Its Not Buddhists Killing Muslims In Myanmar, Its Rohingya Muslims Killing Buddhists From 1947

[HeinzGud]

Why wouldn't they want to preserve their Identity.
I'm sorry but in this case the Sinhalese Majority was acting like a dictatorship.
Asking 20% population to shed their cultural Identity is by no means justifiable.

Instead you could have it like how it's in India, we have several languages based on regions and they all prosper equally.

By preserving the identity of the minority in a foreign country would always bring trouble down the road. Besides no one asked Tamils to shed their identity. It was only about learning to read and write the language of the majority. Unless otherwise, how would they have thought to live harmoniously?

We didn't follow the example of India. We followed the example of England. Which was historically and politically similar to Sri Lankan situation.

 

[HeinzGud]

Sinhala is not a pure and original language. Why should anyone speak it is a question

No language is pure and original. Languages are always evolving. Unless otherwise they will go extinct.

 

[HeinzGud]

The difference between tamil nadu and lanka is goo little to say they were not indigenous.

So you say Tamils originated in Sri Lanka? Then how did they originate in Tamilnadu?

It is actually strange that sinhala became a language at all considering it is an impure mix of Sanskrit + Pali + Tamil

Well look at the language of English. It's a mix of Celtic + Germanic + French. Do you suspect the authenticity of English as well?

 

[Vijyes]

By preserving the identity of the minority in a foreign country would always bring trouble down the road. Besides no one asked Tamils to shed their identity. It was only about learning to read and write the language of the majority. Unless otherwise, how would they have thought to live harmoniously?

We didn't follow the example of India. We followed the example of England. Which was historically and politically similar to Sri Lankan situation.

Sanskrit and tamil haven't changed or gone extinct. That justification is cheap. Sinhala changed their language and need to change back again. Who have preserved the identity have more value than people with artificial identity

 

[HeinzGud]

@Vijyes @Bhumihar

This guy @HeinzGud is a known anti Tamil,anti India and pro Sinhala Sri Lankan. He has in his previous posts advocated for Sri Lanka being a puppet colony to the Chinese rather than maintaining relations with India. He wants Sri Lanka to be a mini Pakistan.

He forgets Sinhalese people were actually Bengalis(Dravidian Bengali populace) who migrated to Ceylon before 1000 AD.

You should ignore this fellow.

I don't deny the fact that Sinhalese are descended from the people who were at one point migrated from the Indian main land.

But that doesn't make us foreigners of our own land and doesn't make Tamils the sole inhabitants of this island.

 

[Vijyes]

So you say Tamils originated in Sri Lanka? Then how did they originate in Tamilnadu?



Well look at the language of English. It's a mix of Celtic + Germanic + French. Do you suspect the authenticity of English as well?

Lankan were probably originally tamilians along with some migrants from India. Sinhalese betrayed their identity. Sinhalese are traitors.

Just because Rohingya come to lanka and produce 10 children to become majority, will you accept sinhala as minority?

 

[HeinzGud]

Sanskrit and tamil haven't changed or gone extinct. That justification is cheap. Sinhala changed their language and need to change back again. Who have preserved the identity have more value than people with artificial identity

So does Germanic languages, French and Latin. BTW Sanskrit is all but dead language. Just don't say otherwise.

Sinhalese have changed their language from what exactly? Anyhow one community can keep the original form of the language for 1000s of years. This clearly demonstrates why Tamils of North and East has minimal change in the language from the what is spoken in Tamilnadu.

 

[Vijyes]

I don't deny the fact that Sinhalese are descended from the people who were at one point migrated from the Indian main land.

But that doesn't make us foreigners of our own land and doesn't make Tamils the sole inhabitants of this island.

I too have been saying the same. Numbers don't matter. Righteousness does. By declaring that sinhala is right instead of accepting a more neutral language by dual language policy, things would have remained cordial. Why impose sinhala on Tamils when they never were politically active or causing any problems?

 

[Vijyes]

So does Germanic languages, French and Latin. BTW Sanskrit is all but dead language. Just don't say otherwise.

Sinhalese have changed their language from what exactly? Anyhow one community can keep the original form of the language for 1000s of years. This clearly demonstrates why Tamils of North and East has minimal change in the language from the what is spoken in Tamilnadu.

Linguistic forensic clearly states that sinhala was a mix of pali + tamil + Sanskrit. So, sinhala did change not because of evolution but because of buddhism spread by ashoka and consequently mixing of languages.

Tamils, both in India and lanka weren't interested in buddhism. Why is something I don't know.

 

[HeinzGud]

I too have been saying the same. Numbers don't matter. Righteousness does. By declaring that sinhala is right instead of accepting a more neutral language by dual language policy, things would have remained cordial. Why impose sinhala on Tamils when they never were politically active or causing any problems?

No one said Sinhala is right. It was only natural justification of changing from the foreign language to the language of the majority community.

It wasn't imposing anything on Tamils. They were ok with English so why can't they take Sinhala just the same? Besides how on earth Tamils could live in Sri Lanka if they didn't know the language of the majority?

Tamils were politically active before 1956. It was in 1947 that they have asked for 50-50 participation in Parliament. It was a blatant violation of democracy.

 

[HeinzGud]

Linguistic forensic clearly states that sinhala was a mix of pali + tamil + Sanskrit. So, sinhala did change not because of evolution but because of buddhism spread by ashoka and consequently mixing of languages.

Tamils, both in India and lanka weren't interested in buddhism. Why is something I don't know.

No one denies the fact that Sinhala is a mix of pali + tamil + Sanskrit. mixing of languages is the actual evolution of a language. Languages burrow words and stuff.

If you don't know something it is rather wise to not speak of it.

 

[HeinzGud]

Lankan were probably originally tamilians along with some migrants from India. Sinhalese betrayed their identity. Sinhalese are traitors.

Just because Rohingya come to lanka and produce 10 children to become majority, will you accept sinhala as minority?

What? probably Tamilians? What kind of nonsense is this?

There is nothing to betrayed. Sinhalese weren't Tamils in the first place.

 

[indus]

Can someone plz rename the thread from "Buddhists not killing Rohingyas in Myanmar" to "Sinhalese not killing Tamils" in Sri Lanka

 

[HeinzGud]

Don't you think Sinhala is a corrupt language and culture? Don't you you see that earlier Lanka was hindu and spoke Sanskrit or other Indian languahe. How do you think Rama communicated with Ravana/Vibheeshana? The foolish people gave up their culture and language and became Sinhala. Don't you think people who gave up their culture are foreign?

There is no way of knowing what the early people of Sri Lanka spoke or worshiped. They were probably not Hindus as the evidence from the prehistoric people revels in archaeological findings.

Rama/Ravana story has no connection with Sri Lanka. It was some fable of late 18th century and reinforced by the Tamil state worker people who got settled down in the central highlands.

There is nothing to gave up to. Sinhalese only developed a language from what they consider right and culture from what they consider fitting.

 

[Dovah]

Please post about the Sri Lankan Civil War/history/culture in the relevant thread. Off-topic posts will be deleted henceforth.

 

[afako]

These Bangladeshi ****** Rohingya Goons should be flushed out of India.

 

[ezsasa]

India refuses to join declaration against Myanmar at international meet

NUSA DUA: In a show of solidarity with Myanmar, India today refused to be a part of a declaration adopted at an international conference here as it carried "inappropriate" reference to violence in Rakhine state from where 125,000 Rohingyas have fled to Bangladesh.

An Indian parliamentary delegation, led by Speaker Lok Sabha Sumitra Mahajan, dissociated itself from the 'Bali Declaration' adopted at the 'World Parliamentary Forum on Sustainable Development' held here in Indonesia.

"This was in view of the fact that the declaration, which was to be adopted at the conclusion of the Forum, was not in line with the agreed global principles of 'sustainable development'," said a press release issued by the Lok Sabha Secretariat.

India reiterated its stance that the purpose of convening the Parliamentary forum was to arrive at mutual consensus for implementation of SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) which requires inclusive and broad-based development processes, it said.

"Therefore, the proposed reference to the violence in Rakhine state+ in the declaration was considered as not consensus-based and inappropriate," the release said.

The part of the declaration to which India objected spoke of the forum expressing "deep concern on ongoing violence in the Rakhine State of Myanmar, amongst others..."

The declaration went on to "call on all parties to contribute to the restoration of stability and security, exercise maximum self-restraint from using violent means, respect the human rights of all people in Rakhine State regardless of their faith and ethnicity, as well as facilitate and guarantee safe access for humanitarian assistance."

The Indian delegation took the stance on a day Prime Minister Narendra Modiconcluded his visit to Myanmar where he expressed solidarity with the government there against the "extremist violence"+ in the Rakhine state.

"The country-specific amendment to the draft declaration was proposed at the eleventh hour by selective countries which referred to the violence in Rakhine state of Myanmar.

"India argued that specifying a particular country is unjustified as this Forum is focussed on SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) and inclusive development for all countries based on cooperative and collaborative approach to achieve the 2030 Agenda for the world," the press release said.

India said, "Never before 'country-specific' issues have been included in the declaration as these dilute the objective of these Forums which require unity and focussed efforts of all the countries," the release said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...droidapp&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=show

 

[here2where]

India refuses to join declaration against Myanmar at international meet

Glad we are behaving like an asian giant at last.
Yes we need to be with myanmar at this crucial juncture in that country's troubled history , and deal with this rohingya menace. Bloody muslims have been a problem in every country where they have not been shown their place.

 

[sorcerer]

Rohingyas Issue Is Similar To India's Kashmir Issue, Says Myanmar's Suu Kyi


Equating Rohingya Muslims issue in the Rakhine state with India's Kashmir issue, Myanmar's State Councillor Aung San Suu Kyi on Thursday said there is a similarity between Rohingya and Kashmir issue.

Suu Kyi said, "We are facing the same problem as India is facing in Kashmir".

"We have to take care of innocent citizens as our resources are not as adequate as required, but we try our best and make ensure that every citizen is entitled to the protection of law," she added.

Elaborating on the difficulties her government is facing, Suu Kyi said, "We have to think about how to differentiate between terrorists and innocent people. You in India are well-versed with this, because India has a large Muslim community and in place like Kashmir, where you face terrorism, the trouble of sorting out the terrorists from the innocent citizen and all those who are not involved in the terrorist movement at all, comes up."

Suu Kyi further said that the issue of the Rohingya Muslims is one of the biggest challenges, dating back to pre-colonial times and hence, will take time to be resolved.

"The issue [Rohingya Muslims] is one of the biggest challenges Myanmar has to face, because you know that the situation in Rakhine has been difficult for many decades and infact it goes right back to pre-colonial times," Suu Kyi told ANI.

She added, "It is a little unreasonable to expect that the issue can be resolved in 18 months as you know that our administration has been in power for the last 18 months."

The state councillor said that her government is trying to progess on the development front, which is one of the 'biggest problems' as the matter is "we have very limited resources".

Suu Kyi said, "We are implementing recommendations given by former U.N. secretary-general Kofi Annan as quickly as possible to create harmony and peace in the Rakhine state. Our recommendation is harmony and we shall be addressing it quickly."

"A commission led by former U.N. secretary-general Kofi Annan has recommended economic development and social justice to counter the deadly violence between Buddhists and Muslims in the Rakhine state," she added.

Earlier, Prime Minister Modi had earlier said that India shares Myanmar's concern on extremist violence in the Rakhine state and that he hopes that all stakeholders can find a solution, in which the unity and the territorial integrity of the country is maintained, together.

Suu Kyi thanked Prime Minister for taking a strong stand on the terror threat that Myanmar faced and assured India that 'terror would not be allowed to take roots in her country.'

"Together both countries will ensure that terror is not allowed to take roots in our country," de-facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi said.

"We would like to thank India for the strong stand that it has taken with regard to the terrorist threat that came to our country," said Aung San Suu Kyi, to which Prime Minister Modi responded that "India completely understands the challenges."

https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...ias-kashmir-issue-says-myanmars-suu-ky/301375

 

[ezsasa]

Glad we are behaving like an asian giant at last.
Yes we need to be with myanmar at this crucial juncture in that country's troubled history , and deal with this rohingya menace. Bloody muslims have been a problem in every country where they have not been shown their place.

i was watching BBC piece on this rohingya issue. if we replace a few words of what the guy was saying, replace buddhists with hindus, rohingya with kashmiri muslims , myanmar with india/kashmir, burmese hindus with kashmiri pundits , it is kashmir story of early 90's all over again.

same ditto narrative, different players..