JF-17 Thunders slashed from 275 to 150

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  1. sayareakd

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    ISLAMABAD — Despite its crippling economic situation, Pakistan may be forced to fund its Air Force’s most important procurement programs on an emergency basis, or at least ensure sufficient finances for their regular progress.

    Salma Malik, assistant professor in the Department of Defence & Strategic Studies, at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad, said the “linkage between economic progress, energy sufficiency and security as well as physical security” has never before been so deeply felt in Pakistan.

    This is highlighted by the predicament facing the Air Force, which has not received any finances for its modernization efforts since 2007 under the Armed Forces Development Plan 2025 (AFDP2025).

    Also, it has received only a portion of its allocated share of the general defense budget under the recently ousted Pakistan People’s Party government.

    In addition to the financial woes, Malik highlights the “qualitative” and “quantitative edge” of the India Air Force developed through “upgrades or procurements.”

    Though not dismissing the myriad problems facing the Indians, she particularly highlighted the potential purchase of the French Rafale as the “most concerning for Pakistan.”

    However, though she acknowledged that Air Force equipment is very expensive, the length of time between ordering a weapon such as a fighter aircraft and having it enter front-line service, dictates a “sense of urgency.”

    Malik says this was most likely impressed upon Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, by the head of the Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, during a June 13 meeting, and therefore “some allocation might happen straightaway.”

    This emergency funding, Malik believes, could be injected into programs formulated in response to Indian developments, like the AFDP2025, to get them back on track and funded regularly.

    If this does come about then the main focus, according to analyst Usman Shabbir of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank, will be the building of more JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft, “and inducting them into service fast to replace old Mirages and F-7 Fishbeds.”

    He notes that pre-2007 programs have given the Air Force some breathing space.

    “The air defense system has been upgraded with new radars and [command and control nodes, refuelers are in service, AEW&C are inducted, [beyond visual range] capability is acquired, Crotale SAM replacement is inducted.”

    However, in the medium to long term, there are still concerns as the planned number of JF-17s has been slashed from 275 or 250 down to 150, which will not replace the current obsolete Mirages and F-7s on a one-for-one basis.

    The J-10B/FC-20 program will also need to start progressing, and there is still a need for long-range SAMs, plus more Il-76 transport aircraft.

    The FC-20 was supposed to enter service in the middle of the decade to form a high tech “spear tip” for Pakistani air power, but there appears to have been no progress with procurement.

    Economic revival will dictate most action.

    Among other economic woes, Pakistan is gripped by a crippling circular debt problem where the government and independent power producers owe each other huge amounts of money, hampering electricity generation to kick-start the economy.

    The new government pledged to end this situation within 60 days of coming to power.

    Analyst and former Army officer Ikram Sehgal is optimistic this will happen now that the previous government has been ousted from power.

    “I have confidence that the economy will be turned around,” he said.

    “The Pakistan economy is the most resilient in the world. If the [government of the PPP] could not bring it to its knees, then nothing can. It’s a question of management.”

    Pakistan May Speed AF Procurements Despite Economy | Defense News | defensenews.com
     
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    they are feeling the heat of Economy.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    They think Junker 17 can contest Rafale. :rofl:
     
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    Didn't you know 1 JF17 can take on 10 Rafales that too from 300kms away?
     
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    yeah it is the man behind the machine that matters. Junk fighter can take on any fighter of this world or even of aliens.
     
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    Incredible, with the economy they have now, hats-off to the analyst for thinking they can even get near to the three digit figure.
     
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    in the coming years their eco will be in neck deep trouble, more they want to match us, more trouble they will be in.

    We have lots of things line up.

    Vik will come to us along with Mig 29k, MRCA, Super Su 30 MKI and before they know 4-5 nuke subs in water. Pakistanis are in classic catch 22 situation. If they ignore Defence which they will not, they cant sleep at night and if send resources to defence they wont have development.
     
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    I thought that they are already concerned with Sukhoi 30 MKI then why the hype about Rafale?
     
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    India should do all it can to undermine Pak economy so that it stays with the begging bowl forever and keep eating grass for any weapons acquisition directed against India.
     
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    150 is a confirmed order in 3 blocks.

    After 150 either we will go for more block 3 or may be than the j2x would be ready for mass production
     
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    How confirm is your confirmed order??

    Where is the third squadron of JFT?

    Where is block 2?

    and best of luck for stealth JFT block 3.
     
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    are u a defense adviser for Pakistan Govt Farhan because every time there is a news about JF17 being low in quality than other aircraft or reduction in number you talk as if you are the Air force chief of Pak...... and give a statement which is completely irrelevant.... or contradicting the news........
     
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    150 are confirmed.while paf might later opt for even more.this is being published hundreds of times.Google it

    49 jft are delivered to paf/manufactured from the pics inside pac.it doesnt matter whether they officially raise the squadron or not.

    Jft 3 is a further upgrade of jft 2.stealthy not stealth
     
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    Googling takes me to a story that Air-force development plan 2025 stands cancelled and no funds were allocated from 2007 and also 40% cut in operational budget.
    Provide me a link that says these claims are wrong and then I would be confirmed that indeed PAF have confirmed orders of 150 JFT.

    And where is block-2?
    Will PAC Kamra stop production after 50 have been delivered.?
     

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