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It belongs to China
Posted April 28th, 2012 by Manila Standard Today & filed under Opinion.

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By Victor N. Arches II

The Scarborough Shoal does belong to China which discovered it and drew it in a map as early as 1279 during the Yuan Dynasty. Chinese fishermen, from both the Mainland and Taiwan, have since used it. As a matter of fact, Guo Shoujing, (the Chinese astronomer, engineer and mathematician who worked under the Mongol ruler, Kublai Khan) performed surveying of the South China Sea, and the surveying point was the Scarborough Shoal which is considered part of the Zhongsha Islands (renamed Huangyan Island in 1983).

By contrast, the "old maps" being relied upon by our Department of Foreign Affairs in its spurious claim on the same territory were drawn up only in 1820, or 541 years after China's. I am surprised that Senator Edgardo Angara—supposedly a renowned lawyer—can claim that a map drawn 5 centuries and 4 decades after, takes precedence over the much earlier map of China.

But I am all the more astonished that Fr. Joaquin Bernas, in his April 22 article in another newspaper, being one of the main framers of the 1987 Constitution, uses the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea as his basis to defend the Philippine claim. This, despite and after acknowledging the fact that, indeed, "the Scarborough Shoal is OUTSIDE THE LIMITS set by the Treaty of Paris for Philippine territory." What kind of double-speak is that?

So, what exactly was the territory we declared independence from the US in 1946? Why is it that NONE of our constitutions, past and present, from 1899, 1935, 1943, 1973, 1986 and 1987, include either the Spratlys or the Scarborough Shoal within our declared national territory? Where, or from whom, did we, all of a sudden, acquire title to these? Out of thin air?

In the late 1970s, China organized many scientific expeditions in the Shoal and around that area. In fact, in 1980, a stone marker reading "South China Sea Scientific Expedition" was installed by China on the South Rock. This Chinese marker was removed, without authority, by the Philippines in 1997.

All official maps published by the Philippines until the 1990s excluded both the Spratlys and Scarborough Shoal from its territorial boundaries. Our own Republic Act No. 3046, passed by our Congress and approved in 1961, stopped us from our claim. Yet, we had the temerity to amend this law on March 10, 2009, after 48 long years, to unilaterally include the disputed territories.

But what takes the cake is the fact that China holds three international treaties in support of its claim over the territories in question—namely, the 1898 Treaty of Paris between the US and Spain, the 1900 Treaty of Washington between Spain and the US, and the 1930 Treaty between Great Britain and the US, all limiting Philippine territorial limits to the 118th degree meridian of longitude east of Greenwich.

On the other hand, the basis of the Philippine claim is restricted to proximity, relying solely on the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. As far as I know, a mere "convention" cannot overturn or supersede a treaty or an agreement reached between colonial powers. And even if it were considered a "law", it cannot be made to take effect retroactively.

Whom are we fooling?

Mr. Arches is from San Juan City. He is a retired investment and merchant banker, a retired Certified Public Accountant, and a retired economist who loves to dabble in history and political science, among many other interests.



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(Published in the Manila Standard Today newspaper on /2012/April/28)


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Nobody cares, China can suck an egg. Come and get it. USN has arranged to make some new reef's out there. If we go by the Chinese maps, the real ones and their theory behind possession of land, Tibet, heck even China should belong to India.
 

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China map lays claim to Americas

A map due to be unveiled in Beijing and London next week may lend weight to a theory a Chinese admiral discovered America before Christopher Columbus.



The map, which shows North and South America, apparently states that it is a 1763 copy of another map made in 1418.

If true, it could imply Chinese mariners discovered and mapped America decades before Columbus' 1492 arrival.

The map, which is being dated to check it was made in 1763, faces a lot of scepticism from experts.

Chinese characters written beside the map say it was drawn by Mo Yi Tong and copied from a map made in the 16th year of the Emperor Yongle, or 1418.

It clearly shows Africa and Australia.

The British Isles, however, are not marked.

Controversial claim

The map was bought for about $500 from a Shanghai dealer in 2001 by a Chinese lawyer and collector, Liu Gang.

According to the Economist magazine, Mr Liu only became aware of the map's potential significance after he read a book by British author Gavin Menzies.

The book, 1421: The Year China discovered the World, made the controversial claim that a Chinese admiral and eunuch, Zheng He, sailed around the world and discovered America on the way.

Zheng He, a Muslim mariner and explorer, is widely thought to have sailed around South East Asia and India, but the claim he visited America is hotly disputed.

The map is now being tested to check the age of its paper and ink, with the results due to be known in February.

Even if it does prove to have been drawn in 1763, sceptics will point out that we still only have the mapmaker's word that he copied if from a 1418 map, rather than from a more recent one.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China map lays claim to Americas
American belongs to China.

The world belongs to China!

Maybe one day a map shall 'surface' showing that the Universe belongs to China!
 
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The Sun, Moon and the Stars too.

Everything under those belongs to China.

In fact, the Sun, Moon and the Stars also belong to China.

Watch the space for the map to surface!
 

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These Chinese (mainland) are pathetic. Look at their claim, it is resembling a "dick" that encompasses all the resource rich islands. Now that is an opportunistic territorial claim...




From now on I shall name the Chinese claim as the "CHINESE DICK CLAIM"... :rofl:
 
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These Chinese (mainland) are pathetic. Look at their claim, it is resembling a "dick" that encompasses all the resource rich islands. Now that is an opportunistic territorial claim...

From now on I shall name the Chinese claim as the "CHINESE DICK CLAIM"... :rofl:
Are u amazed at the UK's Falkland dick? :rofl:
 

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Just like I thought. None of the points raised by the article is discussed. People are into another dick measuring contest.

:rofl:

Keep the trolling and flamming coming, guys. This is what you are good at. :thumb:
 

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I say let the war begin otherwise everyone should back off worry something more important, no more drama.
 

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No but seems UK will have to give up the occupation of Malvinas soon.
actually, in human history, who strong who take more. and you guys have 5000km nuke bombs now, ones you guys help
argentina, UK will pee in paints. and you can give them another options, you guys can have a bet on a cricket game, UK will shit in paints.
 

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I say let the war begin otherwise everyone should back off worry something more important, no more drama.
Listen to the war drums

 
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