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The First Forced Landing of China J-10 Fighter
The First Forced Landing of China J-10 Fighter
I was wondering the same thing in some earlier posts.Chinese are crashing with AL-31 and Taihang another name for WS-10 has been ruled out for J-10 ;a limited amount of AL-31 given to China by Russia . What engine will go in Pakistan's version? (my guess WS-10 no matter how it performs?).
It doesn't matter what CCP says. They denied the 2007 crash and there are photos proving it happened. When a report comes out of China it crashed, it most likely did.CCP is not fond of denying such an unimportant untrue report.
And it is funny that so many Indian members here expressed their condolence before this news is confirmed. Isn't it too obvious? You can save that after more informaton is revealed, i believe that would be more appropriate.
Since when can you read Japanese? Do you know what kind of report that is?It doesn't matter what CCP says. They denied the 2007 crash and there are photos proving it happened. When a report comes out of China it crashed, it most likely did.
I really don't see any sensationalism in the news it is just trying to point out towards the crashes is it something wrong with that?^^ I don't think 5 crashes during 12 years of flight is a horrible track record at all. Indian sensationalism at its best...
Lets see, "high accident rate", "tortuous development", "faulty design", and a setback to Pakistan over this record. Sounds sensational to me with only 5 crashes in 12 years. It isn't like Chinese fighterpilots don't get 100+ hours a year. It isn't NATO hours, but they do fly enough to stay proficient. I bet J-10 pilots fly more than that considering these are their newest planes.I really don't see any sensationalism in the news it is just trying to point out towards the crashes is it something wrong with that?
As these are the newest planes so 5 crashes is a significant number, if it is normal then what is the purpose behind hiding the news at all?Lets see, "high accident rate", "tortuous development", "faulty design", and a setback to Pakistan over this record. Sounds sensational to me with only 5 crashes in 12 years. It isn't like Chinese fighterpilots don't get 100+ hours a year. It isn't NATO hours, but they do fly enough to stay proficient. I bet J-10 pilots fly more than that considering these are their newest planes.
any of the best engines can malfunction, there ain't anything surprising in ithttp://www.china-defense-mashup.com/?p=3900
One Chinese J-10 Fighter Crashed in August, its Pilot awarded merit
August 27 (China Defense Mashup Reporting by Johnathan Weng) — On August 25, the PLA Air Force awarded pilot Meng Fansheng the first-class merit for his successful disposing the air crisis of J-10 fighter.
On the eve of the Army Day which fell on August 1, Meng Fansheng, first-class pilot of the PLA Air Force, successfully parachuted under the situation of the abrupt loss of the engine power when he piloted his J-10 fighter to take off to the height of 680 m from the ground in the flight training.
PLA Air Force's investigation showed that the AL-31F engine malfunction cause this accident and Meng Fansheng attempted to resume the power for several times, and manipulated his J-10 fighter to avoid the populous areas twice in the handling of the serious special situation.
J-10 is Chinese first indigenous third-generation fighter but its power is AL-31F Turbofan engine imported from Russia. China has developed "Taihang" Turbofan engine but its quality is not stable and cannot be used in J-10 single engine fighter yet.
Chinese are crashing with AL-31 and Taihang another name for WS-10 has been ruled out for J-10 ;a limited amount of AL-31 given to China by Russia . What engine will go in Pakistan's version? (my guess WS-10 no matter how it performs?).
Only three of the crashes were operational, 2 were in testing and development, 1 of which was the ill fated decision to install the WS-10. The purpose is the same as all Chinese propaganda, to make them look better than they are. China wouldn't be making them by the hundreds if it wasn't operationally sound. You can tell which programmes of theirs are flops or not, the ones that don't get beyond an initial sampling.As these are the newest planes so 5 crashes is a significant number, if it is normal then what is the purpose behind hiding the news at all?
These pictures are from Nov 2008 and not much has changed with engine except the higher number WS-13 .Russians are only selling a limited quantity of AL-31's and chinese want them for themselves. Chinese are going to have to develop an engine if they want to export planes and they are sticking with their flop for the last 3 decades WS-10 as the engine to go into the exported planes.The Chinese are going to use Rd-93 in FC-1 after the WS-13 flopped so the question of what engine Pak will get still remains??any of the best engines can malfunction, there ain't anything surprising in it
WS-10 is a horror story uptill now
WS-10
the most obvious & good option for PAF will be AL-31 & Russians might allow it just like RD-93
What do you mean uptill now? WS-10 still isn't a production engine. Field of engineless J-11Bs to prove it.any of the best engines can malfunction, there ain't anything surprising in it
WS-10 is a horror story uptill now
Well propaganda can also be seen in terms of making the numbers so everything looks hunky dory. They chosen the Su 27 but wanted to make copy of it hence no further orders given for them. So only option left to them is J 10 or J 11Only three of the crashes were operational, 2 were in testing and development, 1 of which was the ill fated decision to install the WS-10. The purpose is the same as all Chinese propaganda, to make them look better than they are. China wouldn't be making them by the hundreds if it wasn't operationally sound. You can tell which programmes of theirs are flops or not, the ones that don't get beyond an initial sampling.
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