JF-17 export bubble burst

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  1. gokussj9

    gokussj9 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Defence budget lacks specifications on exporting JF-17 Thunder

    @p2prada, @Decklander, @sayareakd, @fulcrum, @Kunal Biswas
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    It may so happen that RAW will buy the Junk Fighters, through third country, from its huge un-audited funds, to have some face saving for Pakistan Airforce.
     
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    China will manufacture and sell the jets. Pak does not yet have the capability to manufacture the jet.

    But they will earn a certain something for the sale because they own 50% of the IPR.
     
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    This is brilliant. Buy the JF-17 and promptly put it in display at a military museum.
     
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    Its a Chinese fighter design for PAF ..

    It will be exported to Pakistan with a tag ' Made In Pakistan '
     
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    drkrn Senior Member Senior Member

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    why to waste some space??
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    It is also true that world dont buy the Pakiatani argument thay man behind machine matters.

    That is why no sale of this junk a part from its maker PAF, even PKA-AF dont want it. This speaks highly of their junk fighter.
     
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    Pakisthan has no option left than to go for the JF-17, not only it can not afford to operate even a twin engine figher aircraft it has also put the upgrade to the JF-17 to a halt. If this situation goes with the half baked JF-17 [I am sure it is not combat ready now] PAF is going to have a serious problem facing IAF even in a defensive role in next 10 years....
     
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    paf has no choice except eat the grass it is offered.
     
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    lolz.. feeling sorry for the pakistans. Back in 2010 pakistanis were claiming on this very forum and arguing with me and others that they will build 250 Junk Fighters by 2015 as an answer to the 272 MKis. lolol What fun days. They were claiming their dear friend china will give it to them for free or through soft loans. So looks like even China has left them high and dry. :pound:
     
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    In an old issue of Vayu, there was a report about how Nawaz Sharif, then in the UK (before he returned to Pakistan) was at the JF 17 display at Farnborough and suggested to visiting Indian Air Marshal Pervez Khokar that India should buy it adding that "It flies, and it can drop bombs".
     
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    I once read the jf-17 as "what happens when a mirage has sex with an f-16" lol
     
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    You had it easy. I was busy explaining to them how their aircraft is of no match to the MKI, this was when MKI numbers were 230.

    Of course, now we have the MKI-complex. Soon we will have the Rafale-complex, then we will have Super MKI-complex followed by FGFA-complex. They will still be in the JF-17 Block 3-complex, especially more since they won't be getting their prized J-10s.

    We know our airforce is doing way better than theirs ever was. :D

    A burning wreck...
     
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    Long back I had posted that this bubble has burst. The original plan was to have 150 fighters for PAF and another 100 options for PAF/Export. Pakistan ran out of money after just 50 ac and china refused to give them ac for free. So the whole deal was restricted to 50 ac. Now Pakistan wants to sell these ac in the hope that it will be able to make some money but the problem is that development cost which was distributed into 250 ac will now be distributed in 50 ac so the price goes up and no one is willing to buy this junk. China will not give these ac for export to Pak till PAF takes its 150 ac and exports if any, will be done by Chinese themselves. Why wud they allow Pak to export these fighters.
     
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    lol.......
     
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    Yea, it was 230 back then, I remember. Then they mentioned they will manufacture more than our MKIs in such a limited time. They said since they have put the aircraft from first flight to service in such a short time, even this is possible with china opening assembly lines for them in their country in addition to the one in pakistan. lolz.. such fun. And it became apparent how they inducted the fighter without any IOC or FOC, and after a few months fresh from the factory bursting out in flames in mid-air crashing and killing its pilot. There was another drama when it crashed. Until the last minute the pakistanis were claiming it was a F-7 which crashed. And when the first pics of the wreckage came out they were in tears. :pound: This happened in the middle of the Dubai Air show where they were trying to sell it. lol
     
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    They probably still can. They planned to make 25 a year. That's nearly twice our MKI production capability. It was not entirely far-fetched, but they overestimated their aircraft let alone their funds.

    Yup. First flight in 2003 and induction in 2007, apparently. And they delivered 8 LSP models as operational aircraft to PAF in 2007. Funny that.

    I remember that. Is the reason known in public?
     

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