Keran: Now, Pak troops force India to end construction work

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  1. TrueSpirit

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    Pakistani troops have forced Indian authorities to end construction work on a model village project near the frontier town of Keran, saying it violates the terms of the 2003 ceasefire agreement with India. Highly placed Jammu and Kashmir government sources have said that, troops at Pakistani forward positions broadcast warnings over loudspeakers at about 5 pm on Monday, saying they would not be responsible for the consequences if the work went ahead. Local authorities stopped work soon thereafter. Jammu and Kashmir government sources said, the work included building a community hall and some minor public facilities some 200 metres from the Kishanganga river—known as the Neelum in Pakistan—which runs along the Line of Control. Keran recently saw intense fighting, after Pakistani troops were alleged to have occupied small stretches of territory and border observation posts running along a ridge over the abandoned village of Shalabhatta. The intrusion was announced to have cleared after a fortnight—long military operation, but reports have suggested three Indian military outposts were only secured a week after that.

    This latest stand—off comes amidst a sharp increase in ceasefire violations, with Indian and Pakistani troops exchanging non—stop fire in the southern stretches of their frontier in Jammu and Kashmir in recent days. Indian diplomatic sources say the November 2003 ceasefire was based on an unwritten agreement, which in essence stipulated that neither side would reinforce its fortifications along the LoC — a measure first agreed to after the 1971 war. In 2006, the two sides exchanged drafts for a formal agreement. Since then, the sources said, negotiations have stalled over differing ideas on what kind of construction is permissible. However, the Keran model village stand—off marks the first instance in which Pakistan has questioned India’s right to engage in civilian construction works on its side of the Line of Control. In October last year, violent skirmishes broke out in Charunda, near Uri, after a confrontation over new Indian military construction in the area. Pakistan’s Director-General of Military Operations complained about Indian construction work around Charunda, in Uri. His Indian counterpart, Lieutenant-General Vinod Bhatia, however, responded that India’s works were purely intended to prevent illegal border crossings. The unresolved dispute led to exchanges of fire, which eventually escalated into shelling and the killings of soldiers on both sides. India insists that it needs to expand counter-infiltration infrastructure because of escalating operations by jihadist groups across the LoC. Indian and Pakistani diplomats last met on December 2, 2012, to discuss the draft agreement, but could make no headway.

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    Very unfortunate development but not unexpected in light of recent revelations about the -----s in our Defence apparatus.

    @Ray Sir @Decklander Sir @pkroyal @Singh @Yusuf @sayareakd @sob @Virendra @pmaitra

    If such construction was in violation of Ceasefire agreement, why did IA initiate it in the first place ? If not in violation, what does this backtracking indicate ? What are we heading towards ?

    Are we missing something (in reading) between the lines ?

    Is there a method to recent Paki madness or, the broth is temporary, to fizzle out soon with onset of winter (& snowfall) ?

    Is there any silver lining in sight ?
     
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  3. lion

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    our ministers are shitting...
    we should have to set an example by punishing pakistan.....
    Wtf...
     
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    What the hell, they should ignore them and continue with their work. The retards have the audacity to encroach and send terrorists inside our territory, and have caused more than 200 violations. And now they talk about agreements? We cant be held responsible for consequences either...
     
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    Parveen Swami is a Pakisani rat who is not only speaking for them but I bet giving them tips how to work against Indian army. Not to mention the kind of mud he is defecating in this environment of increased Pakistani hostilities in the back drop of new Pakistani government using all its diplomatic might to internationalize Kashmir Issue speaks volume on where his loyalties lies.

    He is trying to float same lame stories like he did when justified Paki cowards beheading because of some thing constructed 12 months ago.

    There are video proves of newly constructed buildings which came about on Pakistani side in last 4-5 years being target by InA recently (after provocation) used by Pakistan as launch pads of terrorists. Now some Swami hindu traitor is telling Indians how we have been failing on all accounts but he himself not failing to do Pakistani propaganda.
     
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    @Singh Any comments ?
     
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    Way back in 1993, Kaiyan Bowl ( KB) was part of 16 Sector, our "Jangi" ( battle hardened ) brethren know which area of J & K. is being described. A Sikh battalion was deployed in that area. For a protracted period ,heavy exchange of fire between Paki posts and posts held by troops of this battalion on our side went on, More than a lakh rounds of ammunition had been expended by both sides trying to gain ascendency in that area. Provocation was, as the Sikh battalion was newly inducted and was constantly improving its defences. ( using cement to strengthen its bunkers / sangars , deepening the communication trenches etc. The Pakis surely hated this. and went on a nerve racking fire from across, including use of HMG. ( one of the slugs that had hit the officers mess was kept on the mess centre table as a souvenier). Yours truly by chance was on a liaison visit to this unit. After self along with the CO of the unit had visited all the forward posts ( one as near as 70 meters from the Paki post ) while on our way back to the Battalion HQ we got the news that a Jawan of the unit had been shot in the crossfire. The CO was livid, swearing revenge immediately. After we discussed the pros and cons and we mulled over an old Afghan saying " revenge is best served when it is cold ". next morning around 50 of us gathered fully exposed next to a Pir Baba,s mazar in that area. We gave an honorable funeral to our slain hero, cremating him in situ in KB, the funeral was over by about 1500h. At about 1645h our Snipers and MMG boys reported six Paki casualties all near the water points which were easily identifiable. Four to Five long bursts of MMG towards a small village on the Paki side where it was common knowledge that the families of troops deployed on the posts came & stayed for short duration also helped in the effort. From that day till that battalion was relieved not a single shot was ever heard in KB.

    Lessons learnt :-
    1. Newly inducted battalions must seize the initiative and maintain moral ascendency by improving defences, patrolling, 'tit for tat' fire assaults and at times initiating fire assaults on their festival days.

    2. Do not flinch to cause collateral damage in their civilian areas, as for sure none of our personnel will be contesting an election on Paki soil . So no votes required.

    3. Some unit commanders seem to be" looking over their shoulders" for orders to emanate from the 'Oracle" or the Wizard of Oz. Retaliate in self defence in good measure to save your troop casualties.

    4. Every time there is no need to be the punching bag, on grand occasions like Eid, 14 Aug etc, let us also initiate some fireworks to celebrate the occassion.

    5. Lastly we must never let the dead remain a part of the Sit Rep( Situation Report to higher HQ's) only. Unit should clarify how and in what time frame they will get even or better on the business of head count.
     
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    The only thing Praveen Swami could be accused of, is being an Indian Intel Propagandist.
     
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    So, what is the raison d'être of comments from @hit&run ?
     

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