Kalki-The Tenth Avatar of Vishnu

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    Gentlemen, As some members wanted a separate thread for the Kalki-Tenth Avatar of Lord Vishnu to discuss and share views. I have posted it here and to start with I will share the portions from Bible about kalki who is referred to as third anti christ in Bible,
    The Third Antichrist has been often referred to as a political or religious leader or even a military dictator. This is a somewhat modest description of a personality who has been time and again described in the Bible and by other prophets. This person is going to trigger off events which are going to change the course of the history of humanity. This is man chosen by destiny to correct the course of humanity. The Third Antichrist, who probably fits description of Kalki Avatar, will in all probability be the third trigger who will change the course of history. The first being Jesus Christ, the second the Prophet Mohammad or Adolph Hitler, the third is awaited. The Antichrist is probably the the 10th and final manifestation of Lord Vishnu.
    I had posted links for kalki Purana yesterday and It very clearly talks of war between the forces of JIN and Kalki, something similar has been stated in Bible,

    Bible which describes the war between the armies of the Antichrist and China; this will be a war which will bring great destruction to mankind.

    REVELATION 16.12.14
    Prophet John
    “And the sixth angel poured out his bowl of wrath upon the great river Euphrates,and the water thereof was dried up, and the way of the kings of the east might be prepared…to gather them to the battle of that great day of god Almighty”

    This bible prophecy is descriptive of China as the country which will challenge the Antichrist, China as everyone can see is one country which has made all round progress in the past few years and with its vast resources and manpower will most certainly make more and more progress and this will ultimately lead to conflict with the Antichrist who will try to control the whole world and will most probable find China as a major stumbling block.

    Daniel 11.44 “But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him..therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy and utterly take away many’’
    This is another bible prophecy which clearly describes the Antichrist and his war to get complete control over the world and in doing so of the inevitable conflict with China which will be the only country to challenge him along with some Northern country.

    6th TRUMPET Rev. 9.13-18
    “And the sixth angel,sounded,and I heard a voice…saying…loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four messengers were set a loose,which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men, And the number of the army of the horsemen was 200,000,000,and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions, and out of their mouths issued fire and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed”.

    Here though some of the references can be taken as symbolic it becomes clear that the reference is to modern times as the description of horses with heads of lion with fire and brimstone coming out of their mouths refers to as tanks, the one thirds of the world’s population can only mean China and its neighboring regions like India and SA. Here it is clear that the Antichrist sees China as the major threat in his world domination plan and he plans a major war against China, many Bible commentators have referred this prophecy as an Chinese invasion but I tent to disagree this refers to as an aggression against China. The aggression against China is planned as we can see here with great care over a long period of time.
     
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    Let us have a look at prophecies made by Nostradamus. Nostradamus has described a person born from the three water signs, as shaping global events in the future. The water or sea connection is obvious and for everyone to see. The Bible prophecy and the prophecy made by Nostradamus are referring to the same person. These prophecies are connected.

    Century-.I.50.
    Del'aquatiquetriplicitйnaistra,
    D'vnquiferaleIeudypoursafeste.
    Sonbruit, los, regne, sa puissance croistra,
    Par terre & mer,aux Oriens tempeste.
    Century - 1 -50
    From the three water signs will be born a man who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday. His renown, praise, rule and power will grow on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.

    The three water signs are the three water bodies of the Indian and Arabian Oceans and The Bay of Bengal which meet at Kanya Kumari at the southern most point in India. This is a very significant and important quatrain which describes the origins of The Third Antichrist. The Third Antichrist has to be someone who is a Hindu, this is so because Thursday is considered a holy day in the Hindu religion. Thursday is the day of Jupiter or Guru. None of the other religions celebrate Thursday as a holiday or a holy day.

    This is a related Quatrain, the sea connection is there. This Quatrain is also referring to the same person.
    Century -X. 96.
    Religion du nom des mers vaincra,
    Contre la secte fils Adaluncatif,
    Secte obstinée deplorée craindra,
    Des deux blessez par Aleph & Aleph.
    Century X -96 The Religion of the name of the seas will win out Against the sect of the son of Adaluncatif, The obstinate lamented sect will be afraid The two wounded by Aleph & Aleph.

    The only religion which is named after water is the Hindu religion named after the Sindu after which Hindustan begins this can also be taken as the Indian Ocean and the name India. The Indians will defeat the obstinate sects here Nostradamus uses the words sects not religions Aleph and Aleph means the Al Qaeda and such related groups which will take over power in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Hindu ruler will completely destroy them.
     
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    Nostradamus prophesies were used for propaganda.

    I remember they fit Saddam Hussein as the third anti christ and then Osama.

    Nazi Germany made up many prophesies and dropped them during the the battle of Britain from their bombers so that the local people would read and get terrorized about an impending German win
     
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    The destruction Pakistan by use of nuke force is described by Nostradamus as,
    the Prophecy coded in this particular Nostradamus Quatrain as that of the total Destruction of Punjab Province of Pakistan by way of Nuclear weapons.

    Century 6- 27.
    Dedans les isles de cinq fleuues à vn,
    Par le croissant du grand Chyren Selin :
    Par les bruynes de l'air fureur de l'vn,
    Six eschappez, cachez fardeaux de lyn.
    Within the Isles of five rivers to one, Through the expansion of the great 'Chyren Selin': Through the drizzles in the air the fury of one, Six escaped, hidden bundles of flax.
    The province of the Punjab in Pakistan is the only geographical entity in the world which fit the description of ‘Isles of five rivers to one’. This is an ancient name right from the time of the ancient Greek civilization which called it’ Pentapotamia’meaning an inland delta of five rivers flowing to become one. These five rivers are the Jhelum, the Chenab, the Ravi, the Sutlej, and the Beas, merge to form the Panjnad, which flows into the Indus. The word Punjab coined by the ancient Aryan civilization literally translated into English means Pun = 5 and ab = water, the land of the 5 water bodies.

    It refers to the wars of THE THIRD ANTICHRIST.But one thing of which is certain now is that the place earmarked for total destruction is the Punjab in Pakistan. The aftermath of this destruction is sure to greatly affect by way of nuclear radiation the Punjab state of India as well.

    The Punjab in Pakistan is the most populous province accounting to about 57% of the total population. It is also the most devolved and prosperous province. Punjabis dominate the Pakistani Army, Beaurocracy and Politics. In short no Punjab no Pakistan. ‘Through the drizzles in the air’ is as obvious description of nuclear rain as one can come across in the prophecies of Nostradamus. ‘Six escaped, hidden bundles of flax’is again a description of some persons surviving this devastating attack wearing NBC suits. This speaks of the sheer magnitude of this attack. Now the question of who launches this attack and why, if connected to a chain reaction there is every likelihood of desperate and massive attack by the Jihad groups which will provoke and give an opportunity to launch this attack.
     
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    This is what Nostradamus has to say about Kalki,

    Kalki Avatar will manifest when the balance between THE THREE FORCES OF GOD has tilted alarmingly in favor of the Destructive forces, this is what we are witnessing at the present moment, and the balance is rapidly changing with every passing day. There is bound to be destruction as the conflict between the forces of Darkness and Light is not going to be some sort local war or revolution. This will be widespread destruction and will mark the end of a cycle of consciousness and beginning of a new one.
    CENTURY X X.L.XXI
    La terre & l'air geleront si grand eau,
    Lors qu'on viendra pour ieudy venerer :
    Ce qui sera iamais ne feut si beau,
    Des quatre parts le viendront honorer,
    There will be a great freezing in
    the air and water when everyone
    come to pay homage on Thursday.
    He will not be as fair as his partners
    who come to pay homage,
    Nostradamus describes a dark man who becomes all powerful after a nuclear war the conclusion of which can be arrived the words great freezing in the water and air which signifies a successful nuclear strike and the dark man becomes feared as everyone wants to pay homage to him.

    CENTURY X X.I.XXV
    Tant attendu ne reuiendra iamais
    Dedans l'Europe, en Asie apparoistra
    Vn de la ligue yssu du grand Hermés,
    Et sur tous Roys des Orients croistra
    long awaited he will never appear in
    Europe,he will appear in Asia .One of the
    leagues issued by the great Hermes he will
    rise above all powers in the orient.
    Here the key words or code are long awaited the third Antichrist is someone who is the only person who is long awaited and there is nobody else everyone is waiting for,so i am clear in my mind that this quatrain describes the third Antichrist,this also signifies someone who is not of European origin but someone probably of an Asian or African race,another thing this implies that his war takes place in Asia where he emerges victorious probably after a successful nuclear strike.

    The Divine weapon of Kalki Avatar has been described as a shinning sword by which he will destroy the forces of Darkness. This Divine sword has been described by Nostradamus in his Centuries
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    Century-2-29
    L'oriental sortira de son siege,
    Passer les monts Apennins, voir la Gaule,
    Transpercera du ciel les eaux & neiges
    En vn chacun frappera de sa gaule.
    Century-2-29
    The Easterner will leave his seat, To pass the Apennine mountains to see Gaul: He will transpire the sky, the waters and the snow, And everyone will be struck with his rod.

    The rod which has been described by Nostradamus in his Prophecies is the shinning sword of Kalki Avatar which has been described time and again in the Puranas.And the mode of transport or vehicle of Kalki Avatar is as mentioned in the Puranas is a white horse. When Nostradamus says that “he will transpire the sky, the waters and the snow”, he probably means that Kalki Avatar will move through the world on his Divine means of transport. The Divine weapon along with the Divine transport or vehicle will strike fear and dread in the minds of the forces of Darkness.

    The Divine weapons of Kalki Avatar along with other qualities like infinite wisdom and the numerous qualities found in an Avatar of Vishnu are what will convince the world that the Kalki Avatar has finally arrived. Such qualities cannot remain hidden they are obivious. One will know who is Kalki Avatar, when one sees these qualities. There is no other way one can recognize Kalki Avatar.

    Revelation 19 describes what is said to be the Battle of Armageddon. In fact this is the Battle of the 10th and final Avatar of Vishnu Kalki Avatar, who manifests in the closing stages of the Kali Yuga. Revelation 19 is Bible Prophecy on the Battle of Kalki Avatar. This prophecy describes the magnificent white horse; the mount of Kalki Avatar and his shinning Supernatural Sword.

    “And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him that sat on the horse, and against his army…..and I saw heaven opened; and behold a white horse [Devaduta]; and he that sat upon him [ Kalki Avatar] was called faithful and true, and in righteousness He doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire…….and his name is called The word of God.

    “And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword [ the shinning white sword of Kalki Avatar], that with He should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the wine press of the fierceness and the wrath of Almighty God. And He hath on His vesture and on His thighs, a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF THE LORDS.

    The “ rod” or the Sword of Kalki Avatar is also described in the prophecy of Nostradamus on Kalki Avatar. The Indian Prophecy describes how the world will not end on 21st December 2012 or any time after that. The prophecy states that at no time will the forces of Darkness exceed the sum total of all the forces in existence. It is at this time that the Kalki Avatar will manifest. The 4th Seal and the 5th Seal from the Bible prophecies also describe the white horse and Kakli Avatar and the Battle of Armageddon.
     
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    Nostradamus prophesies have been given all kinds of fit..

    Here is one for Century 1-50

    From the aquatic triplicity born.
    From one who will make Thursday his feast:
    Its noise, praise, kingdom, his power will grow,
    By land and sea to the Easts storm.


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    De l'aquatique triplicit naistra.
    D'un qui fera le jeudi pour sa feste:
    Son bruit, loz, regne, sa puissance croistra,
    Par terre & mer aux Oriens tempeste.

    When Nostradamus infers "from the aquatic triplicity born," he is obviously involving three zodiacal signs, related to water: Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. He does not mention rivers, oceans or tributaries. Nostradamus is accurate. He neither uses planetary alignments or bizarre astrological figures. He only uses the most objective aspects of the astrologic science.

    The second verse retakes the previous idea and says that "From one who will make Thursday his feast." Let’s agree on something. When the prophet says "who will make Thursday his feast," he is not referring to an anniversary, birthday or saint’s day, because these are annual holidays and can fall on any day. “Celebrate” (“will make Thursday his celebration") relates to a specific day in a typical week: on Thursday, and every year.

    Let’s also remember that the name "Thursday" comes from the Latin Jovis dies, or "Jupiter day,” but it is also possible that it could be annual and will always be on that same day, such as Holy Thursday among Christians worldwide. An annual feast, but this consecration is the Thursday of the Holy Week. Doubly successful, then: first, the origin of Thursday in Latin is Jupiter day (Latin related to Rome;) and second, the Christian feast of Holy Thursday: Especially if he says "kingdom" ("regne") and "praise" ("loz,") which means praise and commendation, very typical of Catholic culture in any case. When saying "kingdom," we must be careful not to rush and imply a sense of nationhood, monarchy. Because given the concept "praise," it could refer to a Christian symbolism.

    It will cause "storm;" obviously, a storm is a weather phenomenon, and unless it is of historic importance, we are facing another symbolism. The term "conflict" not necessarily refers to something military. Let’s change what we have:

    From the three water signs will be born
    From one who will make Thursday his feast

    The term "from one" is interesting. And it is key for understanding this quatrain. “From one” refers to a person. And that person combines these three water signs or aquatic triplicity ("from one will be born"). And he will make the day "Thursday (be) his party."

    The concept "loor" can be replaced by praise. We can change the term "Kingdom" for domain, authority. And the concept "noise" may involve attracting much attention or doing things to get attention. We can change the concept "power" for influence. Also, we can synonymize the concept "grow" to increase, expand. And the concept "noise" can be replaced by voice. Let's see the verse now:

    "His voice, praise, power, influence will expand"

    In the last verse, Nostradamus says: "to the Easts." It turns out that the plural of the concept "East" is due to a geographical point of view which states that there are 3 (Near East, Middle East and Far East). We already said that the concept storm is figurative; therefore, the closest replacement is whirlwind. Let´s change this last verse:

    By land and sea to the Easts storm

    Well, Nostradamus is referring to Ignatius of Loyola, founder of the famous Society of Jesus or so called Jesuits, and also the so called Company of Jesus. But you may wander why I say that he is referring to this character and this institution. Let´s see:

    First, the birth date of Ignatius of Loyola is October 24, 1491, and his birth is important because without him the Company of Jesus would not have existed. And that date corresponds to the sign of Scorpio, water sign.

    Second, Ignatius of Loyola was ordained priest on June 24, 1538 by Pope Paul III in Venice, and this also is a valid date because he would neither had founded the Society of Jesus had he not been a priest from the Catholic Church. And that date corresponds to the sign of Cancer, also a water sign.

    And thirdly, the Society of Jesus is really born through a Papal Bull Injunctum Nobis on March 14, 1543. We should say that before that date there is another Papal Bull called Regimini Militantis from September 27, 1540, which is the one that gives true life to the religious order because it lifted the number ban from its members; however, that Papal Bull limited the number of members from the new order.

    And this limitation is of enormous importance because with a limited number of members it could never have spread, as the third and fourth verses indicate. In short, March 14th, 1543 is the real birth date of this congregation, called SOCIETA IESU, from the viewpoint of its fame, prestige and power. This date corresponds to the sign of Pisces. The last water sign.

    That is the water triplicity:

    Date of Birth of Ignatius Loyola: 24/10/1491 SCORPIO
    Date of his priestly ordination: 24/06/1538 CANCER
    Date of Papal Bull WITHOUT ban: 14/03/1543 PISCES

    "From the aquatic triplicity from one will be born"

    And this congregation, as we said in our analysis, will feast on Thursday, and of course, because every year during Holy Week, Thursday is celebrated as Holy Thursday. ("Who will make Thursday his feast.") And now it is easier to fit the following verses with the development of this order.

    Let's briefly review history: The Society of Jesus has been an organization that has lived among the praise ("loor") and criticism, always in controversy ("Its Noise.") Its unconditional loyalty to the Pope has involved it in several conflicts: with Elizabethan England, with Spanish absolutism and the Sun King, with Bismarck's Germany, from where it was expelled (during the Kulturkampf), and with the Liberal governments of various countries in America and Europe, which also pursued it.

    Also, the Communist regimes in Eastern Europe and China largely limited its activity as from 1945 ("By land and sea to the Easts storm.") Outstanding chapters of its history have been the origin and development of its famous Colleges and Universities in Europe, and its missionary activity in India, China and Japan ("By land and sea to the Easts storm.")

    At this point it is important to emphasize the enormous challenge that the Jesuits had to face upon their arrival in distant lands, given the customs and religiosity of the Easts. They were also present in the reservations in Paraguay, the exploration and evangelization in Canada, the Mississippi and the Marañón, the theological conflicts with Protestants and Jansenists, their confrontation with the Enlightenment, their suppression and expulsion from America (1773) ("kingdom, its power will grow.)

    In fact the power that they acquired in America was so great that the King of Spain ordered their expulsion. In 1965 they reached their highest numerical expansion: 36,000 Jesuits in more than a hundred administrative units (provinces and missions). That is why the Papal Bull dated 14/3/1543 is so important, because if it had not lifted the ban that strictly dictated having a certain number of members, they could never have increased their territorial power (especially in America) and their influence, and the execution of one of the largest evangelization exercises in history.

    The Jesuits were widely known even in Asia, and suffered many sacrifices. (Middle East and Far East). The quatrain has been clarified.
     
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    This prophecy is about the defeat of American forces,
    Hidden in the Centuries of Nostradamus is this Quatrain which according to me is the defeat of the USA.One has to remember that the Prophecies are in a code language, what matters is how you interpret them. The laws of probability do not apply here, these are specific events prophesied to happen.Nostradamus had visions of these events.

    Century 2 -.44.
    L'aigle posee entour des pauillons,
    Par autres oyseaux d'entour sera chassee,
    Quand bruit des cymbres, tubes et sonnaillons
    Rendront le sens de la Dame insensee.
    Century 2 - 44
    The Eagle driven back around the tents Will be chased from there by other birds: When the noise of cymbals, trumpets and bells Will restore the senses of the senseless lady.

    This prophecy is associated with the THE THIRD ANTICHRIST and an alliance created by him.. What is clear is that “The Eagle” being driven back is the “Bald Eagle” the symbol of the USA.The “noise of cymbals, trumpets and bells” stands for weapons used or used to threaten by the other nations. This will restore the ”senses of the senseless lady”, the senseless lady stand for the Statue of Liberty. This prophecy could be fulfilled in the near future. It has become more and more evident that the USA is trying to create a New World Order. In the quest for world dominance it is trying to invent scapegoats which it then destroys. This creates an atmosphere of chaos in that region, which the USA then uses to its advantage. The chaos is then justified as a reason for military presence of the USA and its allies in that part of the world. Success will make the USA and its friends reckless and over confident. They could interfere and try to corner the Russians. A lot of nations are likely to align with the Russians. The Russians will then display their weapons of mass destruction and throw the Americans and their friends out of the region where they have trespassed. These events will take away the current position of the undisputed world leader which is held by the USA. A rethink and a scaling down of their ambitions is indicated by this quatrain.
     
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    This thread is going to be bizarre and ridiculous.
     
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    I agree with you here bcoz very surprisingly these prophecies are also stated in as many words in Kalki Purana which was written thousands of years agao while Nostradamus is a 16th century phenomenon.
     
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    @LurkerBaba should be interested here.
     
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    Here is one for Century 1-50

    From the aquatic triplicity born.
    From one who will make Thursday his feast:
    Its noise, praise, kingdom, his power will grow,
    By land and sea to the Easts storm.



    I wish to correct you here regarding the three water bodies. Cancer, scorpio and Pieces are water signs which lie to the east, west and south of the ecliptic as used in astrology. which clearly means a landmass which has water to its east, west and south with three different names. this fits the discription of India only.

    http://cse.ssl.berkeley.edu/lessons/indiv/beth/beth_intro.html .
     
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    Nostradamus can fit many popes, like Innocent III, who launched crusades.

    Kalki anti-christ? Hoho. But then xians view everything through biblical goggles.
     
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    Describes S. Africa even better. What about Alaska and southern tip of S. America?

    Had good laffs.

    Mods please lock this thread as it is a waste of BW.
     
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    Obama is also called anti-christ in CT circles.
     
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    Is there any prophecy about home grown terrorism in India :heh:?
     
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    Read the prophesies and see which one fits.
     
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    South Africa is located in South Hemispere and none of the seas around it is in north hemisphere. Ecliptic is the Apparant motion of sun around earth's equator which is due to its tilt of 23.5*.
    Alaska has water body on three sides but to its east is Canada.
     
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    I wish to remind you all about the falsehood that has been spread about or vedas. Prior to Rishi Ved Vyas, all vedas existed as a single unwritten Veda which was passed on by word of mouth by memorising it. This single veda had all the four vedas in it. Rishi Ved Vyas converted this single veda into four different parts by putting all verses of one particular subject into one single veda each. Thus the original single veda got divided into four vedas. Historians put the date of Rig Veda as 5000BC but in effect it is from time imemorial. Rishi Krishna Dwipayan (A person born on an island) was renamed as Rishi Ved Vyas for this reason.
     
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