Ladakh council adopts new emblem replacing J-K logo

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  1. Singh

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    The Ladakh Autonomous Hill Development Council (LAHDC) has decided to adopt an insignia similar to the national emblem by replacing the Jammu and Kashmir's logo, drawing a sharp reaction from PDP which said it was "unfortunate". In a unanimous resolution in this regard passed last week, the council adopted the symbol with the Ashoka Pillar which almost resembles the national emblem.
    An LAHDC councillor said the decision was taken so as to give the emblem a more national look. Jammu and Kashmir has its own flag and emblem.

    The councillor said the inclusion of the new logo will help in promoting the hill council as a unique political dispensation for the people of Ladakh.

    Reacting to the issue, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah said his government will take a decision after examining the matter.

    "We are examining the issue. After all, it is a local municipality. Even the Srinagar municipality has a different emblem. We will examine the manner and take a decision," Omar told PTI.

    Opposition Peoples Democratic party (PDP) termed the move to discard the state emblem by LAHDC as "unfortunate".

    "PDP will fight any attempt to dilute the special status of Jammu and Kashmir under the Constitution. Leh is part of the state. The emblem controversy is unfortunate," PDP president Mehbooba Mufti said.

    She claimed ruling National Conference has bartered away all the state's financial resources and institutions and there was need "to protect the unique identity of the state".

    Mehbooba also said the PDP is fully behind the Private Member's bill planned to be tabled by party MLA from Bandipora Nizamuddin Bhat for hoisting the state flag alongside the tricolour.

    The 32-member LAHDC also passed a resolution for inclusion of Bodhi language in the Eight Schedule of the Constitution without any opposition.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Ladak...mblem-replacing-J-K-logo/Article1-667511.aspx
     
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  3. Rage

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    Master stroke. This sends a clear, if ever symbolic message to the Pak-sponsored n***** ***** ******** separatists in Kashmir, that there is No consensus on separation from India.
     
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    I believe Ladakh and Jammu regions must be given maximum autonomy from the J&K assembly. Isolate the valley within the state and strengthen the hands of the pro-India elements there.
     
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    Great news.

    Does LAHDC have the constitutional powers to enact something similar to Article 370 within the state? Just curious.
     
  6. Ray

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    What is the hassle that is troubling Minnie Mouse?

    Tit for Tat!

    Nothing to get het up, after all they are only following what Minnie Mouse wants to be done for J&K.
     
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    Lovely move. I hope Srinagar doesn't try to reverse it.
     
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    When Pakistan could set up administrative divisions in POK, I think so should India. Ladakh can be made a union territory, and southern J&K districts (Kathua, Jammu, Udhampur, Rajauri, Eastern Poonch, and Ananthnaag) can be spun off into a separate Jammu state. It will fracture separatism.
     
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    ^Such an action will violate the J&K autonomous status. That is why LDAC was set up as a quasi-autonomous body. Center cannot simply break up J&K like other states without violating its prior commitments.
     
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    @t,

    Separating Ladakh from the state of J&K would erode the divisions in the state Legislature, coalesce their identity as a 'separate' state and enable politicians/the opposition to hijack the state legislature, for their own ends. It will strengthen, not fracture, separatism since separatism emerges primarily from the Valley.

    Besides, it will make coordination between state security-agencies more difficult.

    The chu tiya Pakistanis may have done it, in violation of all int'l Law <another reason why we can hold their balls to the wall and say, no, we're not conducting any sh!tty plebiscite until you return those sites to their original, neutral or posessed status> but we can't. Instead, we should be focussing the media on their transgressions - including happily giving away a piece of territory to China <because they couldn't manage it, and also because they are sly, slippery lil snakes> effectively turning a two-way dispute into a three-way one. Because they know, eventually, they wouldn't be able to hold off against India.

    This is a good J&K newswebsite to go to, posits a pro-India opinion and offers news from all over the territory:

    http://www.jknewspoint.com/index.ph...ation-of-jak-with-india-only-solution-jaitley
     
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    Well it's about time we started doing so. Kashmir valley has usurped the representation of J&K and its time we took a stand against this.
     
  12. every problem in j&k will be solved if article 370 is scrapped.the center should take proactive steps to settle back the kashmiri pandits in kashmir.the home ministry should replace the bsf and crpf in the state by a pandit regiment composed of mainly kashmiri pandit under the control of army who will defend kashmir with more dedication than others.
     
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    simply do constituency delimitation such that the valley is underepresented over
     
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    The Kashmiri pandits ought to be settled back there, else all their land would go to goons and parasites.
     
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    There cannot be a resettlement without a consensus. Otherwise you risk turning the area into an Israel-Palestine sort of situation.
     
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    Then it is time we implement harsh measures and be ready to take anybody on for our state. This is our state and our province. If we boast so much power and clout and what not, then we must have the nuts to stand for what is ours by right. Otherwise we will be made to crawl for everything in life.
     
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    This IS NOT analogous to Israel-Palestine. These people belong to that state and were chased out by islamists. They still legally own the land there and the properties are in their name. There's nothing like resettlement, only a return to their own homes. If the extremists wish to turn this into an inferno, we must be ready to hit back hard. Looking for consensus would be like searching for a snowflake in Congo. The separatists and Islamists will never ever agree to letting these people return. Consensus be damned.
     
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    It is not like israel-palestine situation because it has always been Indian land and Indians have not suddenly landed in kashmir from across the ocean after a gap of thousand years.

    consensus cannot be made with terrorist sympathizers or opportunistic politicians who would say and propose anything for votes.
     
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    It does not matter whether or not it is analogous to Palestine. That is besides the point. By forcibly pushing people into the valley, the ground situation might become like the one in Palestine. You may have facts on your side, but what ultimately matters is perception, not fact.
     
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    Perceptions are ephemeral, they change with time, facts do not. Kashmiri Pandits will be GOING BACK to THEIR homes, THEIR properties, THEIR land. They ARE NOT taking over someone else's land, farms, houses, schools. Is this simple fact so hard to perceive?
     
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    You know, we have it pretty good at the moment. Tomorrow if Al Jazeera English starts giving live 24x7 coverage to the rioters in Srinagar, what are we going to do about it?

    Better to think practically and not start giving moral lectures. Western media is on our side till now, but things are changing fast. China has started their own media channels in English and other languages, Middle-East channels like Al Jazeera are becoming influential. We cannot predict if they will tow the Indian line or decide that they need another "revolution" to boost their viewership.
     
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