K'taka govt. crisis - Congress paid rebel MLA's hotel bill

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  1. sean

    sean Regular Member

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    This dispeakable level of corruption in the name of democracy is unbeleable and unheard of in any civilized society that is now becoming one of the main political weapon of the present ruling congress party.This type of blatant show of power grabbing through encouragement of political corruption should by all means needs to be stopped. In India we have seen already in the statew level that the good governance for the people's welfare is the only key to a successful tenure of a government. Unfortunately we have seen during cut motion Pm Manmohan Singh how he engaged in horse trading of the MPs to weather the fall of his government tby asking Mukesh Ambani to to buy MP for his Government to survive. Now the Congress/JDS(U) in Karnataka using the same shameful tactics,kidnapped those rebel MLAs and openly bargaining for them with hepty 25 corers each for them to support in paving the way for the fall of the present BJP run state government. We have seen in Bihar how awful the LalooRrabri regime was, thosewho looted the public money without any remorse now back in the game offering motor bike if he voted back in power.

    Here is the article from TOI

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...e-kidnapped-Karnataka-MLAs-BJP/articleshow/67

    Congress, JD(S) have kidnapped Karnataka MLAs: BJP
    IANS, Oct 9, 2010, 06.55pm IST

    Open horse trading in Karnataka

    PANAJI: Eleven of the rebel Karnataka legislators staying at a five-star resort in Goa have been "forcefully kidnapped" by the Congress and Janata Dal (Secular), a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader alleged on Saturday.

    Speaking to reporters outside the resort, BJP leader Ramesh Katti claimed that senior Goa police officials were used to physically shift the legislators out of a hotel, with the help of hired goons. Katti, a BJP parliamentarian from Karnataka, with other BJP leaders, was trying to lure five BJP and six Independents MLAs back to the BJP fold.

    "In all, thirteen MLAs, who include seven BJP MLAs and six Independents, have been kidnapped by the Congress and the JD(S) using goons and police machinery," Katti said. Only two legislators, including Renuka Acharya, managed to evade the "kidnapping attempts", he added.

    "Talks were going well till afternoon. Suddenly police officers came with several goons and physically lifted our MLAs. The Goa police were literally protecting the goons who were manhandling the MLAs," Katti said.

    The MP also said that ministers of the Goa government, including home minister Ravi Naik and public works department minister Churchill Alemao, had been using the state government machinery to intimidate the legislators
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    "The JD(S) and the Congress are using huge amounts of money... Rs 25 crore is being offered to each MLA to vote for the no-confidence motion," Katti alleged.

    Earlier, BJP leaders claimed that most major issues raised by the dissenting Karnataka legislators had been resolved. North Goa BJP MP Shripad Naik said that things were optimistic for the party.

    On Thursday, JD(S) leader HD Kumaraswamy, who camped in the five-star resort and was holding talks with the rebels, expressed confidence that the BS Yeddyurappa government would not last Monday's trust vote. "Just wait till then. You will realise. All the dissenting MLAs are together and they are united," Kumaraswamy told reporters, before heading for Bangalore Thursday afternoon.

    The JD(S) leader, who reached Goa Thursday, refused to reply to questions on whether the JD(S) would be supporting a Congress-led government in Karnataka in the near future.


    Read more: Congress, JD(S) have kidnapped Karnataka MLAs: BJP - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...LAs-BJP/articleshow/6719982.cms#ixzz11tDe0DuQ
     
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  3. SHASH2K2

    SHASH2K2 New Member

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    What else can you expect from a government which is hell bent on using sam, dam, dand and bhed to maintain its grip on power. we are really unfortunate that we don't have any other alternative to choose other than so called secular congress which is a wolf in dress of sheep.
     
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    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

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    why blame congress and JDS when BJP MLA are ready to sell themselves.
     
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    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    Well the same accusations were raised against Congress when PM Manmohan Singh survived the no-confidence motion after the left pulled the plug on the government.

    Ok, hold on people, we are talking about accusations of horse-trading and not the nuclear deal, so let us not get derailed here.
     
  6. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Ok the real situation in karnataka is that ever since the BJP ca,e to power it started systematic loot in the state as if there is no tomorrow. In fact it came to power by buying out votes in north karnataka all with the Reddy money that's why the Reddys are powerful. Once in power, the reddys went for an overkill. BSY wanted to come out of their clutches but he failed.

    Recently a nu,berry of scams were exposed including that where the CM himself denotified land his son bought for pittance. There are many such cases by other ministers. The recent cabinet expansion saw many others who were missing out on the loot not inducted and they were really pissed. They too wanted to make the crores. So they revolted.
    Again the reddys came to the rescue and bought over the MLAs with 20-30 crores each and pacified them. But that is not confirmed as some MLAs have been taken away by JDs.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    The present system of giving a week or so time to prove majority in the assembly or parliament is bad. It gives time for horse trading. The president or the governor should ask the govt to prove majority the very next day itself after a few members withdraw support. This will not give time for all such overt flouting of democratic ideals.
     
  8. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Why do you think most fight elections for?

    They wait these times, when they win lotteries!

    Check the Oujha box.

    Heard of the Moily tapes?

    Karnataka is one of our most exciting state for political skulduggery, of course, second to AP. Ask poor Rosaiah!
     
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    I have seen this before all too often

    When ever new Government comes to power the first thing they do is replenish their coffers for all those years they spent out of power.
    They spent the last few years out of power when they re-enter the system they end up making things worse.

    This is why i prefer Some State governments to have the same government for while .
    Same with GoI , If congress went out of power things will get bad before they ever get good. A solid decade of the same government , maybe enough reform can happen to make a difference.

    otherwise its cycle of loot get out of power
    , come back to power loot , get out of power.
     
  10. Agantrope

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    If you were offered a ~$7M would you say no, so is them. Nearly 25-40crores is what they go over it. :emot158:

    Really a quite tempting amount of money afterall MLAs of any parties are not saint to say no to this kinda of offer :happy_8:
     
  11. ahmedsid

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    The BJP Govt in Karnataka is an utter failure many friends of mine in Mysore and Bangalore. The BJP Got a golden chance to show some mettle in Kntaka, but what we heard was a big scam ever 6 months from mining to what not! The Reddy Brothers are the de facto rulers of Kntaka and there are talks that Reddy took the responsibility to bringing the Rebel MLAs back to the fold because he has been offered Deputy Chief Minister Post or something.

    JD(S) has no principles and is completely opportunist and Kumaraswamy has no ethics to speak of. The Congress in this case has been keeping quiet atleast in the open in a dignified manner while JDS chief and his right hand man drove off with the MLAs.

    And Lastly Agan, Tempting or No Tempting, Our Country has the History of Saints like Gandhiji and the others who stood firm on their beliefs. Our Politicians are supposed to learn from that. The Only thing I can ask people here is to not Vote for Parties, But to Vote for the Best Candidate in the local elections atleast. But Sadly these BJP MLAs have turned out to be nothing but a disappointment just like the scam ridden BJP Govt in Karnataka which proved its not better than JDS or the others. God Speed
     
  12. Iamanidiot

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    Karnataka politics is having reverberations and shocks from its neighbouring state .Cause of all this ruckus is in AP some really ruthless moves are going in AP.the current maoist ruckus has roots in AP.But we Telugu people are very peaceful:)
     
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    Kamreds are on a roll in AP:emot15:
     
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    I think reddy bros will be the next CM of Karnataka .boy...,boy... intresting
     
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    Reddy brothers are Ready?

    Should be in jail actually, if what is said is true!
     
  16. sean

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    BJP came to power in karnataka due to failure of succesive state governmnet under both Congress & Dave Gadha ,The bottle neck infrastructure which was one of the major issues including massive political corruption among few other major issues during assembly election which people of Karnataka voted in favor of the Bjp to change the Corrupt Chalat Hai govt. After BJP took over they fully focused on IT related infra etc. The recent World bank index in 2009 put Karnataka as the most favored First) destination for business friendly environment,

    CHENNAI: The World Bank has developed a new Investment Climate Index to help identify the key challenges and bottlenecks to be overcome in attracting business investment. In a policy research working paper, World Bank analyst Guiseppe Iarossi ranks the investment climate in 16 Indian States, using data from a survey of 4,000 entrepreneurs in 2005. Karnataka tops the list, with Kerala a close second. Tamil Nadu comes in at ninth place, overtaken by Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh, Haryana, West Bengal, Maharashtra and Delhi.

    Having identified 46 variables descriptive of the business environment in the 16 States, the researcher grouped them into three categories: inputs, infrastructure and institutions. Two dimensions were identified for each category: the objective indicators of cost and the subjective indicators of perception.

    Narayan Murty just recently opened the Global training center (selected Karnataka ) surprisingly Sonia was invited by BJP Narayan Murty to inaugurate and seh can't wait even though it was a BJP run state.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fgNPk4sPuA
     
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    The Pioneer :: Home : >> Karnataka crisis remains on boil

    Karnataka crisis remains on boil
    October 10, 2010 10:19:33 PM

    Kestur Vasuki/Mayabhushan | Bangalore/Panaji

    The political crisis facing the BS Yeddyurappa Government deepened on Saturday as four more BJP MLAs reportedly shifted their loyalty to the rebel camp, putting the 28-month-old BJP Government in further trouble. The CM faces the floor test in the Vidhan Sabha on Monday.

    In a dramatic development, JD(S) leader and former Prime Minister HD Devegowda and his son HD Kumaraswamy, with the help of Congress, shifted four BJP MLAs — Shankarlinge Gowda, SK Bellubbi, Manappa Vajjal and Shivanagowda Naik — to Goa, where other dissidents were allegedly held captive in a hotel, sources said.

    They also said the 17 rebel MLAs, including these four MLAs, would be shifted to Pune where the Karnataka Congress MLAs have been lodged. Reports indicated that all these MLAs left for an undisclosed destination from Goa in a chartered flight.

    Faced with a fast-changing political scenario, Yeddyurappa, however, expressed confidence that he would prove the majority in the House on Monday and blamed the Opposition JD(S) and Congress for trying to destabilise his Government.

    Yeddyurappa said, “I am 100 per cent sure I will prove the majority. No doubt about this. It is the joint effort of Congress and JD(S) combine who trying to de-stabilise my government. Our MLAs have been taken forcibly away.”

    Meanwhile, the rebel leader and Excise Minister Renukacharya claimed that he had escaped from the clutches of JD(S)-Congress and accused the two parties of a conspiracy to destabilise the BJP Government. Moreover, the BJP also managed to win over the JD(S) MLA from Chennapattana, Ashwath. Renukacharya alleged that 13 rebels got `20 crore-25 crore from JD(S) leader HD Kumaraswamy to topple the State Government. He said in Goa, “I have been isolated because unlike the other MLAs, I refused to accept this. Kumaraswamy and Congress are behind this.” Kumaraswmy denied these allegations and blamed BJP for the harakiri.

    The Karnataka crisis drama appears to have shifted out of Goa, with the dissenting legislators having supposedly left for an unknown destination amid kidnap allegations by the BJP.

    Saturday’s drama began with senior BJP leaders claiming in Panaji that they had the negotiations with the dissenting group “almost” wrapped up and ended with the BJP accusing the Congress and the JD(S) leaders of kidnapping and using goons and police machinery to manhandle the dissenting MLAs and shifting them out of their hotel.

    “Talks were going well till afternoon. Suddenly, police officers came with several goons and physically lifted our MLAs. The Goa police was literally protecting the goons,” said Ramesh Katti, a BJP MP from Karnataka.

    According to sources in the rebel camp, the 11 BJP rebel MLAs who have been slapped notices under anti-defection law, would submit their resignations to the Governor much before the deadline of Sunday evening.

    Political analysts feel if they resign before the House test, it would reduce the BJP strength to 106. In this scenario, the magic figure is 107 and the BJP needs just one member to prove the majority. However, the combined strength of the Congress, JD(S) and independents also comes to 106 (Congress 73, JD-S 27 and independents six). According to constitutional experts, the ball will be in Governor HR Bhardwaj’s court.

    Meanwhile, spiking rumours that four MLAs had joined the rebels’ camp, the BJP presented them before the media here. Parading Narasimhaswamy, Puttappa Gowda Patil, Ramanna Lamani and Krishnaiah Setty before the media, Home Minister R Ashok said they were with the party.

    In another development, senior BJP leaders were meeting with the RSS brass to find a solution to the crisis. However, BJP insiders feel that the Governor’s decision under these circumstances was going to be crucial.
     
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    First offer it then see the reaction.Its not about some fortune telling.....
     
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    Shankarlinge Gowda is a MLA of our constituency, in my opinion he is a honest man he is elected for 4 time from bjp, once as an independent . he is just upset way he was treated by cm, being a senior mla not getting a minister-ship.
     
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    Karnataka crisis: Speaker may pronounce order before trust vote

    BANGALORE: Speaker K G Bopaiah is likely to pronounce his crucial order on the petition by chief minister B S Yeddyurappa -- seeking disqualification of 11 BJP rebel MLAs -- just before tomorrow's vote of trust in his beleaguered government comes up in the state assembly.

    The speculation doing the rounds in the state legislature tonight is that Bopaiah may time the order tomorrow in such a way to avoid any possible appeal before the Karnataka high court ahead of the floor test proceedings which is scheduled to commence at 10 am.

    The Speaker had reserved his order earlier in the day without giving any time-frame in a move that left everyone guessing over what shape the political drama in Karnataka will now take.

    Bopaiah and Karnataka Governor H R Bhardwaj are already locked in a confrontation over the fate of the 11 BJP rebels which could have a bearing on the survival of the BJP's first government in the south.

    The Governor directed the Speaker to maintain the 'configuration' of the House as it existed on October 6, effectively asking him not to disqualify any rebel MLA before the floor test in the Assembly.

    The Governor's direction evoked a strong condemnation from the Speaker who called it an 'interference' with the discharge of his duties.

    Read more: Karnataka crisis: Speaker may pronounce order before trust vote - The Times of India Karnataka crisis: Speaker may pronounce order before trust vote - The Times of India
     

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