JD(U) in rough weather as Sharad, Nitish have fallen out

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    JD(U) in rough weather as Sharad, Nitish have fallen out

    Opposed to split with BJP, which may cost them upper caste votes, six JD(U) MPs might quite before the monsoon sessions]



    While the Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP) Bihar unit is crying foul at the ruling Janata Dal (United), claiming that the former NDA partner is trying to win over several party MLAs, reports indicate not all is well within the JD(U) itself.

    If sources are to be believed, six JD(U) MPs, upset with Bihar chief minister Nitish. Kumar’s decision to part ways with the BJP, among others, plan to raise a banner of revolt before the monsoon session of parliament begins in the first week of August. According to sources, the six MPs cannot win their parliamentary constituencies without the support of BJP – in other words without upper caste votes, which the BJP is said to have a sway over.

    Besides this mini-revolt, a bigger problem for JD(U) could lie at the top, as sources indicate differences between party president Sharad Yadav and its most well known face, chief minister Nitish Kumar, are gradually coming out in the open. Yadav, who is known to have been opposed to the split with the BJP, has removed party MP Shivanand Tiwari as the JD(U) spokesman and brought back Shambhu Srivastava in the post.

    While Yadav has reasoned that Tiwari is leader of the party in Rajya Sabha and he can certainly speak to the media, the move is being interpreted in political circles differently. Tiwari was very vocal in his criticism of BJP, and Narendra Modi, and usually deviated from the Sharad Yadav line. In fact, he is considered one of the key factors for the BJP-JD(U) split.

    Despite being the party president and leader of the party’s parliamentary party Yadav has been sidelined in JD(U) scheme of things ever since Nitish Kumar decided to part ways with the NDA.

    According to insiders, Yadav was not in favour of parting company with the NDA since he had realised that JD(U) would be marginalised in national politics post-split, as it has failed to grow beyond Bihar. All the party MPs and MLAs are from Bihar and are said to be in the Nitish Kumar camp. Left with no vital role since he is no more the NDA convener, and little signs of the party joining a vague third front – in fact, Sanjay Jha, a JD(U) leader considered close to the CM, said on Tuesday that a third front is “unworkable” – Yadav is moving in to carve out a role for himself in national politics by asserting himself in the party.
    By bringing in George Fernandes loyalist Shambhu Srivastava, Yadav has tried to placate the camp to counter the growing clout of Nitish Kumar.

    Yadav was also not on the same page with Nitish Kumar when the Bihar CM accused the BJP and Lalu Yadav’s RJD of conspiring in the midday meal deaths in Saran district last week. Yadav did not comment on the issue.

    While the Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP) Bihar unit is crying foul at the ruling Janata Dal (United), claiming that the former NDA partner is trying to win over several party MLAs, reports indicate not all is well within the JD(U) itself.

    If sources are to be believed, six JD(U) MPs, upset with Bihar chief minister Nitish. Kumar’s decision to part ways with the BJP, among others, plan to raise a banner of revolt before the monsoon session of parliament begins in the first week of August. According to sources, the six MPs cannot win their parliamentary constituencies without the support of BJP – in other words without upper caste votes, which the BJP is said to have a sway over.

    Besides this mini-revolt, a bigger problem for JD(U) could lie at the top, as sources indicate differences between party president Sharad Yadav and its most well known face, chief minister Nitish Kumar, are gradually coming out in the open. Yadav, who is known to have been opposed to the split with the BJP, has removed party MP Shivanand Tiwari as the JD(U) spokesman and brought back Shambhu Srivastava in the post.

    While Yadav has reasoned that Tiwari is leader of the party in Rajya Sabha and he can certainly speak to the media, the move is being interpreted in political circles differently. Tiwari was very vocal in his criticism of BJP, and Narendra Modi, and usually deviated from the Sharad Yadav line. In fact, he is considered one of the key factors for the BJP-JD(U) split.

    Despite being the party president and leader of the party’s parliamentary party Yadav has been sidelined in JD(U) scheme of things ever since Nitish Kumar decided to part ways with the NDA.

    According to insiders, Yadav was not in favour of parting company with the NDA since he had realised that JD(U) would be marginalised in national politics post-split, as it has failed to grow beyond Bihar. All the party MPs and MLAs are from Bihar and are said to be in the Nitish Kumar camp. Left with no vital role since he is no more the NDA convener, and little signs of the party joining a vague third front – in fact, Sanjay Jha, a JD(U) leader considered close to the CM, said on Tuesday that a third front is “unworkable” – Yadav is moving in to carve out a role for himself in national politics by asserting himself in the party.

    By bringing in George Fernandes loyalist Shambhu Srivastava, Yadav has tried to placate the camp to counter the growing clout of Nitish Kumar.

    Yadav was also not on the same page with Nitish Kumar when the Bihar CM accused the BJP and Lalu Yadav’s RJD of conspiring in the midday meal deaths in Saran district last week. Yadav did not comment on the issue.

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    What is going on?

    And now as is current, there is a revolt.
     
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    Nitish's troubles mount in election year, NaMo-Lalu divide JD(U)

    | Patna, October 16, 2013


    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...narendra-modi-lalu-prasad-yadav/1/316625.html

    Bihar CM Nitish Kumar is facing a series of rebellions from within his party just months after he snapped ties with the BJP. The latest setback to Nitish has come from none other than his own party MP from Jhanjharpur, Mangni Lal Mandal.
    Mandal is the third MP in row, after Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram and Muzaffarpur MP Capt Jai Prakash Narayan Nishad, who has raised a voice against the Bihar CM and charged him of functioning in an autocratic manner.

    The Jhanjharpur MP, who is already under suspension, has hit out at Nitish Kumar over his style of functioning, terming it "dictatorial in nature". Mandal recently met jailed RJD boss Lalu Prasad in Ranchi's Birsa Munda jail and sources close to him said that he would soon announce his exit from JD(U) and was eyeing an entry into Lalu's fold.

    Sources said that Mandal has been assured of the Jhanjharpur seat in 2014 by Lalu if he joins RJD.

    Speaking to Headlines Today-Aaj Tak Mandal said, "Lalu is a messiah of poor people of this state. Lalu is fighting against communal forces in the country. He is the tallest leader in Bihar. In coming days only two forms of ideology will survive - Namo or Lalu. Other forces will be wiped away. Nitish Kumar is not a mass leader but leader who wants only power. Lalu will become more stronger in coming days".

    Earlier, the Muzaffarpur MP Capt Nishad and Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram revolted against Nitish. Both MPs are also under suspension from the party for 6 years for indulging in anti-party activities.



    MP from Jhanjharpur, Mangni Lal Mandal
    Bihar CM Nitish Kumar is facing a series of rebellions from within his party just months after he snapped ties with the BJP. The latest setback to Nitish has come from none other than his own party MP from Jhanjharpur, Mangni Lal Mandal.
    Mandal is the third MP in row, after Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram and Muzaffarpur MP Capt Jai Prakash Narayan Nishad, who has raised a voice against the Bihar CM and charged him of functioning in an autocratic manner.

    The Jhanjharpur MP, who is already under suspension, has hit out at Nitish Kumar over his style of functioning, terming it "dictatorial in nature". Mandal recently met jailed RJD boss Lalu Prasad in Ranchi's Birsa Munda jail and sources close to him said that he would soon announce his exit from JD(U) and was eyeing an entry into Lalu's fold.



    Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram
    Sources said that Mandal has been assured of the Jhanjharpur seat in 2014 by Lalu if he joins RJD.

    Speaking to Headlines Today-Aaj Tak Mandal said, "Lalu is a messiah of poor people of this state. Lalu is fighting against communal forces in the country. He is the tallest leader in Bihar. In coming days only two forms of ideology will survive - Namo or Lalu. Other forces will be wiped away. Nitish Kumar is not a mass leader but leader who wants only power. Lalu will become more stronger in coming days".

    Earlier, the Muzaffarpur MP Capt Nishad and Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram revolted against Nitish. Both MPs are also under suspension from the party for 6 years for indulging in anti-party activities.


    Muzaffarpur MP Capt Jai Prakash Narayan Nishad
    While Nishad had met Gujarat CM Narendra Modi and organised a havan for him to become the next PM, Purnmasi Ram had been critical of Nitish, alleging Nitish's role in the fodder scam. While Mandal is set to join RJD soon, the other two MP's are all set to join BJP.

    This is however, not the end of woes for Nitish.

    At the state level also ministers and legislators have not only revolted against JD(U) but have also started undermining the relevance of Nitish in the party.

    While legislator Chedi Paswan has been suspended for praising NaMo, another cabinet minister Ramai Ram is openly defying the party's discipline by publicly staking a claim to contest the Lok Sabha polls from Hajipur seat, even before the party has begun to discuss its poll strategy. The minister has also been harking about the great rapport he shared with Lalu Prasad when he was in the RJD in the 1990s. Ramai Ram said, "I will contest elections from Hajipur seat at any cost. Lalu and Rami have already been a force to reckon with in the 1990s."

    These are difficult times for the Bihar CM. Ever since he has snapped ties with the BJP, Nitish has refused to expand his cabinet fearing massive revolt in the party. As a result NItish Kumar today is one of the busiest CMs in the country, holding at least 18 portfolios. With several leaders rebelling against Nitish Kumar, it does not bode well for the JD(U), especially

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    Yadav sahab waise dikhai bhi nahi padte aajkal. Looks like Shivanand Tiwari and Nitish have damaged party a lot. Idiots could have remained shut up and could have continued to do work in Bihar despite being "Balloons". Media made Nitish a balloon that there's a Bihar model and he started to see dreams of PM seat, now we should ask Yadav and his party, how it's feeling to be a Dhobi ka kutta ??
     
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    You know what ! Shivanand Tiwari praised Modi in JD(U) Chintan Shivir today, he said "I respect Modi because of the struggle he has done in his life and has reached to this place from a Tea seller to the CM, we must not underestimate him, he is a very powerful leader today." LOL! JD(U) members were doing narebaji against Tiwari for speaking so.
     
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    Nitish's troubles mount in election year, NaMo-Lalu divide JD(U)

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    Nitish's troubles mount in election year, NaMo-Lalu divide JD(U)

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...narendra-modi-lalu-prasad-yadav/1/316625.html

    The JD (U) including Sharad Yadav went along with Nitish Kumar's theory that with Modi as the BJP's PM candidate all would be lost.

    Now that they have realised that Modi Is drawing mammoth crowds and Muslim leaders are critical of the so called secularism that they have realised is a failed God and surcharged with abject falsehood, these chaps of the JD(U) are seeing the writing on the wall and revolving against their till recently messiah and Daniel come to Judgement.

    This is the opportunistic politics that plagues India.

    Thus, all this hogwash of secularism and communalism is all jetsam, flotsam and bilge water.

    Politics in India is all about wresting power with fraudulent claims, crocodile tears and being in position to loot with impunity!
     
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    From today's event you can see how frustrated JDU is. In their own chintan shivir all they did was talk about Modi this Modi that.
     
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    Sir, I have a feeling that Modi will do a lot of good work for the Muslims if he becomes the PM.
     
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    Nitish's troubles mount in election year, NaMo-Lalu divide JD(U)

    Bihar CM Nitish Kumar is facing a series of rebellions from within his party just months after he snapped ties with the BJP. The latest setback to Nitish has come from none other than his own party MP from Jhanjharpur, Mangni Lal Mandal.
    Mandal is the third MP in row, after Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram and Muzaffarpur MP Capt Jai Prakash Narayan Nishad, who has raised a voice against the Bihar CM and charged him of functioning in an autocratic manner.

    The Jhanjharpur MP, who is already under suspension, has hit out at Nitish Kumar over his style of functioning, terming it "dictatorial in nature". Mandal recently met jailed RJD boss Lalu Prasad in Ranchi's Birsa Munda jail and sources close to him said that he would soon announce his exit from JD(U) and was eyeing an entry into Lalu's fold.


    Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram
    Sources said that Mandal has been assured of the Jhanjharpur seat in 2014 by Lalu if he joins RJD.

    Speaking to Headlines Today-Aaj Tak Mandal said, "Lalu is a messiah of poor people of this state. Lalu is fighting against communal forces in the country. He is the tallest leader in Bihar. In coming days only two forms of ideology will survive - Namo or Lalu. Other forces will be wiped away. Nitish Kumar is not a mass leader but leader who wants only power. Lalu will become more stronger in coming days".

    Earlier, the Muzaffarpur MP Capt Nishad and Gopalganj MP Purnmasi Ram revolted against Nitish. Both MPs are also under suspension from the party for 6 years for indulging in anti-party activities.


    Muzaffarpur MP Capt Jai Prakash Narayan Nishad
    While Nishad had met Gujarat CM Narendra Modi and organised a havan for him to become the next PM, Purnmasi Ram had been critical of Nitish, alleging Nitish's role in the fodder scam. While Mandal is set to join RJD soon, the other two MP's are all set to join BJP.

    This is however, not the end of woes for Nitish.

    At the state level also ministers and legislators have not only revolted against JD(U) but have also started undermining the relevance of Nitish in the party.

    While legislator Chedi Paswan has been suspended for praising NaMo, another cabinet minister Ramai Ram is openly defying the party's discipline by publicly staking a claim to contest the Lok Sabha polls from Hajipur seat, even before the party has begun to discuss its poll strategy. The minister has also been harking about the great rapport he shared with Lalu Prasad when he was in the RJD in the 1990s. Ramai Ram said, "I will contest elections from Hajipur seat at any cost. Lalu and Rami have already been a force to reckon with in the 1990s."

    These are difficult times for the Bihar CM. Ever since he has snapped ties with the BJP, Nitish has refused to expand his cabinet fearing massive revolt in the party. As a result NItish Kumar today is one of the busiest CMs in the country, holding at least 18 portfolios. With several leaders rebelling against Nitish Kumar, it does not bode well for the JD(U), especially in an election year.


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    As I see it, should he become the PM, he has no options but to look at India as India beyond all divides.

    If he doesn't do that, he is in for big trouble,
     
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    Yeah ! IMO he will first wipe his anti-Muslim image with good works and schemes.

    Off course! :)
     
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    If 10 MLAs resign from JDU even now BJP can form govt. (if they pull independents with them) and they can easily with those seats to BJP in re election.
     
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    Confusion begets all minds.
     
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    JD(U) leader Shivanand Tiwari praises Narendra Modi at party meet

    RAJGIR: Senior JD(U) leader Shivanand Tiwari today created flutters by praising Narendra Modi at the JD(U) convention here, triggering spontaneous protests from the party workers.

    "He was born in a backward caste family. He rose from humble origins, one who had sold tea at railway station," the party spokesman said in the presence of Chief Minister Nitish Kumar and party president Sharad Yadav on the dais.

    This was not taken to kindly by the workers who shouted slogans as his remarks came just days after Kumar had been targeted by Modi in a rally in Patna.

    Tiwari, a Rajya Sabha member who had come out vehemently against Modi in the run up to the the JD(U)-BJP split, was initially confused about what the protest was about. He then explained that one has to look at one's own weaknesses and strengths of the rival, describing Modi as a formidable challenger.

    After concluding his speech, when the media accosted him asking him whether he was speaking against party line, Tiwari dismissed such suggestions.

    The JD(U) leader said Modi's ideology is dangerous. Any patriotic person will have to oppose Modi, he said.

    JD(U) leader Shivanand Tiwari praises Narendra Modi at party meet - The Economic Times

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    Imagine the total chaos and confusion in the mind that Modi has caused in the politics of the Nation.
     
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    JDU leader Shivanand Tiwari praises Modi, attacks Nitish

    Patna: Janata Dal United leader Shivanand Tiwari embarrassed his party by openly praising Bharatiya Janata Party prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi at the party's convention in Rajgir on Tuesday. He then went on to attack party leader and Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar. "JDU's alliance with the BJP was working fine. JDU broke ties with the BJP because of national politics. BJP elevated Narendra Modi, who comes from a very humble ground. He has struggled a lot to reach where he is today and for this I admire him a lot. We will fight him but we should also be aware of his strengths," he said as Nitish Kumar and other JDU leaders looked on. Questioning why Nitish Kumar was jealous of Modi, Tiwari praised Modi's 'modest background'. "I am an old colleague of yours Nitishji, I would be happy when my friends will move ahead. This demand for special package for Bihar was my idea," he said.

    Tiwari added, "We don't want to be the Prime Minister. When someone is shining, what is the harm in working together with a large heart? Why are you jealous," Tiwari questioned, leading to an uproar at the convention. Many may raise questions if Tiwari is keen on joining the BJP. Shivanand Tiwari has been unhappy at being sidelined within the JD(U). He was recently removed as the spokesperson of the party. His term as the Rajya Sabha MP, too, is coming to an end and there is a possibility that he may not get a second term. Along with JD(U) chief Sharad Yadav, he has been of the view that it was a mistake for Nitish to have snapped off ties with the BJP. Tiwari in fact has an image of being a political turncoat who was with RJD while Lalu Prasad was in power and then moved to JD(U) as Nitish's clout grew in Bihar.

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    Who knows Congress might keep one community a fool as usual and keep them poor and scaring them of boogeyman MODI. :rolleyes:
     
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    All Drama sala sab ek ho gayege when power sharing ki bata ayegi
     
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    I have yet to come across a person like Nitish. He fought for a special package for Bihar by calling Bihar a backward state and how stupid can a person be?????
    The Khangrass made a fool of him by appointing Raghurajan committee to decide about the status of states. They id a very smart thing, instead of using per capita income they used per capita expenditure as a grading system.
    The net result was that Khangrass fooled Nitish and Biharies by putting them in same category as Gujrat. That resulted in Gujrat being degraded but also ensured Bihar being upgraded. That sealed the issue of special status for Bihar.
    This idiot has been making a fool of Biharies by claiming that Khangrass will support him but the truth is that khangrass has made a bloodyfool of him already by miles.
     
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    recently i read that i has been quietly scrapped as there where protest by other states
     

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