JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

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  1. A.V.

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    Islamabad, Mar 7 (PTI) Pakistan and China today signed an agreement for the serial production of 42 JF-17 Thunder jet fighters, which are expected to form the backbone of the Pakistani aerial combat fleet in coming years.
    Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood, the chief of the Pakistan Air Force, said the first squadron of JF-17s would be inducted into his force this year.

    Though Pakistan is facing a financial crunch, the serial production of the aircraft is being started with the cooperation of the Chinese government, Mahmood said. Pakistan has invested USD 600 million in the JF-17 project.

    The agreement for producing the jets was signed at the PAF headquarters by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Chairman Air Marshal Khalid Chaudhry and M A Zhiping, President of state-run China Aviation Import-Export Corporation.

    The ceremony was attended by Mahmood and Chinese Ambassador Luo Zhaohui.

    Under the agreement, China will provide credit financing for manufacturing the jets. Payments will be made to China in seven years, Mahmood said.

    The JF-17 is a lightweight, all-weather, multi-role combat jet developed jointly by Pakistan and China. The Pakistan Air Force has so far received eight JF-17 jets that are being used for testing and evaluation.

    Mahmood also said that Pakistan would receive its first Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft from China by the end of 2010. PTI
     
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  3. EnlightenedMonk

    EnlightenedMonk Member of The Month JULY 2009 Senior Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they planning to buy some Swedish AWACS... In fact, I think the order for the Swedish AWACS is out already.

    Then, why the Chinese AWACS ???
     
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    EnlightenedMonk Member of The Month JULY 2009 Senior Member

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    Any interest they'll be charging for the seven year period ??? Or, is it an interest free "loan" that they're getting. Or credit, should I say ???
     
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    musalman پاکستان زنده باد

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    Yes three Swedish AWACS for western platform based fighter planes like F16 Mirages JF17 with western avionics etc.Chinese will be for chinese based systems.
     
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    PAF, Chinese firm sign deal to build JF-17 aircraft

     
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    Pak to start production of JF-17 'Thunder' by month-end

    Pak to start production of JF-17 'Thunder' by month-end

    Islamabad (PTI): Pakistan will start the serial production of JF-17 'Thunder' warplane, jointly developed with China, by the end of this month, with the first indigenously produced combat jet set to take to the skies by end of the year.

    "We will start production of this aircraft from the 30th of this month and Inshallah, the first made-in-Pakistan JF-17 aircraft will fly in Pakistan's airspace by the end of this year," Air Force chief Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said.

    Addressing a graduation ceremony of a combat commanders' course held at an airbase in Sargodha on Saturday, Suleman said the programme for building the lightweight, all-weather, multi-role combat jet is on track.

    Pakistan and China signed an agreement in March for the production of 42 JF-17 fighters, which are expected to form the backbone of Pakistani aerial combat fleet in coming years.

    Though Pakistan is facing a severe financial crunch, the production of the jets is being started with the cooperation of the Chinese government. Pakistan has invested $600 million in the JF-17 project.

    The Pakistan Air Force has so far received eight JF-17 jets from China that are being used for testing and evaluation. The PAF plans to raise its first squadron of JF-17 jets by the end of this year and it will be stationed at an airbase in Peshawar.

    Pakistan's decision to begin indigenous production of the JF-17 comes at a time when the military is making extensive use of airpower in operations against the Taliban in the country's northwest.

    Combat jets and gunship helicopters have been used to bombard militant hideouts in Swat valley and South Waziristan, the stronghold of local Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud.

    Air Chief Marshal Suleman said: "PAF has extensively flown against the militants in Swat as well as in FATA (Federally Administered Tribal Areas). Application of airpower has brought about tangible results.

    "This is a new type of warfare in which PAF has been participating for the first time during the last one year or so in support of the Pakistan Army. We will continue our contribution towards our national security effort as long as it is required".

    Air Chief Marshal Suleman noted that apart from "the traditional hostile adversary, new frontiers of conflict have lately emerged for us in the west and from within. These developments pose a great deal of threat to our national security."

    The Hindu News Update Service
     
  8. masterofsea

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    Pakistan began its own assembly of JF-17 fighters

    Pakistan Air Force (PAF) started assembling of the first Pakistani-built JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft on Tuesday, local TV channel reported.
    Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of Staff of the PAF, inaugurated the construction in a ceremony at Amra which houses the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in the mountainous north of the Punjab province. Top military and civilian officials of Pakistan and China attended the ceremony, the private TV channel GEO NEWS reported.
    GEO NEWS quoted Suleman as saying that this success will enhance Pakistan's air power in the region and at international scale. Suleman praised the Chinese cooperation and said that the joint Sino-Pakistan project is a living example of the cooperation between the two countries.
    Pakistan and China signed an agreement for the production of 42 JF-17 fighters, which are expected to form the backbone of Pakistani aerial combat fleet in coming years.
    The Pakistan Air Force has so far received eight JF-17 jets from China that are being used for testing and evaluation. The PAF plans to raise its first squadron of JF-17 jets by the end of this year.

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    Global Times - Pakistan began its own assembly of Xiaolong fighters
     
  9. A.V.

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    good news for pakistan
    but whats the update from china, are they are they interested on jf-17 or is it just means to generate funds for its own program ?
     
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    Is china interested in this plane? I mean, I wouldnt be if I had the J10, which is superior in all respects. I feel Pakistan should have gone for more J10s instead of F17s! But maybe the PAF might have some trick up its sleeve or maybe just short of cash, since China is financing the first 40 JF17s. Correct me If I am wrong.
     
  11. Koji

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    The PLAAF has rejected the JF-17, and has no plans for adoption. As far as I know, the JF-17 was used to beef up China's own aviation industry (for export and indigenous development) while simultaneously increasing bilateral ties with Pakistan.
     
  12. LETHALFORCE

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    what if pakistan takes the 40 free planes that china is giving and cancels the order???
     
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    Koji, can you tell us why exactly it was rejected? Any good news in the chinese media??
     
  14. Koji

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    Considering the financial state of Pakistan, the Chinese are probably already assuming these jets are gifts already (just like those new frigates).
     
  15. LETHALFORCE

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    everything will be gifts
     
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    So, what radar, engine, avionics are going into this JF-17?. Any info?
     
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    First 50 are going to incorporate Chinese gear, except for the engine which is the Russian RD-93 (Same engine modern Migs use). The radar will be the Chinese KLJ-7, is an X-band airborne fire-control radar (FCR) developed by Nanjing Research Institute of Electronic Technology (NRIET. The KLJ-7 has multiple modes, both beyond-visual-range (BVR) and close-in air-to-air modes, ground surveillance modes and a robust anti-jamming capability. The radar can reportedly manage up to 40 targets, monitor up to 10 of them in track-while-scan (TWS) mode and simultaneously fire on two BVR targets The second batch will most likely have European upgrades.


    It is known that a helmet-mounted sights/display (HMS/D) system will be installed on the JF-17, although the exact type is yet to be confirmed. This system assists in targeting enemy aircraft by projecting targeting information onto the pilot's visor and tracking the movements of his head/eyes. Also to be integrated is a FLIR (Forward Looking Infra-Red) pod for low-level navigation in low visibility and IRST (Infra-Red Search and Track) system for passive monitoring and targeting of enemy aircraft
     
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    So they are not happy with chinese gear :wink:.
     
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    Payeng Daku Mongol Singh

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    I think RD- 33 series 3 and RD-33MK are what modern Migs use.
     
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    Does it matter? The J-10 or other birds the PLAAF has in its inventory will most likely have different gear.
     
  21. LETHALFORCE

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    does this mean Pakistan is not getting the best China can offer???
     

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