'Kill Ahmadis' leaflets found in UK mosque

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    Leaflets calling for the killing of a sect of Muslims have been found in a south London mosque.

    Piles of the flyers, which say Ahmadis should face death if they refuse to convert to mainstream Islam, were displayed in Stockwell Green mosque.

    The leaflet was authored by an ex-head of Khatme Nabuwwat, a group which lists the mosque as its "overseas office".

    A mosque trustee said he had never seen the leaflets before and suggested they were fakes or left there maliciously.

    Minority communities in Pakistan have become targets of sectarian violence, and some fear that could spread to the UK, encouraged by organisations like the Islamic missionary group Khatme Nabuwwat, and others.

    Khatme Nabuwwat believes Ahmadis are apostates, commonly defined as people who have abandoned their religion.

    Those who refuse to convert to mainstream Islam within three days should face a "capital sentence" - or death penalty, according to the leaflets.

    The constitution of Pakistan bans members of the sect from referring to themselves as Muslims.

    The leaflets, authored by Yusuf Ludhianvi and written in English, were found arranged in piles on a desk next to a shoe-rack, the usual place to display literature in mosques.




    Documents from the Charity Commission show Khatme Nabuwwat lists Stockwell mosque in south London as its office, the BBC has also learned.

    Four trustees of the charity listed in the documents manage the mosque, while two of the current owners of the mosque run centres affiliated to that group elsewhere in the UK.

    The mosque is also listed as an "overseas office" on the group's website for Khatme Nabuwwat.

    'Independent organisation'
    Stockwell Green mosque was first accused of helping to promote acts of terror and hate in Pakistan in 2011.

    At the time, mosque trustee Toaha Qureshi issued a vehement denial, saying the mosque's name had been "falsely used" on a website listed on hate literature advocating the murder of Ahmadis.

    He said: "We are very angry and furious about that. We do not have any linkage with this organisation that is promoting hate."

    Asked about this latest discovery of leaflets and alleged links between the mosque and Khatme Nabuwwat, Mr Qureshi said: "There is a link that we only need when we need some guidance or literature on that particular issue, then we seek advice from them.

    "We have not published any pamphlet of that kind. This is nothing to do with our mosque. Someone might have put it there and taken from there with malicious intentions," he added.

    Who are the Ahmadis?
    • A minority Islamic sect founded in 1889, Ahmadis believe their own founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who died in 1908, was a prophet
    • This is anathema to most Muslims who believe the last prophet was Muhammad, who died in 632
    • Most Ahmadi followers live in the Indian subcontinent
    • Ahmadis have been the subject of sectarian attacks and persecution in Pakistan and elsewhere
    • In 1974 the Pakistani government declared the sect non-Muslim
    Referring to sectarian attacks on Ahmadis in Pakistan, he added: "Whatever happened in Pakistan, that has got nothing to do with me or with the Stockwell mosque.

    "What we are saying is Stockwell mosque is an independent organisation. It does not take a dictation by anybody else."

    Khatme Nabuwwat has never been implicated in an attack but has been criticised for encouraging violence towards members of the sect.

    "Khatme Nabuwwat do not inflict violence themselves, but they provide an enabling environment for a number of actors to do so," said Saroop Ijaz from Human Rights Watch.

    "There are enough violent groups in Pakistan, enough radical population in Pakistan, that if accusation is made enough times and loudly enough - that is murder. Khatme Nabuwwat do this with the very clear desire of leading to that outcome."

    'Enabling environment'
    Dr James Caron, from the School of Oriental and African Studies in London, said: "Khatme Nabuwwat is a one-issue outfit and that one issue is anti-Ahmadi sentiment.

    "However, anti-Ahmadi sentiment is much larger than the Khatme Nabuwwat movement."

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    "That hate is spreading in the UK. We have seen incidents here and in different areas.

    "There have been leaflets distributed in shops, certain hotels have openly announced they will not serve Ahmadis, different clerics inciting in their Friday sermons against Ahmadis."

    He was caught up in the 2010 attack on an Ahmadi mosque while on business in the Pakistani city of Lahore when gunmen fired and threw grenades indiscriminately, killing 93 people.

    "The guy sitting next to me - I can never forget him", he said. "He was wearing all white dress and it went red. There was another guy sitting with his little daughter, and he was trying to cover his daughter to save her and he was shot."

    He added: "It's lucky that that kind of incident that happened in Lahore hasn't happened here yet but if it carries on like this, it's not very far."

    'False prophet'
    This all comes after the killing of Ahmadi shopkeeper Asad Shah, in Glasgow last month, which police claimed was "religiously prejudiced".

    Tanveer Ahmed, 32, from Bradford, who is accused of his murder, said he killed Mr Shah because he disrespected Islam and falsely claimed to be a prophet.

    While there is no suggestion Khatme Nabuwwat was involved in the killing, two videos on a video-hosting channel with the same name as the group described Mr Shah as a "false prophet" in 2014.

    Mr Ahmed has made no plea, and is remanded in custody until his next court appearance.

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    thakedari of islam and paki chutiyapa continuous in foreign land as well

    best solution is any paki who dont follow law of land should be kicked out.

    once few are kicked out of west ,rest of pakis in west will be law obedient as 95% lives on social benefits in west
    if they kicked out who will feed them ???

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    @Zarvan

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    why pakistanis even care ? Islam is an Arabic Religion not Pakistani !
     
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    Today whole Europe is on the mission to find the Poris out , Kick their @$$ and send them back to Porkistan.

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...-return-thousands-illegal-pakistani-migrants/
     
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    kya baat kar raha ha yaar. pakis got copyright for thakedari of islam in west.

    99% mosque in UK are pakis.

    mulla in Scotland who praise qadri who killed Lahore governor was paki

    another paki from bradford drove to scotland to kill ahmediya shopkeeper in Scotland

    7/7 london bomber were pakis.


    tu bhai so raha tha abhi tak:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
     
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    i sometimes feel sorry for punjabis, they lost their land to half breeds, their capital is also in pakistan. and their brothers are behaving like slaves or bootlickers of Arabs. :(

    i have haryanvi ancestry bro. even i have soft corner for those misguided Pakis.
     
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    I feel sorry for you because you are also a result of aryan invasions. Haryanvis are aryan products. White caucasian bi-products with Iranian influence.
    Pakistanis loves Religion Islam and Mecca and Medina are in Arabia so thats why you feel that we love arabs.
    Educate yourself.
    I feel sorry for you because aryans did something really bad.
    South indians are african products migrated from africa.
     
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    Its really bad to see idiot muslims threatening qadianis. If qadianis claiming that they are muslim then let them say that. Muslims are not the authority to claim who is muslim and who is not although qadianis are not right in their understanding.
    Qadianis are divided into many. One belives that Mirza Ghulam was not a prophet and he just claim prophethood and Imamate and Messiah just to intreprete or want to mean that no imam nor messiah will come so he just ridicule the theory by doing it.
    NOTE: Mirza claimed that he is Imam Mahdi and also Reincarnation of Messiah and also Kalki Autar.
     
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    dumbo skin colour has nothing to do with race india has a whole is classified as caucasian that include dravadians south indians to ,those african looking indians are tribals & They are proud indians with living & intellectual standards better than goat fucker nordic muzi from land of pure
     
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    haryana was part of punjab before 60ties :biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2: technically u r a punjabi
     
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    and pakis came from MARS dropped by C-130 in 14 aug 1947:daru::daru::daru::daru:
     
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    I have aryan blood average brahmin have 60% to 85% R1a alone, we are not even counting M.

    so sweetie dont worry about me even after 5000+ years we are still here. :)

    iraninas are nothing more than fake aryans they lost their aryan blood by Mixing with with every type of asian tey found on West Asia.

    yes, Iranins did something wrong with your ancestors thats why u guys look like Half Breeds :D
     
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    by linage and blood and Tribe/clan :D :basanti:
     
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    Haryanavis are your daddies. Mahara lekai check karega sai? :biggrin2:
     
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