Kashmir and Telangana are not part of India: Kavitha

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    Kashmir and Telangana are not part of India : Kavitha

    It is proved that TRS president K.chandrasekhar rao’s family are Anti-Andhras with their actions and statements on several occasions But now it seems like KCR family have turned into Anti- Indians.

    KCR has appointed Pakistani citizen Sania Mirza Malik as ambassador of Telangana and paid 1 crore check to her. Sania lives in Dubai & Pakistan. He did not consider Saina Nehwal of Hyderabad.

    KCR’s daughter Kavitha said, Kashmir and Telangana have been ‘forcibly’ merged with Indian Union after Independence. Few parts were not ours, we should agree, we should redraw the international lines and move on, said Kavitha.

    One should not be surprised , If KCR’s family once again start a second agitation for a separate country called ‘Telangana’.

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    TRUE SECULAR INDIAN , THERE IS NO UPROAR IN PARLIAMENT WHY??:hail::hail: WHAT IS TH PUNISHMENT FOR JOKERS LIKE THESE???
     
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    That's not what she said. She said as on 1947, Hyderabad State and Kashmir were not part of the Indian Union, and both were added as a result of military action by India. That, by no means, discredits India's acquisition of the two territories; or distorts the circumstances under which the two were added.

    She said that in the context of the fact that after its acquisition, India trifurcated Hyderabad State on linguistic lines, and didn't allow the Telugu speaking part (Telangana) to govern itself (as a state), but instead merged it with the better-educated, better-monied Andhra, to create Andhra Pradesh. In doing that, India replaced theological colonization with economic colonization.

    Hindus of Hyderabad State, who were under brutal oppression by the Muslim regime, fought to get the land annexed by India. Hindus provided intelligence and logistics to Indian Army. When the Army showed up, it was butter vs. hot knife. Hindus of Hyderabad heated that knife. But instead of rewarding us with self-rule within the Union, India tied us with Andhra. Both Hindus and Muslims of Telangana lost. It was a raw deal.
     
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    Why are people posting silly memes and distorted propaganda drivel from dubious sources in serious forums?

    Earlier, we had another one posted about P. Chidambaram meeting a Taliban Ambassador to Pakistan, with a whole lot of distorted fiction.

    Can members be a bit responsible before posting?

    Thread closed.
     
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    Our Sedition laws are impotent. None in USA can even breathe of such a thing about Alaska Texas etc and expect to walk free. Such is their Patriot Act.
     
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    But as per @tarunraju post this might be case of misinterpretation as well , again being booked politicians will use this for popularity & creating sympathy in india no major action will be taken against her , What action have we taken on the dumb head which interviewed hafiz saeed and talks about trying to change brutal terrorist :facepalm:


    That's not what she said. She said as on 1947, Hyderabad State and Kashmir were not part of the Indian Union, and both were added as a result of military action by India. That, by no means, discredits India's acquisition of the two territories; or distorts the circumstances under which the two were added.

    She said that in the context of the fact that after its acquisition, India trifurcated Hyderabad State on linguistic lines, and didn't allow the Telugu speaking part (Telangana) to govern itself (as a state), but instead merged it with the better-educated, better-monied Andhra, to create Andhra Pradesh. In doing that, India replaced theological colonization with economic colonization.

    Hindus of Hyderabad State, who were under brutal oppression by the Muslim regime, fought to get the land annexed by India. Hindus provided intelligence and logistics to Indian Army. When the Army showed up, it was butter vs. hot knife. Hindus of Hyderabad heated that knife. But instead of rewarding us with self-rule within the Union, India tied us with Andhra. Both Hindus and Muslims of Telangana lost. It was a raw deal.
     
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    If this might be case of misinterpretation, then in what context did J&K and Telangana come into the speech/ statement?

    As I see it, there is no comparison between the two states.
     
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    Why she mentioned Jammu? Problem is only in Kashmir. Jammuites are hindus and more pro India than most Indians.
     
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    This statement is after her alleged seditious statement.

    from the article itself

    Which ( police case) is again one week after the court directed Police to do so.

     
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    Let me quote what she said.

    What were factually incorrect in her statement, is well mentioned in the below article.

    History distorted? But beware Telangana outsider survey : South, News - India Today

    But, it would be unfair not quote the below explicitly.

     
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    Her big talk now does not wash.
     
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    Okey. So Indian Army should fight and liberate them, and then India should also give them special status. Why? If there special status of self-rule should have been accepted, why not special status for every single state that exists today? As per those morons the Union of India should not have been but separate states vulnerable to any outside threat.

    If this is not sedition, what is?

    I would say give them self-rule and seperate them from Union absolutely with punitive export duties. Lets see how long they can starve!!!!
     
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    Kavitha Said

    "Jammu and Kashmir and Telangana were both formed forcefully and at the same time annexed to the Indian union. When I say I feel strongly, it’s because we were both separate countries, but were merged with the Indian union after independence. In 1947, we were not a part of India. After 1947, we became a part of India. Then the troubles really started. None of our people were very rich before. So it’s from the people’s perspective that I’ve started reading about Jammu and Kashmir. We need to solve issues, particularly the Kashmiri Pandits’ issue which is put up in the agenda of the BJP. They say we can all take them back home, but it is just a political statement. You have to create a safe environment before you take them there. We need to come out clean on Jammu and Kashmir. Few parts were not ours, we should agree, we should redraw the international lines, and move on. Development is suffering and you see frequent bombings. Our economy takes a toll. Even in the Budget, almost R2.50 lakh crore has been allotted to defence. If we have a peaceful environment in our bordering states, we don’t have to spend so much on defence. We can spend that money on education, women’s development or sanitation. Today, if I talk about no bathrooms in girls’ schools, I should be ashamed of myself being a citizen of this country."

    I personally think the highlighted portion is the one which is causing the Sedition charges .
     
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    If this woman has said this, then she is an idiot.

    If she was in a fundamentalist country, she would ahve been horse whipped. She is lucky that she is in India.

    They would not have redrawn the international boundary but redrawn her physical features especially her and her father's grotesquely formed oversized nose.

    Has she forgotten Doctrine of Lapse? Where was her ancestors when Hyderabad had a Resident who actually dictated terms?
     
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    The comments which i copied is from @tarunraju post , i have simple question Kavitha madam is Telengana MP she should just stick to telengana issue bring kashmir into it shows the dual politics for popularity

    Hyderabad was taken over by Army on orders of Sardar Vallabhai patel , Kashmir acceded to india as per the papers signed by hari singh later pakis marched into valley until orders were passed to indian army to throw them out again by Sardar Vallabhai patel inspite of reluctance shown by nehru & lord mountbatten

    Hence only Army and Sir Sardar vallabhai patel who is no more have rights to talk about both state taking over by force etc etc , not some any other jokers like kavitha
     
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    My comment was not aimed at you or your post, rather at that moron MP of Telengana.

    Anyway, the fact of the matter is whether India occupied Hyderabad state or Hari Singh signed some documents - is irrelevant in today's date. Today Telengana is a Indian state as well as J&K. If somebody doesn't like that fact, we can string them up alongside the Maoists and terrorists in J&K.
     
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