Israel Rare Admission: Iran has Never Called for Its Destruction

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  1. ejazr

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    A rare admission from Israel | Al Jazeera Blogs

    Was it a momentary lapse of concentration or an honest admission?

    Last week, in an interview with Israel's Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor in Jerusalem, I heard something I have not heard before.

    Let's start with the background.

    With the P5+1 (the US, UK, France, Russia, China and Germany) talks on Iran's nuclear programme about to kick off, and the air thick with talk of a military attack on Iran, it seemed appropriate to try to gain some perspective from the Israeli establishment.

    As Minister of Intelligence and Atomic Energy with a background in Iran issues, Meridor was the perfect man to talk to to.

    An able and experienced politician, Meridor was mostly happy to skirt the direct questions and recite approved talking points.

    It's when I challenged him on the biggest talking point of all, Iran's supposed determination to "wipe Israel off the face of the map," that Meridor seemed to stumble outside the lines of the agreed narrative.

    The minister spent much of the ensuing conversation arguing that for Iran to simply question Israel's long term future amounts to an existential threat; there are many who agree with him.

    But it's his acknowledgement that there's nuance in Iran's position that's so significant, and so rare.

    Politicans from Binyamin Netanyahu through Britain's William Hague and most of the US congress won't do it; they have invested a great deal of political capital in arguing just the opposite, claiming incessantly that Iran will launch a nuclear weapon on Israel because, in their minds, Iran's president has more or less said so.

    As Gary Leupp, Professor of History at Tufts University in the US points out, this position has remained unmoved by contradictory facts:

    But there's little doubt which opinion is most heard, and most listened to.

    The Guardian of April 13, 2012, contained a remarkable example of this.

    This article, questioning the legality of an attack on Iran, is unusual anyway, simply because it addresses the issue of international law at all.

    But more surprising are the statements in it, made by some fairly learned lawyers, which are not so much legal analysis as verbal callisthenics.

    That Alan Dershowitz gives Israel the legal green light to bomb Iran is to be expected, but here's Anthony D'Amato, a professor of international law at Northwestern University:

    The combination of factual error and partisan analysis here is remarkable.

    Firstly, his characterisation of Tehran's policies is almost unique.

    If "Iran" (and he doesn't actually clarify who he means here) has ever actually said that it wants to "push Israelis into the sea" he doesn't point us to the source.

    Secondly, he doesn't explain why such comments from Iran should cause more existential anguish than similarly belligerent comments made by Israel's Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman in reference to Palestinians, or by Hillary Clinton in reference to Iran.

    As for the concept of "preserving international law for future generations," he does not clarify his thoughts on whether Russia and China might also be justified in unilaterally attempting such a feat, or in deciding what can and cannot be allowed in international politics.

    But what's most bizarre is his completely erroneous belief that Iran itself has said it's constructing nuclear weapons.

    It hasn't

    There's no reason to believe that a man of D'Amato's standing should lie, bare-faced, to an internationally respected newspaper; therefore it's more likely that he's simply accepted what someone with an anti-Iran agenda has told him.

    So if a man who "has argued cases before the European Court of Human Rights" can fall prey to hearsay and mis-information, can we be surprised that the average consumer of mainstream media can buy into this "big lie"?

    Let's hope, as the latest round of nuclear talks gets under way, the people around the table will, like Meridor, admit the existence of nuance and allow for alternate opinions.

    Because if Harvard's Stephen Walt is right, and the P5+1 is intent on sabotaging the negotiations before they start ... well ...

    Let's just hope.


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    Watch full interview on Al Jazeera with Dan Meridor - Israels' deputy PM here
    Dan Meridor: We misquoted Ahmadinejad - Talk to Al Jazeera - Al Jazeera English
     
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    what would happen if isreal is wiped out ??
     
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    The point is no one talked about that. Israel's deputy PM admitted that Ahmedijinad was misquoted.
     
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    As reported by Al-Jazeera.

    Iran is a threat to Israel. Palestinians deny the right of Israel to exist. You are a fool or a pawn, not to mention a quibbler.
     
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    As I mentioned, it was Israel's deputy PM Dan Meridor who said that Ahmedijinad was misquoted, why drag me into it?

    And the Palestinian authority - the official Palestinian institution and its President Abbas does recognise Israel. Atleast eince the 1992-93 peace accords. That is what the 1993 Accords were all about. Palestinians recognise Israel, and Israel will work towards a viable two state solution.
    'We recognize Israel, they should recognize Palestine JPost - Diplomacy & Politics
     
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    Fatah had removed a clause in their constitution calling for Israel's destruction long back(90's I guess).But I believe it is still there in Hamas's constitution.
     
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    Yes Hamas which controls Gaza and is not recognised officially still hasn't openly accepted Israel. But anyways, that is beside the main topic here which is the deputy PM of Israel admitting that Ahmedjinad has been misquoted.

    Its not Al Jazeera making it up but an interview given by him to Al Jazeera, video link in the first post.
     
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    All the Iranians with whom I have spoken have said that Iran (or more precisely Ahmadinejad) has never called for destruction of Israel. That 'spin' was a deliberate mistranslation of Farsi by the Western media.
     
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    It's really a simple issue. Muslims worldwide would be dancing in the streets worldwide if Tel Aviv were nuked tomorrow. Further discussion always gets reduced to quibbling. Iran is a threat to Israel.
    Ask Germans who lived before 1945; they will tell you Hitler never said "gas and burn the Jews." He said there should be a Final Solution.
     
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