Kulbhushan Jadhav - Developments

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Those who posted and are involved in the article should be hanged for treason.

It's the same old stuff. ISI pays Ahmed Patel, who routes very good money to presstitute for concocted story. They know that Indian "democracy" is basically anarchy where you can get away with anything, so the risk and cost to character and reputation is negligible.

Modi needs to squeeze hawala to the point of non-existence, and all this will stop. Unfortunately he can't stop people from writing lies like this - it needs to come from a social movement to boycott their sponsors etc.

Our republic of sheep is too busy buying Chinese goods and studying for B. Tech to care about silly things like national security and existential threats.
 

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Look, now what happened we can't change
Neither we can stop such from repeating again....
And until Indian foreign relations are strong with US, EU , Israel , ME and East Asia-Japan-Pacific , in international level, nothing negetive will happen to Jadhav case.

What is this actually for to create an illussion to Pak's own people, a deliberate attempt to make their own people live in Alternative History ....

Pakistan will surely use this to defame India but only inside their own country...a propaganda and conspiracy to hurt Jadhav case, increasing their own public demand to execute him....and only for that such articles are been circulated inside Pak....

What is the main thing here, there must be serious attempt on how to make such propagandas failed in their own land, to show reality to Pak's own people and to make them realise their own Gov is keeping them in dark and conspiring against their own people.
 

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I said it before, while the right was masturbating over a perceived advantage in non-traditional media/ social networks post 2014, the left was cultivating an infrastructure of censorship and propaganda similar to the one they had a monopoly over a few years back.

The Quint is just a single node. I can count at least 5 equally vile websites off the top of my head, not to mention the usual suspects in the entertainment industry and the socially aware "comedians" on Youtube.

The Quint is the same news portal which conducted that sting operation on a Lance Naik that led to his suicide. Then, called kids celebrating Holi "terrorists" and followed up with a story on how Osama was a great husband and a father.

No one is going to hang for this, they have retracted the story (read shoot and scoot). Angry righties are chimping out on Twitter with idiotic hashtags and this hit-job has achieved all of its primary targets. Now, they are just waiting for the government to for a slap on the wrist to placate their myopic followers. The rudali brigade is ready for the administration to shoot itself in the foot and lose the perception war as well.

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The writer of that article has not retracted his stance. He's still at it.

 

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Pakistan will surely use this to defame India but only inside their own country...a propaganda and conspiracy to hurt Jadhav case, increasing their own public demand to execute him..
Take it from me, due to international pressure, Pak will never hang Jadav. His death sentence will be commuted to imprisonment for life. They also can't afford to release him as then the cat will be out of the bag about he being abducted by the Jaishul Adil and sold to the Paki Army for a fat sum.

And who are these so called 'ex RAW chiefs' he claims told him this? We need to know who they are and confront them for facts. Very convenient for this douchebag to say 'ex RAW chiefs'.
 

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Come on guys, that old hag just wants some attention and money through free publicity. Kindly, stop giving him any of that.

Creating controversies is the new marketing strategy, how the hell are you all not able to figure that out.
Who care what a two bit tabloid journo writes in his toilet paper, none of this will have any effect on the case.

Jadhav will be executed when Porkistan is fully satisfied with the attention it has gotten from India.
 

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An odd article requested for by the Quint doesn't make the General part of the Quint tabloid editorial or management team.

But yes, he should have known better than to associate himself with a far left leaning pseudo secular trash tabloid like the Quint.
It's not a one off article, he has contributed many more articles to Quint on other occasions as well.


He has written upwards of 30+ articles that I know of. Here's his author profile on Quint : https://www.thequint.com/author/1553/syed-ata-hasnain

As Pak Strikes Again, Allow Indian Army to Act Quietly in Kashmir - Quint
J&K Encounters: Rethink Anti-Terror Ops to Reduce Army Casualties - Quint

Nagrota Attack: Anti-Terror Training Is the Chink in Army’s Armour - Quint
Who is Khalid Wani: A Militant’s Brother or Just Another Civilian? - Quint
Threats From the ‘New Militancy’ Mushrooming in J&K - Quint

Why Pakistan Acceded to NSA Level Talks in a Third Country - Quint
Shaming Pakistan for Terror Link Continues to Remain a Challenge - Quint
 

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But yes, he should have known better than to associate himself with a far left leaning pseudo secular trash tabloid like the Quint.
He's a fan of rNDTV too.

Who care what a two bit tabloid journo writes in his toilet paper, none of this will have any effect on the case.
I care. It is all about perception. Though India IS NOT an intolerant country, these scumbags ranted and ranted the whole day and made people perceive that is an intolerant country. And most of all, these TSP jihadi's will go cribbing on the world stage that this was an article from an Indian media establishment, and was forced to take down the article due to the truth in it and fear of prosecution (the debate of press freedom will re-begin). Not sure how big an impact it will have on the case, but they will create an alternate perception.
 

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http://www.frontline.in/the-nation/indias-secret-war/article10055129.ece?homepage=true



Towards betrayal

From 2014 onwards, sources say, Jadhav grew increasingly close to the Karachi-based ganglord Uzair Baluch, once a valued ally for Pakistan’s military but forced to flee the country in 2013. Having held an Iranian passport since 1987, Uzair Baluch moved in and out of Chabahar. Living next door to Baluch’s nephew, Jaleel Baluch, Jadhav paid cash for information. Pakistani military sources insist that he made at least five deliveries of weapons to Baloch insurgents for RAW after 2014—but, like so much to do with the story, the facts are murky.





An official Pakistani investigation document shows that Baluch, who was provided safe haven by Iran after a falling-out with the ISI, returned the favour by becoming “involved in espionage activities, by providing secret information/sketches regarding Army installations and officials to foreign agents”. The material he handed over appears to have been low-grade.

Last year, Uzair Baluch was finally detained in Abu Dhabi, on the basis of an Interpol warrant, and deported to Pakistan. Baluch’s interrogation, Pakistani official sources say, eventually led the ISI to the Indian whose operations in Chahbahar had gone undetected for over a decade. In April 2017, Uzair Baluch gave testimony in a Karachi magistrate’s court, admitting to having been in touch both with Jadhav and Iranian intelligence. His account provides some insight into how the Jadhav story came to an end.

Though Jadhav was accused in the Pakistani media of engaging in acts of terrorism, the secret military court in Pakistan that sentenced Jadhav to death tried him only under the Official Secrets Act. The Act allows the imposition of the death sentence on individuals who pass any “information which is calculated to be or might be or is intended to be, directly or indirectly, useful to an enemy”.
 

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Though Jadhav was accused in the Pakistani media of engaging in acts of terrorism, the secret military court in Pakistan that sentenced Jadhav to death tried him only under the Official Secrets Act. The Act allows the imposition of the death sentence on individuals who pass any “information which is calculated to be or might be or is intended to be, directly or indirectly, useful to an enemy”.
Now here is where Pakistanis are trapped, they claim that KJ is terrorist and spy, now they have to prove in the ICJ that he is aforesaid based on the record of the Pakistani Military Tribunal, or whatever junk it is.

If they don't, then Spy and terrorist charge will not even sustain against him, that is not all ICJ has already held that even if spy or terrorist, he will be granted Counselor access. That is FR of individual.

More embarrassment on way to Pakistan...................:rofl::rofl:
 

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Check out @sayareakd’s Tweet:
Looks like Pakis are reading my post and trying to improve their case.

Its too late now.
 

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Kulbhushan Jadhav's final hearing at ICJ to start in 10 days (Feb 18th)
(Feb18th to 21st)
For those interested, the hearing will be telecast LIVE on ICJ's website.

I did watch the initial hearings LIVE on the website - it was fascinating even then to watch Harish Salve construct such a logical and methodical case. I also watched the Paki barrister (Queen's counsel from London) flounder aimlessly.
I said to myself right then that irrespective of what ICJ rules, Harish Salve did a phenomenal job!

Interestingly the next day, all Paki media was going gaga that they'll win the case saying "hamare wakil ka accent suna aapne....kis lehje mein angrezi bolte hain woh! Wah! Case tho hum hi jeethenge" :)
 

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Check out @sayareakd’s Tweet:
Looks like Pakis are reading my post and trying to improve their case.

Its too late now.
These guys don't get embarrassed. They had even caught Raymond Davis and "promised to hang him". They whipped up frenzy to the point that the military and civilians were both trying to one-up each other in who will hang him first. Murica was putting pressure but it wasn't working. Finally they threatened to cancel aid. ISI chief hurriedly traveled to Murica and a settlement was reached. As per Islamic law, a person can be pardoned if the family of the people he murdered are paid some blood money. Shameless ISI was asking the CIA to pay even this money, and they refused. Finally ISI paid the family of the dead agents (killed by Raymond Davis) out of their own pocket and he was released. Later Raymond was trapped by the CIA in the USA under false charges of assaulting a civilian and kept him under custody (just like they kept David Headley).

We are projecting our own attributes like honor, shame, public image onto Pakistan. It's a gutter-chap nation that does not have those attributes. The military is pulling the strings from the back so even if there is a public embarrassment at international forums, the civilian puppet gets the shame. They don't even care if we catch 10 ISI spies (we already did that). They are playing a different game here. India has suspended the bilateral talks. They want to be seen as being powerful enough to have brought India to the negotiating table.

Jadhav lives just 10 mins from my house. On most days, there are NEWS vans parked outside the house. There's police bandobast there most of the time and his family has been shifted elsewhere.







 
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even Pak Constitution Article 10 provide protection to "Person" which include kulbhushan.

Now the question is if thats why counselor access when not given, how Kulbhushan would appoint Counsel of his choice to defend him. Thats why its illegal sentence, even under the Pakistani law.

These Pakistanis are again going to lose case at ICJ.
 

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