in its editorial.

    It noted that a recent example of such corruption was the lease of the Pakistan Railways Golf Club in Lahore that allegedly involved three retired generals.

    "Land scams are a norm in our military while other corruption tactics involve kickbacks on arms deals," it added.

    Action is not taken in such scandals "because of the military establishment's strong hold over our political system and the media" and the "fear of retribution", the Daily Times observed.

    The Nation noted that the "internal accountability mechanism of the Indian Army contrasts with that of the Pakistan Army, where a case coming up before the National Assembly's Public Accounts Committee was deferred because the (army chief) had ordered a fresh inquiry even though vast sums had been lost on the stock market."

    "Clearly, the (Pakistan) Army may not formally rule the country, but it still looks after its own," The Nation said.
     
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  3. ejazr

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    The editorial being referred to is here

    Daily Times - SECOND EDITORIAL: Justice for all

    Lieutenant-General P K Rath, a serving Indian general, was convicted in a court martial for Sukna land scam on Friday. His service seniority was reduced by 15 years in terms of pensionary benefits and two year loss of seniority. He was found guilty of issuing a no-objection certificate (NoC), signing an illegal memorandum of understanding (MoU) with a realtor and hiding the deal from his superiors. Rath is the senior-most serving army officer in India to have been convicted. The conviction of a senior army officer in India should serve as a wake-up call for Pakistan. We should emulate their example.

    Both India and Pakistan got their independence in the same month, same year, yet the way these two countries progressed is completely different. India is the world’s largest democracy. On the other hand, Pakistan has been juggling between military rules and inefficient democracies all these years. Even now, it continues to remain under the khaki shadows despite the fact that a democratic set-up is in place. There have been many corruption scandals in Pakistan’s military forces but no action has ever been taken against either retired or serving officers. As far as the politicians are concerned, alleged corruption charges against them make headlines but when it comes to corruption scandals in the military, they are either swept under the carpet or never come out in public. A recent example is that of the lease of the Pakistan Railways Golf Club in Lahore, which involved three retired generals. Land scams are a norm in our military while other corruption tactics involve kickbacks on arms deals, etc. No government, military or civilian, has held any army officer responsible for the massive corruption that takes place on a regular basis. It is because of the military establishment’s strong hold over our political system and the media. Fear of retribution is one of the foremost reasons why military scandals are always ignored.

    The only way Pakistan can ever become a real democracy is when we stop treating some institutions as “sacred cows”. Transparency in the military, starting from the defence budget, should be mandatory. Justice must be served across the board. Truth, when selective, may console but cannot heal. Justice, when compartmentalised, may restore order but not peace.
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    So what happens if Deepak Kapoor is found guilty? I hope they jail him for some time!
     
  5. anoop_mig25

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    and yes indian militrary must learn form pakistan army. sometimes correction is necessary and is long time that there has been any correction occured in india
     
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    Aieeee, Kaffirs, kaffirs! How dare these daily-sahaily people elevate Kufr India over Pakistan, hain ji? Wajib-Ul-Qatal matter. :love:
     
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    It will remain but a pipe dream for pakistan.
     
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    Copy India to end corruption in Pakistani military: daily (Lead)

    Islamabad |Monday, 2011 2:35:20 PM IST


    Pakistan should emulate India and act against corrupt military officers, a daily said Monday, noting that no action has ever been taken against retired or serving soldiers.

    "The only way Pakistan can ever become a real democracy is when we stop treating some institutions as `sacred cows'," the Daily Times said in a hard hitting editorial.

    The editorial followed the Indian Army's decision to court martial Lt Gen P.K. Rath for his involvement in a land scam.

    Rath was found guilty over the issue of a no-objection certificate to a private realtor to transfer a 70-acre plot of land adjacent to a military station in West Bengal's Darjeeling district.

    "The conviction of a senior army officer in India should serve as a wake-up call for Pakistan. We should emulate their example," the daily said.

    It said that although India and Pakistan became independent in August 1947, "the way these two countries progressed is completely different".

    "India is the world's largest democracy. On the other hand, Pakistan has been juggling between military rules and inefficient democracies all these years. Even now, it continues to remain under the khaki shadows despite the fact that a democratic set-up is in place."

    Noting that there have been many corruption scandals in Pakistan's military, it said "no action has ever been taken against either retired or serving officers".

    "As far as the politicians are concerned, alleged corruption charges against them make headlines but when it comes to corruption scandals in the military, they are either swept under the carpet or never come out in public."

    It added: "Land scams are a norm in our military while other corruption tactics involve kickbacks on arms deals... No government, military or civilian, has held any army officer responsible for the massive corruption that takes place on a regular basis.

    "It is because of the military establishment's strong hold over our political system and the media. Fear of retribution is one of the foremost reasons why military scandals are always ignored.

    "Transparency in the military, starting from the defence budget, should be mandatory."

    --Indo-Asian News Service

    http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/Asia/20110124/1673842.html
     
  9. Ray

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    Tihar?

    Possibly he might get a choice?

    Also the politicians and bureaucrat not only in this case, but others?
     
  10. Hud

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    Pakistani Newspaper should ask their govt or who ever rules them that to give the whole nation a suicide pill so that it puts them out of their misery. Pakistan is the only country in which the Army even after loosing three wars it itself started and loosing half the country still call the shorts.Paki Papers it is too late for you , these papers did not speak even at those time of disasters now babies don't cry it is too late for u fools.
     
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    come again? ..............
     

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