J-16 Chinese fighter/bomber

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  1. ice berg

    ice berg Senior Member Senior Member

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    Some news from chinese internet using Google translation:

    "China's development," F -16 fighter-bombers is progressing smoothly, F -16 fighter-bombers mount heavy-duty air-to-ground missile can perform more extensive combat and air support missions,
    Reported that the Chinese navy is very satisfied with the performance of the Su-30MK2, thus requiring the Shenyang Aircraft Manufacturing Company production compared multipurpose fighter combat uses mainly focus on strengthening the development of China's anti-ship missile precision strike surface targets .


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    The Shenyang J-16 fighter/bomber is a new Su-27/Su-30 variation designed and manufactured by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, China. This is a multi-role fighter/bomber variant based on the J-11BS with longer range and upgraded avionics, the concept is similar to F-15E fighter/bomber. The first few photos of J-16 were published on Chinese internet websites around June 2012. It appears J-16 has a slightly different vertical stabilizer compared to J-11 fighter or J-15 naval fighter. It is also equipped with missile pylons for Chinese PL-8 air-to-air missiles, another difference compared to earlier J-11 variants.
     
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    yeah sara sar chori ha:scared2::scared2::scared2:
     
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    Too much Bollywoods damages your intelligence, seriously.
     
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    You understand Hindi? Watching too much Bollywood, eh?
     
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    DaTang Tihar Jail Banned

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    I respect India as an ancient civilization and its hard working people. Indian culture amazes me and I am not alone in China.
    But no, I don't watch too much Bollywood, this genre of movie even annoys Indian themselves
     
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    is that ws-10 engine?
     
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    after two Prototypes(PT1601 and 1602) were spotted in the test flights,the SBP(small batch production--might be similar to the LSP concept) of J16 Attack Fighter has begun. the second one(1612) of this SBP flied months ago...this small batch birds would be handed over to some Combat unit soon.

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    Indigenisation by hook or crook:thumb:

    I guess chinese are the good customers to Russia , we pay russia & they delay , not provide complete TOT

    But Chinese buy few reverse engineer many & make a fool of russia :toilet:
     
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    According to the maps and documents found in china recently it is actually designed by quin dynasty in 6th century bc.
     
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    How different is J-16 , J-11B from the Su-30 & Su-27 :rolleyes: ??
     
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    some simple visual identification first (above: Imported Su27SK---middle: SAC's J11 ----below: J11B..)

    1. the Painting Theme is different...Ex. Su27/J11 has a "Gray" head, and J11B has a "Black" one
    2. the Wing tip pylons...J11B's Pylons is for PL8B SRAAM with a much larger wingspan which makes the pylons a bit thicker

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    J11B improvments:

    1. except the first batch of J11B(around 30 jets), J11B has the WS10A engine intstead of AL31F

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    2. all new acionics :

    a planar slot array antennas PD Radar ,
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    redesigned glass cockpit featuring 5 MFDs (3 large-scale and 2 small ones)and a new wide-angle holographic HUD
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    3. a new UV band missile approach warning system (MAWS).


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    4. PLAAF standard AAMs: PL8,PL12

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    J16 and Su30MKK attacker

    simple visual identification :

    1. Su30MKK has the same painting theme with Su27SK with a Gray radar dome but partly painted in " Light Gray", J16 would be painted in all Light Gray( PLAAF use the Black Dome for planar slot array antennas, Gray for ESA, and Green for the old monopulse radar as visual identification for the maintance teams--although the maintance approach and standard for the radar domes are similar , some different requirements exsit)

    2. the top of vertical fin

    3. the Engine and the MAWS

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    the J16's Improvement

    1. ALL new Gen of Avionics (this came from the lost bidding team for J20 Project's Avionics Sub-system bid) with a AESA Radar as the core
    2. Standard PLAAF A-A and A-G weapon package: PL10, PL12,PL15,KD-88 ASM and LS-500J LGB
    3. All new improved FBW system

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    PLAAF also operates another two Seater varient which might be confused with J16 Attact planes--the trainer J11BS to replace the imported Su27UBK

    visual identification
    1. Gray and Black domes
    2. J16 would use the new Gen SRAAM -PL10 as the standard WVR weapon. so the wing tip Pylons changed again
    3. J16 has a retractable IFR probe

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    after the long waiting ,finally J16 twin seats Multi-role Fighter/Attacker joined the PLAAF combat unit... the commission of another model with new avionics and AESA radar would somehow improve the PLAAF's combat ability...
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    So this is the copy of Su 30MKK?
     
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    Cross-post

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    the first prototype of this long waited ,important ELectronic Warfare varient for both PLAAF and PLAN maid the maiden flight on Dec 18th ,2015...

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    the EA-18G style EW pod ( ALQ-218V ) on both wingtips is the key feature of this new varient...

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    here's a reposted image from Keypublishing site to explain some other features of this new EW plane which would save quite some time for me...

    above: J-16 EW plane bellow : normal J-16 Attacker..
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