Italian bravery

[Godless-Kafir]

 

[Bangalorean]

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[civfanatic]

Well i guess Italians never miss an opportunity to live up to their reputation as cowards.

Tell that to Super Mario.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

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[W.G.Ewald]

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[Bhadra]

Italians are the most unfriendly and mafia type of people.

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I found Italians to be very humble and friendly specially those in NGOs and International organisation like UNICEF. Yes they have tendencies like others to form their groups.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

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[TrueSpirit]

Italians are the most unfriendly and mafia type of people.

comment are from personnel account

Once a relative of mine sent some goods to Italy and the mafia held up a trade vessel at port due to lack of payment.

I found Italians to be very humble and friendly specially those in NGOs and International organisation like UNICEF. Yes they have tendencies like others to form their groups.

So, is it like this: The humble Italians join NGO's & UNICEF while the not-so-humble Italians join the mafia & become unfriendly to people....?

 

[TrueSpirit]

This thread is yet another attempt in branding South European countries as lazy, good-for-nothing, complacent, cowards etc. It is a becoming popular notion these days.

However all this is baseless stereotyping. One cant base his view of an entire nation on the actions of one individual.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

So, is it like this: The humble Italians join NGO's & UNICEF while the not-so-humble Italians join the mafia & become unfriendly to people....?

My favorite Italian is Guglielmo Marconi.

 

[TrueSpirit]

My favorite Italian is Guglielmo Marconi.

For most DFI members, it would be between Silvio Berlusconi & Sonia Gandhi

We hardly know any other Italian

 

[Ray]

Italian Bravery?

Is that not an oxymoron?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Italian Bravery?

Is that not an oxymoron?

Not always.

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[TrueSpirit]

Italian Bravery?

Is that not an oxymoron?

Sir, how did the Italians develop such a reputation ?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Sir, how did the Italians develop such a reputation ?

At a prewar diplomatic conference, the Nazi Foreign Minister Ribbentrop said to Eden and Churchill that if there was another war, the Italians would be on Germany's side...

To which Churchill supposedly replied: "that seems only fair, we had them last time!."

 

[TrueSpirit]

At a prewar diplomatic conference, the Nazi Foreign Minister Ribbentrop said to Eden and Churchill that if there was another war, the Italians would be on Germany's side...

To which Churchill supposedly replied: "that seems only fair, we had them last time!."

that was a good one, Sir.

However, I am still curious to understand how did the Italians came to be branded such ?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

that was a good one, Sir.

However, I am still curious to understand how did the Italians came to be branded such ?

First World War.com - Battles - The Battle of Caporetto, 1917

The scale of the Italian setback - some 300,000 casualties had been incurred (90% of which were as prisoners), with virtually all artillery lost - had already produced sizeable shockwaves among the Allied governments. At home Cadorna was dismissed ...and replaced by Armando Diaz; a new Prime Minister, Vittorio Orlando, similarly took office, replacing Boselli. He promptly received assurances of increased military support from Allied governments.

 

[Ray]

Sir, how did the Italians develop such a reputation ?

They were not quite upto the mark in WW II.

When the Italians actually had to fight a modern, well trained army, such as the Australians, or the British, the Italians fell apart, and surrendered in their thousands.

That reputation stuck.

You may see this also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_African_Campaign

 

[TrueSpirit]

So, going by that standard, Pakis are the new Italians, given their performance in 1971 ?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Five Costa Concordia staff convicted over shipwreck in Italy | World news | guardian.co.uk

An Italian court has convicted five people of manslaughter and negligence over the shipwreck of the Costa Concordia cruise liner that left 32 people dead.

The court in the Tuscan town of Grosseto accepted plea bargains for the Costa Cruises employees on Saturday, handing the harshest sentence to the company's crisis co-ordinator, Roberto Ferranini, who will serve two years and 10 months in jail.

The ship's hotel director was sentenced to two years and six months while two bridge officers and a helmsman got sentences ranging from 20 to 23 months. None are likely to go to jail as sentences under two years are suspended, and the longer sentences may be appealed or replaced with community service, judicial sources said.

The plea bargains were handled separately from the trial of the Costa Concordia captain, Francesco Schettino, who is charged with manslaughter for causing the shipwreck in January 2012 off the Tuscan island of Giglio and for abandoning the vessel with thousands on board. If found guilty, he faces up to 20 years in prison.