Japan marks 'return of sovereignty' day

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  1. Razor

    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    Japan marks 'return of sovereignty' day

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    Source: BBC News - Japan marks 'return of sovereignty' day

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    China just expelled all their fish boats at Daiyu island a few day ago.

    What JP can do is talk strong and do nothing, same as their US papa.

    PS. Yestady US said again they will defend JP, but did US did any thing to help out JP and Philipinese?
     
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    Japan along with the Philipines, Taiwan and South Korea will sooner or later develop nuclear weapons so they can defend them selves agains t
    Chinese agression. Its just a matter of time if they already havent.
     
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    Sound great, But when? After China took all of them?

    BTW, how nuclear weapons can help them, if they can be killed out by only 1 or 2 nukes?
     
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    Razor CIDs from Tamilnadu Senior Member

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    I'm sure, you wouldn't have said the same 70 or so years back, when they killed your men and ploughed through your wimmen. And you'd be wise not to talk about the future as it is difficult to ascertain its path esp. since PRCs rise is not viewed with joy.
     
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    The United States deliberately allowed Japan access to the United States’ most secret nuclear weapons facilities while it transferred tens of billions of dollars worth of American tax paid research that has allowed Japan to amass 70 tons of weapons grade plutonium since the 1980s, a National Security News Service investigation reveals. These activities repeatedly violated U.S. laws regarding controls of sensitive nuclear materials that could be diverted to weapons programs in Japan. The NSNS investigation found that the United States has known about a secret nuclear weapons program in Japan since the 1960s, according to CIA reports.

    United States Circumvented Laws To Help Japan Accumulate Tons of Plutonium
    United States Circumvented Laws To Help Japan Accumulate Tons of Plutonium « DC BureauDC Bureau

    While Japan has refrained from deploying nuclear weapons and remains under an umbrella of U.S. nuclear protection, NSNS has learned that the country has used its electrical utility companies as a cover to allow the country to amass enough nuclear weapons materials to build a nuclear arsenal larger than China, India and Pakistan combined.

    The Independent, Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara asserted that Japan could develop nuclear weapons within a year and send a strong message to the world. “All our enemies: China, North Korea and Russia – all close neighbors – have nuclear weapons. Is there another country in the world in a similar situation? People talk about the cost and other things but the fact is that diplomatic bargaining power means nuclear weapons. All the [permanent] members of the [United Nations] Security Council have them.” Ishihara told The Independent the clash, which ended when police released the captain of the Chinese ship accused of ramming the Japanese coast guard vessel, had exposed his country’s weakness in Asia. “China wouldn’t have dared lay a hand on the Senkakus [if Japan had nuclear weapons].”
     
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    Time can not go back, right?

    If you don't like reality, you can read your favored history book all day long.
     
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    Well, history can not be assumed.

    Again, how can JP do a few day back in Diaoyu island if they do have nuclear weapons?
     
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    Thus, we hope.
    My point was that history is replete with ups and downs and that is reality.
    Fortunately for you, the CCP leadership is pretty effective and sharp.
    Anyway, my last post regarding China, as this seems OT.
     
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    Follow by your logic, you think 1962 will be repeat?
     
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    Diaoyu island is just the match that lights the fuse to Japan equipmenting itself with nuclear weapons. Japnese are too proud to allow themselves to be push around by China.
     
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    So, if JP do had nuclear weapons, they will act something different? War with China?

    Wait, US do have a lot of nuclear weapons , right? They should use their nuclear weapons to save their allies.
     
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    We had done it befor, but theres no doubt that if Chinese continute their agressive expanisonist policy that Japan will rearm including nuclear weapons, its what i would do if I was them.
     
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    China already took islands from Phillipinese and Japanese, when will US fight for them?
    Strong words can't help anything.

    Ps, So you think JP not go for nuclear weapon, becoz China is not agreesive enough? LOL
     
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    As long as China is acting as a bully Japan will develope nuclear weapons thats a forgone conclusion, what happens after that is any ones guess. So far China has not done anything, if China starts a war with Japan, then the USA will be involved. One thing the USA long ago realized is to give into totalitarian communist dictatorships just invites more agression. The day will come when China has to make the decision is killing 127 Million Japanese worth the lives of 1.5 billion Chinese. The USA has lived under the threat of nuclear war since World War II and been more then willing to go to the edge when threaten by the Soviet Union thats not going to change with China. If China wants to start a war with Japan we will be there.
     
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    China has not done anything? Really? Dreaming?

    Yes, US will be there to watch as when we took island from its allies.

    Ps, nuclear weapon can not be done right after you made a decision, before that you can be wipe off on the earth.
     
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    China is makeing claims, the push around a few unarmed fishing boats, buts thats their limit.
     
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    Really? Can you push around fishing boats at Hainan island?

    BTW, we just asked philipinese get out off a list of 8 islands, they rejected. You will see how we will force them out soon.

    Let's see how US help their allies now.
     
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    I guess its up to China if they want a war and I expect they do., so its inevitable. I have seen it all befor.
     

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