Israel protests comparison of RSS with Nazis

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  1. S.A.T.A

    S.A.T.A Senior Member Senior Member

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    Israel protests comparison of RSS with Nazis

    NEW DELHI: Israel has taken grave exception to Congress leader Digvijay Singh's comparison of RSS with the Nazis.

    Responding to questions, an Israel embassy spokesperson said, "Without entering the political debate, no comparison can be made with the Nazi Holocaust in which six million Jews were massacred solely because they were Jewish."

    Singh courted controversy on Sunday by training guns on the RSS yet again. Addressing the Congress plenary, Singh said RSS was targeting Muslims and brainwashing young minds to hate Muslims.

    "The RSS, in the garb of its nationalist ideology, is targetting Muslims the same way Nazis targeted Jews in the 1930s," Singh said.

    He said the hatred of Muslims, which he alleged was the RSS agenda, was the greatest threat to India. He was echoing Rahul Gandhi's comments to the US ambassador which was made available by Wikileaks, and which prompted the BJP to take potshots at the Congress scion.

    In his remarks, Singh said, "Why is it that all Hindus found involved in terror activities are members of RSS."

    Israel is very sensitive to acts of persecution in other parts of the world being compared to the Holocaust, which it believes occupies a special place of global horror because of the scale and deliberateness of the massacre of Jews by Hitler and the Nazis. Nothing else, it believes, is comparable.
     
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    warriorextreme Senior Member Senior Member

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    its true...only congress can compare such things with each other..while appeasing one minority they are hurting other minority...looks like congress has a loophole in their strategy.
     
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    maomao Veteran Hunter of Maleecha Senior Member

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    LOL Kahn Kahan se Maar Padrahi hey Congress ko still foolish Congressi sycophants are busy massaging raul babas' ego....I think they all know they are not coming back after next elections, so this is the only time they will get to loot the country and it does not matter if raul looks like a fool in public.....after Digvijay's claim of wikileaks being RSS ploy, he may climb down to - wikileaks being Zionist ploy to defame "spotless" Congress!!;;D

    P.S: Do you find connection in conspiracy theories being spewed by Congress's Digi Raja and raul baba alike which are quite similar to the theories of our esteemed neighbors in the west??;;D
     
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    Congress has grown itself into the most pathetic party to play religion politics.
     
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    S.A.T.A Senior Member Senior Member

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    Such ludicrous comparisons come naturally to AICC general secretaries,former,present or future,because congress always has believed that there is only one communalism,i e majority communalim,everybody else are its victims.
     
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    can some one give me or let me know how to meet Chota rajan ? I want to give him supari for Digvijay singh wahaha :lol:
     
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    This idoirtic digvijay singh is unecessarylly provoking a communal violence for the political profotability by makin the Hindus and Muslims fight and they in turn blame the RSS and other Right groups.............

    He must be a fool to make these comments. What should everybody say about the 1984 Sikh riots and killings.........

    Think we should say Ms.Indra Gandhi as the female Hitler of the world...........:emot15:
     
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    I don't think the Israelis are interested in the RSS. Their sole worry is to prevent the "Brand" of the Holocaust from being diluted by constant references towards "lesser" crimes and less abhorrent entities. : )

    There are serious issues with RSS ideology though. Although they are effective in motivating young people, I think that some of the ideas which they imprint in people's minds are definitely harmful. This sense of siege and persecution-mentality is not healthy. It reminds me of Zaid Hamid (as a mirror image).

    A lot of us admire Israel also, and perhaps in some ways, rightly, but we are not Israel, and Hindus are not Jews. Our attitude should reflect a more open, all-embracing mindset rather than one of a hounded, persecuted people.
     
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    congress acheivements are growing day by day driving the pro congress members out of such threads lol
    really sad that we belong to a country ruled by fools and morons(for people congress sounds like nazi)
     
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    This is nothing but sheer frustration and a desperate step to retain power . Election in Bihar proved that Muslims Voters cannot be fooled so easily and they are willing to vote for development Even if its NDA. Earlier Muslims were with either Congress or any Non NDA party but looks like there is a change in mindset. This has created ripples across the party and they are trying their level best to retain their votebank.Its not the voice of Digvijay , Rahul or Antulay its voice of congress and they are desperate.
     
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    S.A.T.A Senior Member Senior Member

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    RSS represents a part of a larger movement among the Hindus of this country(but not just restricted to Hindus) who wish to reclaim the Civilizational values of Hinduism and restore it at the very core of India's nation building process.There is nothing devious or recalcitrant about this thought process,i dare say its only natural and we must be committed to it.
     
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    Whenever I read something that is vetted by the RSS, and listen to its leaders speak, I can only sense paranoia and a tendency to garnish the facts to suit their agenda. Do we really need them? What has India gained from them?
     
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    I am a member of RSS in Ooty and Coonoor of Nilgiris district in Tamil Nadu. I was brought up there. I was a member until we came to Andhra. I was a member for five years and we have both muslims and christians in RSS as members. One should do a deep analysis before making a comment about others. Think Mr. Digvijay singh is trying to get a good name from Ms.Sonia gandhi. RSS is working for unity among all communities. But these so called secular parties who tell they are secular, but in the background provoke communal riots are very dangerous and now we are being ruled by these communal secularisits...............

    :angry_1::angry_1::angry_10::special30::special29::special25::special20:
     
  15. S.A.T.A

    S.A.T.A Senior Member Senior Member

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    Nearly 45 years of unchallenged Nehruvian westernism and the Indian intellectual discourse shaped by the horrors of world war 2(and the ideologies that seeded those events) had helped evolve a particular indian despise for the notion of Hindu-Indian nationhood,propaganda mounted by then indian government's surrounding Mahatma Gandhi's assassination at the hands of Hindu right wing extremist helped further strengthen the prejudice.RSS and several other Hindu organization and intelligentsia committed to restoring the Hindu nationhood have persevered against this entrenched prejudice.The paranoia that one senses from certain statements made by RSS leaders is actually deep frustrations that Hindutva intelligentsia have experienced in this quest,mostly because of the concerted efforts of those in power like the congress party.

    RSS has had deep differences with the congress,esp as Gandhi's influence waned and westernist like Nehru gained ascendancy,while Hindu nationalist within the congress like Sardar became sidelined.RSS and other Hindu organization did not believe Congress represented the entire nation and the the partition of India was forced upon us by Islamic radicals like Jinnah and westernist like Nehru.Having brought about a horrific communal partition,Hindu organizations like RSS were dismayed to see Nehru's congress had decided to retain Hinduism as a mere cultural expression which would otherwise have no role in the nation building process,infact post independence Indian would be exact carbon copy of the British raj,this after the sacrifices made during the Independence and the partition of the motherland.

    While Sardar was sympathetic to the Hindutva cause,Nehru had by then developed deep phobia for it,immediately after the Independence Sardar Patel indicated the RSS should dissolve and be merge into the Indian national congress,Nehru rejected any such suggestion.The division between the RSS-Hindu nationalist within the INC represented by Patel and secular-westernist led by Nehru was very visibleand very fractious,Mahatma Gandhi's assassination and the resulting emotional outpouring,proved to be the ultimate blow to the Hindu nationalist cause.Nehru led a virtual witch hunt against all Hindu organization,esp the RSS,even though RSS,none its leaders or any of its members were involved in the heinous act.It took all the persuasive powers of Sardar Patel and B.R Ambedkar to call off Nehru's witch hunt against RSS,but the damage was already done.

    The legacy of Nehru's aversion to Hindu nationalism,esp the RSS,continued to be followed in toto by the succeeding congress leadership and was further trumpeted through official mechanism,state institutions,through public mass communication to school texts books,colleges, universities et al.

    Is it any wonder then that the RSS and other Hindu organizations feel a little frustrated and give vent to those feelings.But no things have changed there is a new confidence in the Hindutva front, that there light at the end of the tunnel and the cobwebs prejudice woven by decades of official propaganda machinery against Hindutva and their real objectives, have finally been cast off and today there is large part of the Indian nation which is receptive to the cause of Hindu nationhood.
     
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    This is incongruous with the concept of a secular nation. Clearly, modern India is still a work in progress and has a wide assortment of problems. However pluralism has shown itself to be her greatest asset and it hardly makes sense to negate its advantages. Adopting Hinduism as the foundation of India's building process will result in alienation of considerable segments of society, not just Muslims, Sikhs or Christians, but also a large number of agnostics, atheists, secular humanists etc. This would be counterproductive for the development of the nation.

    While the concept of reintroducing organized Hinduism into the social sphere is a good one the RSS has done very little with it. And while I'm sure there are many progressive Hindu leaders out there the general effects of RSS's paranoia and chauvinism has been regressive.

    India already has a political party that impedes its development, there's no sense in adding another.
     
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    Reducing Hinduism to merely a religious expression and thus negating its civilizational legacy and import to which Indian nationhood is indelibly tethered to,has been the bane of Indian post Independence nation building process.Hinduism and Hindu civilization alone is the basis for this nation called India,otherwise we wouldn't exist.To think otherwise is to live in denial.Pluralism in the society will be tolerated as it has always been,but that should not bind us into a false premise for our nationhood,which is its Hindu heritage.I cant imagine why Muslims Christians Sikhs or any assortment of people would object to this natural evolution of nation.

    India cannot be anymore kept away from its Hindu consciousness.which is the only path to glory and place of honor.What we really dont need are the quasi Raj intellects deciding the fate of this country.
     
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    Israel should shut up!! what right does it have to interfere in out internal matter.
     
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    Come again?

    Digvijay Singh pulled the trigger first
     
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    While the hindus may not be hounded and persecuted people to the extent that jews were, nevertheless, Hinduism and consequently the hindus have been delibrately kept week and meek by the political ideologies and political parties. So, its natural for some sections within that community to have a sense of seige... That does not make them terrorists.

    A bomb exploded in the holy city Kashi killing those who were involved in the religious ceremony. The Govt and the media has moved on. What was the Hindu reaction? Next to nothing.
    Imagine a similar event in the holy cities of any other religion...a bomb at congregation addressed by pope or perhaps a bomb in mecca...etc etc. What would the reaction of the followers? When we contrast with that, hindus are a docile lot. To brand them as terrorists, is a delibrate political mischief. Did anyone object to these political gimmicks by congress? Did media question them? Did the 'secular' personalities question them? Did other 'secular' parties question them? No. Its only the right-wing parties that are objecting to this.

    So, if someone feels that RSS ideology or for that matter rightist ideology is potentially dangerous, they need to understand that this ideology is reactionary to the 'secular' ideology. Secularism in our country is defined as anti-hinduism. Bashing hindus, hinduism, its god and goddesses is taken as a sign of securalism. Certain personlaties take pride in equating hindus with terrorists. Yet, no secular party or personality objects to it. Those who take offence are branded radical. Then, its natural that the thinking would take a more assertive turn owing the 'secularism' that seeks to suppress and perhaps even eradicate hinduism.
     
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    Basically HINDUS are very restraint to anything and others were and are taking advantage of this attitude of the HINDUS.................

    The HINDUS are suffering torchure in the hands of foreign rulers for the past 1000 years...............

    This is true fact that everyone should accept..............

    But now some hindus are reacting radically
     

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