Learn from India: ex-PLA officer

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  1. Drsomnath999

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    China should learn from India by encouraging religious beliefs and promoting democratic values, a retired official of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) has said in a commentary that has stirred debate in Chinese cyberspace.

    China also needed to follow India's example in strategic affairs, devoting more attention to its navy to project power across the oceans and being steadfast in enforcing its territorial claims — as India was over Arunachal Pradesh — wrote Song Zhongping, a retired military instructor at the PLA's influential Second Artillery Force and now a widely-followed military strategist.

    His article, titled “China should be humble and learn from India”, has sparked debate in China's thriving online community, receiving more than 250,000 views within just two days of being posted on the news website of Hong Kong-based Phoenix television.

    “We should not only learn from the West, but India as well,” Mr. Song argued, pointing to five specific areas where he felt China could learn from India. Most Chinese, he said, tended to “look down upon India”, showing “contempt for a poor, democratic country” when they saw images such as huge crowds on trains that often circulated on Chinese blogs.

    However, “China should be humble and learn from India since each country has her merits and faults,” he said. Most of the comments in response to his piece supported his views.

    The first lesson, Mr. Song said, was to learn from a government that encouraged religious beliefs, in contrast to China where “a national grief” was that “people regard money as their only pursuit”. “Our nation attaches primary importance to economic development and everything else should give way to it,” he said. “As a consequence people are morally bankrupt.”

    He also pointed to India's more balanced economic model, amid a challenge faced by China's export-driven growth to stimulate domestic-driven demand and innovation industries. “India has enjoyed strong economic growth without overdependence on foreign trade,” he said.

    Mr. Song said India was also better at “protecting the national core interest.” While India had ensured it had strong claims to Arunachal Pradesh — which China refers to as “southern Tibet” — China had “lost control over this area of over 90,000 square kilometres”, he claimed.

    India also projected its power better across its borders. He viewed India's growing presence in the Indian Ocean region as favourable in comparison to the protracted disputes China faces with many of its neighbours across the South China Sea. India was developing and modernising its navy rapidly, acquiring three aircraft carriers, while he viewed China's progress as being slow with fears in Beijing of reinforcing a “China threat” perception. “We should realise the value and interests of the sea, because others are already one step ahead of us,” he noted.

    A fifth area was in diplomacy and soft power, with the world, according to him, welcoming India's rise but fearing China's. India's democratic values were largely behind the positive reception accorded to its rise, and also acted as an enabler by giving India access to technologies that the West denied China.

    “If we are to make friends with Western countries, we should have the same values,” he said. “China is trying to improve its democratic value system, but there is still a long way to go.”

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  3. Drsomnath999

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    Yes they should learn one thing from India (i.e)not to claim ur neighbour's land as ur own & invade it [​IMG]
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    i must say reading that news made me that that china has intelligent and farward thinkers.
     
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    Ok let me say this China seems to have enforced its territorial claims better.I don't much about the rest of his points
     
  6. huaxia rox

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    中国应放下身段向印度多学习_宋忠平_凤凰博报- 博采众家之言-报闻公民心声-凤凰网
    this is the article.....india media only says a part of the story...but anyway i do agree some of mr song says...

    and 1 of the very 1s that i dont agree is what he writes about the economy.....whats wrong with chinas 'export-driven growth'? nations like japan and south korea r all good examples for us....u cant say export-driven economy is problem free but every nation picks its road to develop...when european debt crise taking place chinas export-driven economy is getting blamed by many including some chinese...but what i wanna say is european debt crise will not last for good....the US is even getting recovered now....when china is getting benifits becoz of the export-driven economy no 1 saying its good or at least 1 way for china to develop....and when shit happens many turn up to laugh at china as if everything we did is wrong (forget how shanghai can be the current shanghai...how shenzhen can be current shenzhen rite?).....thats just very funny....even india itself is making hundreds of SEZs to attract foreigners to come to invest.....why?

    meanwhile the domestic-driven demand of prc is way bigger than many nations especially india....demand doesnt get created from nothing.....u need to get rich or enough money 1st then u can demand...
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I think China is doing OK in its own way!

    Yes, money should not be the only driving factor.

    A wee bit of being at peace with oneself, helps in maintaining a healthy balance between worldly comfort and peace with oneself!
     
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    1 india is fully controlling zangnan while prc is doing basically nothing.....of coz i agree with that.

    2 india is developing navy real quick and prc is not doing well at the same time...i basically agree

    3 the core meaning of this article is also important....china should be humble and learn from many other countries of coz including india.
     
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    @brigadier the comments are more intresting
     
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    Notwithstanding, China is doing well and there is no doubt about it.

    It should only calm down over the greed for money and instead allow a bit of spiritualism to come in.

    If that comes in, none can beat China as a world leader!

    顆老鼠屎壞了一鍋粥
     
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    Like I said, Chinese are willing to learn anything good left in India.
     
  13. Iamanidiot

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    But we sadly do not have any
     
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    This is clearly the case of grass being greener on the other side. The first line reads learn from the religious values of India. Where as this diversity has caused some problems and politic upheaval. Learn from India's democracy, if I m not wrong the FDI in retail(may have been good/bad) was thwarted because of this. I remember the Indonesian premier saying that power of democracy in India is stronger than the ability to put in reforms.

    Anyways there is something we can certainly learn from China ctrl+C ctrl+V
     
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    china is a great country & no doubt about its success. India is fairly doing well -- we are around 10 years behind them in most fields. EVEN WE SHOULD LEARN FROM CHINESE. They get things done there well and in time, while in India things take quiet long to be decided and then tooo long to be implemented. There is a lack of Political will and Hardness.
     
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    Like showing attractive Chinese girls' avatars ! I like that Nimo !
     
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    Let Xuanzang (Chinese: 玄奘; pinyin: Xuán Zàng; Wade–Giles: Hsüan-tsang Sanskrit: ह्वेनसांग) (c. 602 – 664) rediscover India in 21 century .
     
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    Nothing is left in the neighbourhood to the North to compare what is good and what is bad.
     
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    “India Conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border”.....

    Said by Hu Shih - was a Chinese philosopher, essayist and diplomat....and former USA ambassador...
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    There been always it just time is different.
     
  21. huaxia rox

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    not trying to derail the thread but the funny thing is since when do u indians call a taiwanese chinese??

    Hu Shih was a good taiwan politician indeed and a taiwanese should of coz be called chinese but what u said is never heard and seen in chinese fonts and the all the sources up there can only be tracked back to indian websites excluding those who quote the sentence from indian sites....i really doubt if its just another india created myth just like nehru asked the US to grant china a seat in SC instead of india kind of things........of coz cant be sure like the nehru 1.....
     
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