Japan's PM vows to help Philippines amid China row

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  1. Yusuf

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    Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe pledged to strengthen the Philippines' maritime defence capabilities on Saturday, while reassuring neighbours about Tokyo's intentions amid growing territorial disputes with regional rival China.

    "For Japan, the Philippines is a strategic partner


    with whom we share fundamental values and many strategic interests," Abe told a joint news conference with Philippine President Benigno Aquino after their meeting in Manila.
    Speaking through an interpreter, Abe said his visit was intended "to strengthen the relations with the Philippines in all areas", including politics, security, and the economy.

    As part of Japan's commitment, Abe said there would be "continued assistance to the capacity-building of the Philippine coastguard".

    As an example of this, he cited 10 patrol boats that Japan is providing to the poorly-equipped Philippine coast guard.

    The Filipino coastguard and navy have been at the forefront of tense encounters with navy and maritime surveillance vessels from China, which claims most of the South China Sea including areas close to the Filipino coast.

    China seized the Scarborough Shoal, a South China Sea outcrop just 230 kilometres (140 miles) east of the main Philippine island of Luzon, last year after Manila backed down from a lengthy stand-off.

    This year the Philippines has complained about the presence of Chinese navy vessels near Filipino-held Second Thomas Shoal in the Spratly islands.

    Japan earlier this year announced it would make loans to the Philippines to purchase the 10 Japanese patrol vessels for its coastguard.

    "The Prime Minister and I agreed to strengthen maritime cooperation which is a pillar of our strategic partnership," Aquino said on Saturday.

    Abe's visit came as tensions have also steadily risen between China and Japan over Japanese-controlled islands in the East China Sea.

    He reiterated a call for a leaders' summit with China to discuss their territorial dispute, and assured the rest of Asia that his vision for a more robust Japanese armed forces would not threaten the region's peace and security.

    Abe said Saturday his party's decisive victory in the upper house of the Japanese parliament would help him pursue his vision of Tokyo's role in the region, many parts of which were under brutal Japanese occupation in World War II.

    "Against this backdrop I intend to further proceed with strategic diplomacy which will contribute to regional and global peace and security," he said.

    Abe has pledged to loosen limits on the military in Japan's pacifist, post-war constitution and stand up to China over their East China Sea dispute.

    He acknowledged at a separate news conference, after he appeared with Aquino, that a more assertive Japanese military was a sensitive issue in the region.

    "I intend to explain politely so that the countries in the region will not have any misunderstanding," he said.

    Abe said problems with China were "inevitable" being neighbours, but stressed that peaceful coexistence between the two regional powers was crucial for Asian peace and prosperity.

    "It is important that we have frank and candid discussions. I have given instructions so that the foreign affairs authorities (can) proceed with dialogue without any conditions attached. Foreign ministers-level and leaders-level meetings should be promptly held."

    As Abe and Aquino met at the presidential palace, about 80 protesters including elderly ladies who said they were former comfort women staged a rally nearby, holding signs demanding reparations from Japan.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...lippines-amid-China-row/Article1-1099443.aspx
     
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  3. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Now if this is the 'militarism' Japan shows to countries who have a hassle with China, then Abe will be revered all around.
     
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    Man can wait for Japanese sub and warship to be station here more forces here the better those imperials can stay away from Philippines
     
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    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    yes next thing you know, phillippine is back to japan control just like wwii
     
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    s002wjh Senior Member Senior Member

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    there is only 2 country in the region japan can work with, vietnam/phillippine, 1 not in the region india.
     
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    You maybe right.

    But China's hegemonic ambitions and dreams have spooked so many around the region, right up to Australia that things are viewed universally.

    India comes in since it has economic interests with Vietnam!

    Just as legitimate as China has with African areas and oil!
     
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    I do not understand Japanese policy. Presently they are sending their Vice Foreign Minister Akitaka Saiki to china for improving tie over Senkaku island matter and other side they want to support Philippines against china. Do Japanese want to shoot the Chinese by putting gun on other country’s shoulder?
     
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    that assessment is wrong one japan stated that the problem should be solve under international law second support from japan is more law enforcement and economic and less militarily due to earlier stand on the issue
     
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    Yes, so many countries are so worried that there is no one is trying to set up an military alliance with Japan and Philippine, not even vietnam.


    Yes, mighty india is coming with empty word.

    Yes, the difference is that China is pumping out millions of barrels of olil each day from afrian while India is not receiving a drop of oil yet.
     
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    I presume you have not heard of the US initiative.

    Again indication of lack of knowledge.

    The void in knowledge continues.
     
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    Hey chekwa imperials are like that
     
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    what kind hegemonic are you refer too. the dayio island is dispute betweeh china/taiwan vs japan, SCS has dispute between several nations. if we look at japan dispute, it has dispute with korea, russia, taiwan, and china.
    china never claim anything on australia.
    the only reason china is in the spotlight is because its big and has power to do its bidding. all the other nation has same amount of dispute compare to china. look at vietnam dispute vs phillippine, mala, burnei etc etc
     
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    I presume you have not heard of the US's vague stance politically.
    On one hand they asked Chinese not to challenge Japanese's management on that island, on the other hand they said that the sovereignty over the island was not decided yet!
    On one hand they claimed the peace over that island is protected by itself, on the other hand they tell Japanese to avoid any military confrentation.
    So, even Japanese don't know whether or not americans will come to their aid in any potential conflict over there!


    Would you like to share your "knowledge" that no one know?
     
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    Disputes are solved internationally by dialogue.

    Hegemony means preponderant influence or authority over others

    Therefore, when force and coercion through force, as is being done by China, is the means attempted to solve a dispute, the summation is that it it is not solving of dispute in a civilised manner, and instead it is exercising force and intimidation This attempt to exert preponderant influence through military and quasi military means is what is termed a hegemonic pursuits!
     
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    Apparently you are not conversant how international dispute is to be solved.

    he use of force or encouraging the use of force to solve disputes is never advocated by any interested third party.

    The US stand is very correct. While it is categorical that Japan has the right to management of the rocks, the US, as a friend of Japan, is deterring Japan from the path of confrontation.

    I would take it that Japan is aware on which side the US will tilt in case of a confrontation., even if neither side has publicly expressed their stand. The point is so evident.

    If the US was not on the side of those who China is having territorial disputes, then would the US move the strategic pivot to Asia?

    The knowledge is there in the public domain.

    It appears that you alone are the one who is ignorant.

    Study and ye shall know.

    Spoonfeeding is a total no no to education.

    Struve for knowledge and you will be better equipped!
     
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    When push comes to shove in the Pacific the US has 2 choices: 1) Honor its MDTs with Japan and Philippines (show to allies and China that the US will defend its position in the Pacific) or 2) Appease China by staying neutral (a tacit ceding of the Pacific to China). Which path do you think the US will choose?
     
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    No one has to choose from the 2 u exaggerated. Neither scenario will happen
    1) The situation won't arise for resorting to MDT. No war is needed to achieve the territorial claim (reference: Huangyan/ Scourborough Reef)
    2) China can't gulp the whole (West) Pacific down. Most likely a new equilibrium will come into being - Status-quo-ist more or less accepts the demands of Revisionist, then rebalancing.
     
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    well depend on situation. china will push phillippine/japan to fire the 1st shot, then its within its right to defend themself afterward. so there is gonna be taunting from china to dare vietnam/phillippine/japan to fire upon their ship/planes. if that happen, then its hard for US to get involved, because china will claim its they are not the aggressor. also not many american won't a war over few rock thats not even americans.
     
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    It's quite naive to believe in MDT or the likes. Treaties are scraps of wastepaper that countries won't honour unless they're found in their own interest. A provocative "first shot" is often unnecessary. Preemptive attacks can always be justified since might is right.

    Did Soviet Union fulfill its obligation towards Vietnam according to MDT when China spanked VN to save Cambodia in 1979?

    Is anyone still asking US to produce evidence for Iraqi WMD after Saddam was hanged?

    And Russia beating Georgia...

    WMD = Words of Massive Deception

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    Wow so whats the point of you making treaties then?
     

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