Israeli soldiers seen standing by as settlers use live fire against Palestinians

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  1. Son of Govinda

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    Israeli soldiers seen standing by as settlers use live fire against Palestinians - Telegraph

    A violent series of events that culminated in Israeli settlers opening fire with live ammunition on Palestinian villagers in the West Bank under the gaze of Israeli soldiers has been captured in a series of films posted on YouTube.

    The footage, filmed by local Palestinian women hiding in their homes on the outskirts of Asira village, shows an alarming and rapid escalation in violence, captured from the moment a group of settlers, some masked and armed with guns, descended from their hilltop settlement. The Yitzhar settlers claim Palestinians had lit fires around their outposts.

    The amateur footage shows the settlers gathered on the outskirts of the village throwing rocks, quickly met with a shower of stones from Palestinian youths who rushed from their homes to confront the mob. A few minutes later, Israeli boarder police are seen arriving at the fray.

    In the scenes that follow, several of the Jewish settlers armed with M4 rifles - one wearing what appears to be a police cap - point their guns at the group of Palestinian men and open fire. The Israeli soldiers present appear to do nothing to stop them from shooting.


    In this moment, Fathi Asayira, 24, is shot in the head. The urgent yells of Mr Asayira’s neighbours rushing to help him are captured in the footage, which has been collected and posted online by Israeli human rights group B’Tselem. Mr Asayira is currently in a stable condition in a hospital in Nablus. Five other Palestinians were injured by stones thrown during the incident.

    “The video footage raises grave suspicions that the soldiers present did not act to prevent the settlers from throwing stones and firing live ammunition at the Palestinians,” explains Sarit Mitchell, director of B’Tselem, a group that is closely monitoring an increase in violence perpetrated by Israeli settlers against Palestinian communities in the West Bank.

    “The [settler attack] itself is not unusual but it is rare for settlers to open fire. They have no authority to use live ammunition but in any case, you can see this was not a life threatening situation. And most severe of all, several soldiers are standing by and letting this happen.”

    According to the United Nations office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs in occupied Palestinian territory, the number of settler attacks on Palestinians and their properties has increased by 144 per cent since 2009. More than 90 per cent of complaints filed by Palestinians about settler violence have been closed by the Israeli police in recent years without indictment.

    B’Tselem has issued an urgent request to Israeli Judea and Samaria Police to arrest and prosecute those involved in the attack. The rights group has also written to the Military Police to request an investigation into why the Israeli soldiers failed to intervene to stop the violence.

    The Israeli Defence Force issued a statement on Monday acknowledging live ammunition had been fired during the incident and that Israeli soldiers had been present. “The incident is currently being investigated by the division commander. That said, it appears that the video in question does not reflect the incident in its entirety,” it read.
     
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  3. sob

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    What happens when Hamas regularly fires Rockets into Israeli settlements, targeting civilians. We need to be more objective while dealing with this situation.
     
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    :rotfl:

    In case you haven't noticed Israel and Hamas have a ceasefire in place.... Israel is the one that keeps violating it first by dropping airstrikes on entire communities to get at 1 or 2 suspected terrorists.

    Find me one situation where Palestinians have fired rockets at Israel without first being provoked by Israeli airstrikes and maybe I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    1) the throwing of stones is no different then an attempt at stabbing or shooting ( read how David killed Goliath )
    2) the guards used rubber bullets
    3) the incident began with the Palestinians setting fire to a wheat field
    4) the film is heavily edited

    but don't let the facts interrupt your pitiful attempt at propaganda
     
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    1) Too bad the article and video both state that Settlers were throwing stones first. And yes there is a very big difference between live potentially fatal rounds and rock throwing.

    2) What guards? These are settlers and they were clearly using live ammunition... a man got shot in the head for f**k sake.

    3) Post some evidence.

    4: refer to point 3 above ^
     
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    Oh yes, the peaceful protesters were throwing rocks because they are not fatal, not because they don't have access to better weaponry.
     
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    The first thing that one has to learn about such incidents that the incidents are never in black and white. Also I always take the bleeding heart liberal western media with a pinch of salt.

    Hamas following cease fire and firing rockets in retaliation only is a big revelation to me!!!!!!
     
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    get over yourself palliwood fan stick to reality
     
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    Pallywood....name sounds cool..lol
     
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    palestinians are the biggest violators when it comes to ceasefire!:rofl:
    there hasn't been a single day gone when the palestinian barbarians haven't attacked an innocent Isrseli citizen!:mad:!actually Israel is doing an exemplary work not only for their country but also to the entire civilised (human) world by keeping these palestinian monsters at bay:thumb:!
    keep it up brothers and hope one day you will get rid of the palestinian problem!
     
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    brother why are you even bothered to listen to this clown!:frusty:
    he is really a no one who just wants to gain some publicity from some pseudo secularist Indians by showing the whole hearted support for the palestinian lost cause:pound:!
    aqctually we have a lot of people like him in India who literally worship the arabs just to grab a few eyeballs.so please don't listen to him as he's not worth it.
    and i think he would also render his support for the kashmiri separitists who don't have any real work to do other than throwing stones and abuses at the Indian security forces and probably to him the Indian security personnel are a bunch of evil persons who shoot the innocent kashmiris just for having some fun!
     
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    HEIL MEIN FÃœHRER :troll:
     
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    Bullshit...how do you know its live fire, for all you know it is rubber bullet. What do you know about the incidence which happened before the firing.
    If you throw rocks and crude missiles at people with guns, you will get fired back. And those Palestinians bigots deserve the same.
     
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    If you support and hide you terrorist, behind civilians enclosure's to take advantage of a military reluctance to engage community living space's, then you are taking a risk. Just because the Indian Army is stupid enough to put its soldiers at harm's way more than they deserve, doesnt mean every military has to be that stupid and cruel. Why dont the communities hand them over terrorists to the authorities, No they wont. So good, all the ----ers can die together.

    Israel likes the statusquo, the Palestinians dont, So who do you think will start the fights?
     
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    Listen to this carefully, it seems you are a canadian, while this is a Indian forum, where we support our allies. Israel is our ally.
    Dont throw rocks and crude missiles at people with guns, you will get ----ing shot.
    Nope they are rubber bullets and duds, prove me wrong. Go get the ballistics report.
     
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    Palestinian film industry :rofl:
     
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    To be fair last time israel broke the ceasefire with hamas...dont know about this time.
     
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    I know what they are doing, it is something the CPM cadre's do here to perfection, Its called Martyr' making. They charge into a volatile situation and make sure they have some guinea pig in the front. And when they do get hurt and they get admitted in the Hospital, and call Police atrocities. The difference here since there is no way unlike in the Indian Scenario, the Israeli's can outnumber the protestors and show strength like Indian Police do, the only option they have is gun's, the Palestinians know, they dont mind their kids or women or some poor sod getting killed, they need it to make a martyr so as to get more money and coverage.

    Which loving human being will ever let a child or young teenager's go near a protest rally like that, where they know violence is certain. So, if the Palestinians dont care, why should the Israeli's
     
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