Japan casts shadow on China’s bullet train ambition with India

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  1. pmaitra

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    Japan casts shadow on China’s bullet train ambition with India

     
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    I would advise against it, although Chinese stuff it at half price. Guaranteed it is not durable.

    Remember that incident in Pakistani Railways, when they bought about 100 locomotives from China. On arrival in Pakistan 90% did not work. Only three or four plied on Pakistani commercial routes.

    Hence asking for Chinese participation in this huge corridor is full of risk. China is still a maker of consumer goods . Their industrial capability to deliver huge durable industrial goods free of defects is still in doubt.
     
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    It is better to be with Japan than with China.

    1) We cant trust China cuz and they would turn our own money against us using Pakistan or themselves.
    2) Japan is more durable when it comes to nation to nation relationship as well as for quality of services and products.

    http://www.niticentral.com/2014/08/...modi-abe-to-discuss-bullet-trains-236698.html
     
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    LOL, lets see Japanese quality of services and products.

    25 April 2005 , 107 killed and 562 injured ( ~700 passengers on that train)
    Amagasaki rail crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    November 9, 1963 162 killed and 120 injured
    Tsurumi rail accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    See Western media just focus on that single accident in China, but ignore those much much deadly accidents in Japan.
     
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    Chinese Accidents:
    Rongjiawan, Yueyang 126 killed, 230 injured .
    Zibo train collision 72 people dead, 416 injuries.
    Wenzou Trail Collision 40 people dead 400+ injuries.
    List of rail accidents in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Just look at the accidents in the last 20 years alone.
     
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    No Chinese please... they are simply do not match up to European or Japanese quality...
     
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    None of them can compare to Amagasaki rail crash .

    25 April 2005 , 107 killed and 562 injured ( total ~700 passengers on that train)
    Amagasaki rail crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    @CCP it's laughable In just the last 10 years you have had 8 accidents that have 200+ casualties, and over 900 injured. Probability of crashes are much higher than Japanese. More crashes=more chances of deaths. But you still claim that the Chinese trains are safer?

    You need to goto 2005, then to 1991, then to the 1960s to find Japanese accidents.
     
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    Then,
    How many casualties and injured in Japan in last 10 years ?

    How many trains are China operating and how many trains are Japan operating?

    BTW, do you have the list of Train accidents in Japan?
     
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    List of notable Japanese accidents:News and Photos of Japan - Long List of Train Accidents in Japan (upto 2005), after which there have been no serious accidents, and very few minor accidents, when compared to China)
    Lists of rail accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    List of notable Chinese: List of rail accidents in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    More relevant, there has been no fatal accidents WRT to Shinkasen
    5 Things to Know About Japan’s Shinkansen Bullet Trains - WSJ
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8ed0f124-4960-11e4-8d68-00144feab7de.html#axzz3KiPBYTYz
     
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    You do not have the list of Japan after 2005, how could you conclude " there have been no serious accidents, and very few minor accidents, when compared to China"




    "December 27, 1995: Accident at Mishima Station on the Shinkansen line of JR Central: 1 passenger killed. The first fatal accident since the inauguration of the Shinkansen line in 1964."

    Chin had also only one fatal accident right?
    Notice that, we have much more high speed trains than Japan and operating in much faster speed.
     
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    did you go through he second link?
    So Japan has none, after 50 years.
     
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    "December 27, 1995: Accident at Mishima Station on the Shinkansen line of JR Central: 1 passenger killed. The first fatal accident since the inauguration of the Shinkansen line in 1964."
     
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    Student got caught in the car door, and dragged out, this is actually the only casualty.
    On the other hand:
    Wenzhou train collision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    I would not go for Chinese stuff.

    They are usually substandard and shoddy.
     
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