Kissinger: China won't be next superpower

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  1. ejazr

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    Kissinger: China won't be next superpower

    China will not dominate the current century while the US will continue to maintain its position in the world as the most influential country, predicts former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, according to Canada's CTV website and the website of the Globe and Mail.

    "On any foreseeable outcome, over the next 25 years, the United States is still probably going to be, overall, the strongest nation in the world -- still will have the largest economy in the world," said Kissinger, who appeared in Toronto for the annual Munk Debates.

    However, "China will be preoccupied with economic problems internally, problems domestically, with its international environment, and I have enormous difficulty imagining a world dominated by China," Kissinger said. "I believe the concept that some country will dominate the world is a misunderstanding of the world in which we live."

    China must create millions of jobs every year, millions of workers leave the countryside to live in the city, while many more migrate back and forth, Kissinger said, which pose significant challenges. He also cited some figures that suggest the country will, in 30 years, have only two working-age people for every pensioner.

    Also, "The next decade will see China trying to bring its political institutions in line with its economic change," Kissinger said. "I do not believe that a country that will be so preoccupied with this fundamental change will also have the time to dominate the world."

    Kissinger admits that China's neighbors would help to contain its rise, arguing that a balance of power must be used to deal with China and regulate international relations in the future.

    "We can draw lines," he said, referring to the world's ability to check Chinese geopolitical hegemony in East Asia. "But we have to be selective in where we draw the lines."
     
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    The only problem is China is a pressure cooker building a lot of steam with no safe avenue to out it.It took Armands posts for me to What all its economy is about and the Coloenels posts to understand it s other issues.They are going through the same cycle again and again with no hope of nirvana there
     
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    Just a fact of the great Chinese economy no country in history has become a superpower with PPP of 7,000 per person.
     
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    Iamanidiot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Lethal force the the economy is a farce it is neither sustainable nor enviable
     
  7. kickok1975

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    Let US keep its "superpower" title for now and continue sticking his big nose into everyone's affair. US is bankrupting itself with mountain high debt and enormous social and immigration issues. In 25 years or so there might be no country is willing to claim itself as "superpower".
     
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    you are right, any country that can provide a happy life for it's people should claim the meaningless title of "superpower".
     
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    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    The word " Super power " means A nation which has the " Technological ABILITY " to make and do things which others Cannot

    China is desperate for the "superpower " tag. But since it cant beat USA it is bullying Asian countries

    China has started punching "ABOVE" its weight

    China has already started quarrels With Japan, India , Philipines and Vietnam to show that it is the biggest power in Asia

    All these antics will NOT get it the super power tag .Asian countries will stand up for themselves and invite US to cool down the Chinese

    Technological strength is USA's biggest strength .Technologically China cant get even equal to the West in the next 30 years

    China's GDP can go as high as possible because of its low cost manufacturing abilities of textiles and toys and other low tech items but it wont get China the elusive superpower tag
     
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    More power comes with more responsibility. US could be a much better country for her citizens had she stayed away from many wars and conflicts that wasted trillions of dollars and tens of thousand American life that only bring anger and hate toward US around the world.
     
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    Here is definition of superpower

    A superpower is a state with a dominant position in the international system which has the ability to influence events and its own interests and project power on a worldwide scale to protect those interests. A superpower is traditionally considered to be a step higher than a great power.

    Alice Lyman Miller (Professor of National Security Affairs at the Naval Postgraduate School), defines a superpower as "a country that has the capacity to project dominating power and influence anywhere in the world, and sometimes, in more than one region of the globe at a time, and so may plausibly attain the status of global hegemony."[1]

    It was a term first applied in 1944 to the British Empire, the Soviet Union and the United States of America. Following World War II, as the British Empire transformed itself into the Commonwealth and its territories became independent, the Soviet Union and the United States generally came to be regarded as the only two superpowers, and confronted each other in the Cold War.

    After the Cold War, only the United States appeared to fulfil the criteria to be considered a world superpower,[2] although it is a matter of debate whether it is a hegemon or if it is a besieged global power.[3] Brazil, China,[4] the European Union, India, and Russia[5][6][7][8] are also thought to have the potential of achieving superpower status within the 21st century.[9]

    Some people doubt the existence of superpowers in the post Cold War era altogether, stating that today's complex global marketplace and the rising interdependency between the world's nations has made the concept of a superpower an idea of the past and that the world is now multipolar
     
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    Super-Power is anyone with the following attributes:
    a)One who can do whatever one wants.
    b)One who can make others do whatever one wants.

    So, in the real world, there would be no absolute super-powers. The world is relative, so the powers and super-powers are also relative in nature. China would want to be the more-powerful country in the world and most powerful country in the region...similar to US' role.

    To gain the this relative power-superiority, one would need technical superiority, financial strength, military might, social stability, cultural influence...etc etc.
     
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    China's geographical position sucks ! In the sea it's challenged by many nations (Japan, Korea) on land it's bordered by large nations (Russia, India).

    Compared to that, America dominates an entire continent ! China may become a superpower, but not a hyper-power like the US
     
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    I actually like the idea that in todays world, USA is the "Hyperpower" with several "Superpower" centers emerging around the world ... like the BRIC nations, the EU combine, the Japan-SK-SEATO alliance (if it ever comes to being).
    However, Tech might alone does not make a Superpower (Japan anyone?). Most important is economic strength, followed by technology, political system and military power.
     
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    very well said.....................
     
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    Chinese shouldn't take Kissinger seriously. His vision can't reach beyond Israel, eastwards. He failed as a foreign affairs consultant to the White House during the Vietnam conflict, where America lost badly, his directions as the NSA to Nixon failed to support Pakistan during the 1971 war. So overall, his credentials with understanding Asia are questionable. As long as China avoids war with its neighbours, and maintains status quo, cultural and economic exchanges, it will fare very well. America will inevitably use China's neighbours against it (evident from some of the quotes of Kissinger in this article), but at least neighbours like India will not fall into that proxy trap (the recent refusal of Super Hornets proves that). China must appreciate this development and encourage peace with India. America cannot have a balance to China without India, and India chose to not be a part of that chain. Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines and Japan alone can't do squat to China. America can't convince Russia to do squat.
     
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  17. Tianshan

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    yes China economy is a farce and we will collapse, blah blah.

    you're right, no one should envy us.

    which is why the Indian government is silly to do so.

    FT.com / Asia-Pacific - China’s progress provokes border envy in India

    on topic... kissinger is correct, China will not and should not become "superpower".
     
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    Quite opposite to what you've described, the word 'superpower' carries quite a negative meaning (from the cold war) in chinese and thus is almost never used by chinese themselves. At the same time, it appears in virtually every discussion on every indian forum. This very much illustrates the difference in mind set between chinese/east asians and indians/south asians. Chinese are happy with what they've achieved this far, and where they stand now and what the future holds for them, while indians, out of frustruation with the reality, are resorting increasingly to self mind-mastubation.
     
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    you are deeply mistaken Kissinger is the most hated Jew for Israeli nationalists (like me)
    he prevented the destruction of the Egyptian army in 1973 thous preventing us from achieving ultimate victory
    (like 1967)
    our worst problems arise from American Jews that turn on Israel to prove their loyalty to America
     
  20. kickok1975

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    Agree, China should keep peace with her neighbours and grow together. India has been our good neighbour for thousands year. There is no reason for a bad relationship between these two countries. In an old Chinese saying" A relative living far away is not as good as a neighbour living nearby"
     
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    All of Kissingers foreign policies are blunders and he never got anything right! Fat chance he would get it right at his death bed! LMAO..

    China is already an economic power to recon with.

    Will China one day spend 700billion on defense like US? They already spend 100 billion and by the year 2030 it would be nearly 500billion.

    All this said China wont be able to match US technology and power, thanks to NATO.
     

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