Kiss of Lust and moral policing

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  1. Srinivas_K

    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    Kiss of Lust and moral policing

    We managed to get you a dissenting voice amidst the noise of populist rhetoric, from the 'Kiss of Love' event. The one where a bunch of people would lock their lips and make out right on the road. We tried to find out why she is upset about the whole thing. Excerpts follow:

    ShankhNaad: Kissing is all about love, why are you against it? Is it about Hindutva or Indian culture and all that?

    Anonymous Lady (AL): No it's nothing to do with our religion or culture. On the contrary, the closest a religion gets to be supportive of personal liberty - is Hinduism. Remember-the authors of Kama Sutra were neither stoned in public nor burnt at a stake.

    SN: ..then what's the deal with you protesting Kiss of Love?
    AL: This is simply about public decency. I as an adult can still ignore this degradation and move on but what I'm concerned about is our kids and adolescents. Do we really want them exposed to such lusty behaviour at the age when they should rather be concentrating on studies and sports instead? This is their age when an individual builds their character.The west allowed this disgusting behaviour in the name of liberty and saw their 12 year olds getting pregnant. They're ashamed of it and are making amends while we here remain largely ignorant.
    Tell me, do we want to weaken the foundation of our youth, just to satisfy some self-proclaimed liberal's propaganda?

    SN: Well.. Can’t argue that one. But you know what they say... "In India, pissing in public is allowed, kissing is not"
    AL: Nothing could be more absurd. What do you mean allowed? Is there a govt. scheme that says "join our pissing squad, earn a proud living”?

    SN: But we do find people pissing on the street all the time. Don’t we?
    AL: Not in the middle of a road, displaying one's organs. Even an illiterate beggar knows better. Whoever does, tries to find as secluded a place as possible, in some dark place away from public view and only when there is no public urinal around. Also, pissing can only be suppressed for some time before you have to go. On the contrary, kissing is not something you have to do. It’s not like your lips are bursting or anything. And since when did two wrongs start making one right? if there is one practice reflecting bad civic sense, shall we add one more to it?

    SN: Alright but isn't kissng in public is a common practice in the west. The developed nations, the first world?
    AL: If you cared to notice it's never more than a casual peck on the cheeks, unless one is drunk or stoned. Go to those nations and you'll find their TV/Cinema content is rated based on whether it's suitable for kids or not. Kids are never exposed to sexual undertones, nudity etc.
    Even among adults, when people start getting too intimate there goes an expression "get a room, you two!". This is nothing but a soft way of saying "your public display of affection is annoying. We’d prefer if you take it to a private place".
    Also, having said that, why should we copy everything that west does? The west has progressed because of their hard work and dedication not on some baseless liberal sh*t. Sexuality and nudity has only taken them backwards with broken families, massive divorce rates and suicide among lonely old people. If you have to copy the west, copy their civic sense, hard work and dedication... not their trash.

    SN: We got your point. So you believe this in an unnecessary and obscene practice
    AL: Exactly. You can see this even among animals. Look at a dog, no sense of self pride it mates out in the open. A human society should endeavour to evolve towards a higher plane.
    They say they should be allowed to kiss on roads because it's their body and they're not hurting anybody. Tomorrow they'll say they can walk around naked, have sex on the open streets because again - it's their body and they're not hurting anyone. Right?
    Excuse me for drawing a line at a point when it's crossing over from annoying to plain wrong.

    SN: One last question, actually it's theirs. Why don't you protest female foeticide, dowry, rapes etc. as well? Why protest only kissing?
    AL: thank you for twisting my words. I'm not against kissing or even kiss of love. A mother kissing her child is love, same for siblings or even close friends. But two adults locking lips is nothing but lust. I am against that display of lust on our roads. Is this not the reason why one opposes eve teasing? Eve teasing is another display of lust, albeit one sided. I have always protested the issues that you mentioned but here is something special about the kiss of lust.
    A person killing his/her unborn child knows he's wrong. So is a rapist, or one asking for a dowry. When caught they can't justify it. Even when it wasn't illegal - people didn't come out and say "yeah so we killed our unborn girl yesterday".

    However in this case, people seem to be proud of it. As if this was the last stone between them and true liberty. And a person like me opposing this on genuine grounds is seen as conservative. This thrusting of fake-liberties down our throats is what I call moral policing.
    "You must follow us or you're old fashioned". Thanks but no thanks, I don't need their validation. I have a perfect sense of what's right what's wrong.

    SN: Thanks. Suppose it’s time to leave. Thanks for your inputs
    AL: You're welcome

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    Interesting counter perspective. I must admit the "Anonymous Lady" made some sensible points. But I have a sneaking feeling ShankhNaad did not really go to any "anonymous lady", but just generated the questions and answers on their own. :)

    That said, all this unnecessary controversy and waste of energy can be avoided if the cow-piss connoisseurs keep their hands off young couples and stop their so-called "moral policing". This charade that they have been indulging in for years - beating young couples, browbeating and intimidating youngsters, etc. has to stop.

    There are a million things that they can contribute towards in a meaningful way to enrich and popularize Hinduism. These morons are just giving Hinduism a bad name, associating Hinduism with "conservatism" and backwardness, and giving rise to extreme counter reactions like "kiss of love". I hope the BJP reins in these vanara senas and does not allow the national discourse to be hijacked by all this nonsense talk of "moral policing", "liberalism", and so on.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    Both parties are doing extreme.

    This conservatism was pushed on India by invaders who put women in Burqa.

    This PDA is stupid and if we think we would become liberal with PDA then it's a stupid idea.Even the west has realized that their culture is degraded enough to a point of no return but how can "Indians" stop copying what Wests does.
     
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    Anonymous lady ... ahem, that's so believable.:rolleyes:

    Anyway, rss goons protest kissing in public....but not pissing in public. Weird.
     
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    There isn't much difference between you and vanara sena. The filth that you throw out on the internet ... these rss goons are doing it in real life.
     
  7. Bangalorean

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    Blab and cry as much as you want, you are losing. The likes of you are already marginalized to a great extent, and will be completely marginalized soon. The only option that remains to you would be to become a suicide bomber and get your 72.

    Either learn how to behave and step in line, or you will be forced to go and get your 72.

    RSS seems like a cuddly and lovable bunch compared to the likes of you. An RSS man will probably abuse or intimidate, at worst. The likes of you constantly blow yourself up. Give me the RSS anyday.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    RSS Rocks!!!


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    You just proved my point. Thank you.

    Some renowned journalist remarked that there are too many internet Hindus .... and that in real life they'd hide behind their moms' saris.:lol: Maybe she was describing Bangalorean.
     
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    The uniform leaves a lot to be desired.:rofl:

    Seriously, if these hindutva goons really cared about culture and Indian women, maybe they should start by preventing rape/harassment against Indian women? Female infanticide? Dowry?
     
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    Those who talk of RSS "goons" and moral police are too much in a make belief world. They in fact have neither seen nor experienced real moral policing. Try this kiss of love in Kashmir. Even a womens; rock band got banned there. Is there any Valentine day there? Not at all. Days before that islamic goons search the Archies to purge them of "objectionable" material.

    Very curious thing happened. There were only a very few "love kisses" observed in that crowd. Wo,men knew that videos were being mad3e and were afraid lest their parents/ brothers see them kissing the boy friends that too in public!!!

    Ever since CCTV were installed in pubs, women are scarce in the pubs.
    No courage? Or convictions were too weak to face the cameras?

    PS: Kam Sutra is neither porn nor sleaze. It is as dry as Sushruta's surgery treatise. Try to read it.
     
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    rock127 Maulana Rockullah Senior Member

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    If you are not scared then why Pakis like you cry of "RSS RSS RSS" with each of their breadth.These guys kick your ass with the lathi even in your dream. :lol:

    You are now trolling yourself DimwitPaki. :rofl:
     
  13. Bangalorean

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    No Paki, you are proving my point with every post you make and every word you utter with your PakIslamic mouth.

    We are realizing, by looking at your mentality and attitude, that the likes of you don't deserve any sympathy or help or opportunities. You need to be ostracized, discriminated and boycotted. Systematically, by civil society. Till you learn to behave yourself and fall in line, your situation will only worsen. Serves you right.
     

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