Kaveri Engine

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  1. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    Nearly 1.5 months ago, I'd an update that Safran-GTRE ready to ship Safranized kaveri to france for testing.
    Hope, They did the same and we may expect some info from overseas...
    Atleast, you may except LCA with Kaveri for a static display at AI19
    KO and I10 is different story anyways..
     
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  2. patriots

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    bro u r our last hope,our source
    I HV stopped reading defense articles after that article on tejas
     
  3. kamaal

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    Everything about this post makes me optimistic about this joint development.

    But unfortunately nothing is seen on the ground yet, this for me is just another blah blah from Pari.

    I'll never believe on such post until it is seen by naked eyes.
     
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    haha that post^ from parikrama is fake and kaveri in f16?
    not possible f16 uses ge f110 engine with weight of 1700kg!!!
    our kaveri is 1200kg may be less kaveri is very small compared to f110
    f110 can be compared with al31fp
     
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  5. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    That parikrama bastard is a fake news source. That entire IDF is filled with Porkies who only do stunts and gimmicks. Ask questions and see how they falter.
     
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  7. SanjeevM

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    Since we involved French on Kaveri, did India totally stop fixing Kaveri by itself? Are we in parallel to French working on Kaveri are also trying to fix Kaveri ourselves?

    If we want to be indigenous manufacturing aircraft, we also need to invest in state of art engine testing facilities rather than depending on French or Russia to test our engines. It would be a one time investment.

    If we are also trying to fix Kaveri ourselves, French will feel competition and may try to fix Kaveri faster.
     
  8. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    French didn't give any ToT in engine but gave consultancy. India is fixing the engine by itself with French experts who are giving guidance, answering questions and helping in fine tuning it by proper alignment and adjustments.

    It is just a substitute for trial and error fine tuning by Indians, not ToT. As france said, India had completed 75% of engine and the last mile problems were remaining.

    About whether India has built testing facilities, I don't know. Some other people have to tell
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    Both are running in parallel... As of now...
     
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    source plz kindly tell in brief
     
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    Well we are putting up new test facility which can test engines up to 130-150 Kn
     
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    with current technological development in India
    we will not be able to develop any critical technology.

    and that cryogenic engine was all Russian model..
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    My source about kaveri is from GTRE, Banglore.
    Will not reveal anything extra about him. Its all upto you to believe on update or not...

    Good Day...
     
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  15. SanjeevM

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    I hope we are successful ourselves before French declaration that Kaveri is ready with their core.
     
  16. TPFscopes

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    1. Plan to introduce the m88 core in Kaveri-GTX is not a permanent solution for a indigenous engine.
    2. M88 core is opted to urgently reduce the reliability on imported engines. (I'm point out f404 for mk1a), It(JV) will be converted into further joint projects.
    3. Totally indigenous Kaveri-GTX is on its way and introducing next gen tech (like Single crystal blade tech) developed by various DRDO labs like DMRL etc.
    4. Before Safran help, GTRE managed to get sustained 65-70% of power at low altitudes and about 60-65% at high altitudes. For further throttle, it produce unstable power and vibrations. Peak power achieved in some of the ground tests is ~82kn but its not stable.
    5. Further few months are crucial for Safran/GTRE kaveri.
     
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  17. Kshithij

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    Why bring cryogenic engine here? What is the evidence you have to make the statement you made?
     
  18. Steven Rogers

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    Oh please don't make statements which you can't back. India bought some technology from Ukraine in 2005s was related to semi cryogenic engine. Just Fast breeder reactor, cryogenic is all Indian, and with current tech India can put a decent engine with t2w equal to Ej200 and M88 but will require design from scratch and will take more than a decade to fly fit. Meanwhile Kaveri engine achieved its initial requirements here in India only, French investment is in enhancing the engine performance.

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    BS!

    I know how scientists visited many places to get it working. Let's not go to that point.

    And I don't need to present any evidence.

    Chapter closed.
     
  20. Kshithij

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    Do you know that breeder reactor is a huge source of high grade plutonium at the expense of U238? Are you saying that Ukraine will sell such a thing to India?

    It was reverse engineered from Russian cryogenic engine with some indigenous technology development. Don't act oversmart. Similarly, turbofan engine also was first made by Germany in WW2. The allies took it and developed further. Now, India is developing its own technology by taking cues from other engines and also its its own. Kaveri is a flat rated engine which other countries don't use
     

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