Islamic State comes to India: Planned to strike Delhi-NCR malls, Kumbh

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  1. Alien

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    DELHI: Delhi Police on Wednesday announced the arrest of four members of Islamic State (ISIS) aged 19-23, who were in touch with handlers in Syria and Iraq and were planning a terrorist attack ahead of Republic Day at targets such as the Ardh Kumbh in Haridwar and prominent shopping malls of Delhi-NCR like Select Citywalk, Saket; DLF Promenade, Vasant Kunj and the Great India Place in Noida.

    The arrests confirmed the presence of ISIS in India for the first time, transforming what was till now a concern into an actual security threat. The ISIS cell members, according to the police, said they were close to preparing IEDs and procuring weapons on the instruction of handlers who they were in touch with over VOIP, WhatsApp and Facebook.

    The official word came a day after TOI reported the arrest of three operatives of the terror outfit, which recently staged an attack in Jakarta. The special cell of the Delhi Police announced the arrest of a fourth operative, who was picked up at 1am on Wednesday, and said there was evidence connecting them with ISIS operatives in West Asia.

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    Among the four arrested, Akhlaq ur Rehman is a third-year engineering student at a polytechnic college in Roorkee area and was picked up by cops just as he was to enter his college to write an exam. Mohammed Osama and Ajiz are doing BA from a local college while Mehraj is pursuing a bachelors in Ayurvedic medicine.

    Suspects had scouted terror targets

    Apart from targeting the Ardh Kumbh in Haridwar on February 8, the ISIS recruits were keen on bombing popular malls that attract thousands of visitors every day. They had even conducted a survey of their intended targets.

    The quartet came in touch with ISIS recruiters through Facebook and were subsequently communicating through WhatsApp and Hike, sources said. They were then asked to read up ISIS literature on the internet and the outfit's mouthpieces like Dabiq.


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    One Yusuf (perhaps a code name) and terror outfit Ansar-ut Tawhid's 'Amir' Shafi Armar, were the persons allegedly handling them and priming them for attacks. The operatives are in 15-day police custody and are being interrogated jointly by the IB and special cell. They will be taken to Chhattisgarh, MP and areas in UP where they were supposed to meet some associates and collect articles needed for IED preparation.


    In the initial interrogation, they have confessed to have been focusing more on the Ardh Kumbh as a blast there would have led to a stampede, causing maximum casualties. They say they were in the end stage of procuring weapons and preparing IEDs and were planning to strike before R-Day, if possible, police sources said.

    A special team led by ACP Alok Kumar and DCP Pramod Kushwah is working with agencies in cracking the entire conspiracy.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...elhi-NCR-malls-Kumbh/articleshow/50661789.cms
     
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  3. sorcerer

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    PredictablyMalicious Punjabi Senior Member

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    I was just about to post this thread
     
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    I don't think they would like the repercussions of such an attack.
     
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    @dhananjay1 yes, they will have to sip lot of tea during 'talks' with various ministers.

    Cause big stomach problems,
     
  7. Nuvneet Kundu

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    There's no Islamic State. These should be addressed with their proprietary name "Muslim commandos of the American empire"

    Whenever any country disagrees with the US, they get these muslim commandos to strike them. France was a similar victim of American aggression for resisting US agenda against Russia. France was trying to lift sanctions against Russia and sell Mistral amphibious ships, hence the Paris attack by USA to build public pressure on France to join the American coalition against ISIS, not Russian.

    US was telling France not to sell Rafales to India because US wanted to sell F16, and France has defied US pressure and sold Rafales, now US wants to inflict pain on France and India by terror strikes. Yesterday I read news that French intel thinks that there will be lone wolf attacks in India during Hollande's visit. If that happens, it will be the same 'muslim commandos of American empire', whether they call themselves ISIS, Taliban, Al Qaeda is irrelevant. The source of funding, training, and instruction all comes from America.

    USA has found this convenient weapon to bring nations to their knees. On one end they get to maintain complete deniability as some muslim group gets the blame, on the other hand, they get to destabilize a government by building public pressure. Plus, if an attack is successfully branded as an ISIS attack, as opposed to an LeT attack (paid Indian media will do this differentiation), then pressure starts building on Indian government to join American coalition against ISIS, which India has been resisting, for good reason.

    So everyone saying 'we will fuck ISIS if they attack us' are fools who are falling in the emotional trap laid by the US. They know how Indians think so they want to stage a false flag attack in India to manipulate our emotions to gain support for an Indian involvement in American wars.
     
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    After a point, things no longer remain in the hands of ministers. That's why I recommended a punitive strike against Pakis to vent out India anger, but government seems to busy axing it's own leg.
     
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    No one here wants to go and fight American wars. We can't even fight our own wars!!

    But you are too paranoid about US capabilities and giving free pass to jihadists, who do a lot of things out of their own violation.
     
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    We should increase our capacity to monitor social media , as it is the primary platform for propoganda. Also , force various social media platform like whatsapp to store data on local Indian servers only.

    This menance can not only be countered effectively but also would be helpfull in formation of efficient counter terrorist unit at central level.
     
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    @Navneet Kundu also, it allows way for Pakistan to avoid responsibility for attacks. Looks like full jihad coming to India & secularism will be destroyed.

    Please do remember, spaces between words is not how our language was traditionally written. It started by british, the traditional way is also immune to Google translate usage by melechas. & may be for a long time yet,

    @Abhijat think government has its hands full, doesn't want to take on global it league. Headlines : facial right wing pm cracks down on sm, due to public dissent. The new Indian firewall etc
     
  12. Nuvneet Kundu

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    Nah, my paranoia stems from a few other things. Remember a few months back all Indian news were plastered with news that said Americans have found a piece of paper in ISIS territory that had mention of ISIS plans to attack India? then the US said their intel agencies verified and then said 'yup, that was an authentic paper'. That was propaganda to prepare our mind for a strike and a veiled threat to our government. The US was also purportedly asking for some sort of military base near the India-China border, we denied that. They were asking for LSA, we denied that, they pressed to sell F16, we denied that, they pressed us to buy Javelin, we denied that, pressed us to buy Raven drone, we denied that. So yeah, I am not paranoid. The US will use Pakistan to strike us and claim ISIS did it to keep both Pakistan and US safe. We must have deterrence and retribution plan for both.

    Btw, it doesn't take a genius to do a strike. Any US embassy official can identify some homegrown anti-social elements, give them some funds via hawala and get them to do something bad. It doesn't have to be a navy SEAL. There are many people like Ishrat Jahan roaming around in the country, after all we have 170 million people belonging to the 'religion of peace', living inside our borders willing to spread peace at the drop of a hat. Who needs external enemies when you have...well, you get the point.

    I'm not giving free pass to jihadis. If you tell me that we are going to attack Pakistan in response to any terror attack, regardless of who was behind it, then I would wholeheartedly support you. But absolutely NO going to clean America's mess in the middle east.
     
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    No one is asking them whether they take responsibility or not. We are already at war with them and my blood will only stop boiling after Pakistan is broken. We don't need a terror strike to motivate us to fuck Pakistan. It should be our default agenda anyway.
     
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    And secularists, jihadi, leftists, intellectuals, jholachap NGOs etc said Batla House Encounter was FAKE and MC Sharma was shot by his own men.....how low can these marxist / secularist can go is beyond imagination, I can imagine islamic people denying this (as they are born to deny their crimes), however leftists / secularists saying all this because the suspects were students of Jamia Millia Islamia University simply reeks Dimmitude and being anti-National & shows anti-Hindu mindset of these intellectuals / writers for hire!!
     
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    The litmus test for an American false flag attack in India is simple. The Negro will take to the white house press podium immediately after a terror strike to blame ISIS and 'express solidarity' before any Indian official has done a press conference. This urgency is to prevent India from blaming Pakistan. Once the US says 'CIA has proof that it's ISIS' then they have essentially blocked India from blaming the LeT.
     
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    @Nuvneet Kundu what we think, doesn't matter though. International politics & rajniti has a certain frame / rules.

    Within the current political 'zeitgeist' or ideology the publicly acceptable thoughts or 'Overton window' do not allow pure truth.

    Why are we at war with Pakistan? Because they're muslims.

    This shouldn't need any justification or 'cassus belli' however, as long as USA, Russia or partly China are in power these euro values will continue to hold sway, in that descending order.

    Therefore, without significant power shifts you have to play these bs games. Yes tomorrow if we have functional Nirbhay Cm (among other things) & an economy immune to sanctions, whether due to west weakness or our strength ; then we can do we we want.

    Until then, as saying goes: "Rules are for suckers"
     
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    That's true. After all, the pres of France didn't come out and point fingers at America. He was expected to point at ISIS and so he did. To add flavor to the drama, their news broadcasted some footage of airstrikes to satisfy the public's bloodlust. The political zeitgeist constrains politicians. We can't do anything, like you rightly said, but then we are just random people chatting on an internet forum in pursuit of information. No harm in considering a hypothetical scenario just for the sake of argument.
     
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    The ISIS threat coupled with ISI threat ( Call it a bad joke on US in naming ISIS) is a reality when viewed from the US point of view..

    ISIS and ISI both are threat to the world.

    India is doing oil business with few nations in local currency moving away from Petro Dollars and this alone is a single valid threat to US.
    USA will do all and every propaganda to hold the Indian establishment under RISK. The wave of domestic political unrest is the result of US propaganda in motion. They will pump in enough money to destabilization any domestic skirmish and blow it out of proportion with presstitutes and bitches and snitches in opposition to gain some kind of MASS PUBLIC MOVEMENT against the establishment.

    No domestic issue will be left alone..but fanned to create some kind of major political unrest. US has used this formula to create political vacuum in most middle eastern cuntries which is now gone to the dogs.
     
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