ISI ordered killing of Pak journalist: US officials

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    US officials say they have intelligence that Pakistan's powerful spy agency ISI ordered the killing of a Pakistani journalist who had written scathing reports about Islamist militants having infiltrated into the country's military.

    New classified intelligence obtained before the May 29 disappearance of the journalist, Saleem Shahzad, 40, from the capital, Islamabad, and after the discovery of his mortally wounded body, showed that senior officials of the spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, directed the attack on him in an effort to silence criticism, 'New York Times' reported quoting two senior Obama Administration officials.

    The intelligence, administration officials said they believed was reliable and conclusive, showed that the actions of the ISI, as it is known, were "barbaric and unacceptable".

    But the disclosure of the information could further aggravate the badly fractured relationship between the US and Pakistan, which worsened significantly with the American commando raid two months ago that killed Osama bin Laden in a Pakistan safehouse.

    The newspaper said Obama administration officials will deliberate in the coming days how to present the information about Shahzad to the Pakistani government, an official said.

    The disclosure of the intelligence was made in answer to questions about the possibility of its existence, and was reluctantly confirmed by the two officials.

    "There is a lot of high-level concern about the murder; no one is too busy not to look at this," said one.

    A third senior American official said there was enough other intelligence and indicators immediately after Shahzad’s death for the Americans to conclude that the ISI had ordered him killed.

    "Every indication is that this was a deliberate, targeted killing that was most likely meant to send shock waves through Pakistan's journalist community and civil society," said the official.

    A spokesman for the Pakistan intelligence agency said in Islamabad yesterday that, "I am not commenting on this."

    George Little, a spokesman for the Central Intelligence Agency, declined to comment.

    In a statement the day after Shahzad’s waterlogged body was retrieved from a canal 60 miles from Islamabad, the ISI publicly denied accusations in the Pakistani news media that it had been responsible, calling them "totally unfounded."

    The ISI said the journalist's death was "unfortunate and tragic," and should not be "used to target and malign the country’s security agency."

    The killing of Shahzad, a contributor to the Web site Asia Times Online, aroused an immediate furor in the freewheeling news media in Pakistan.

    Shahzad was the 37th journalist killed in Pakistan since the 9/11 attacks, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists.

    Pakistan's civilian government, under pressure from the media, established a commission headed by a Supreme Court justice to investigate his death. The findings are scheduled to be released early next month.

    The journalist suffered 17 lacerated wounds delivered by a blunt instrument, a ruptured liver and two broken ribs, said Dr Mohammed Farrukh Kamal, one of the three physicians who conducted the post-mortem.

    The anger over Shahzad’s death followed unprecedented questioning in the media about the professionalism of the army and the ISI, a military-controlled spy agency, in the aftermath of the Bin Laden raid.

    Since that initial volley of questioning, the ISI has mounted a steady counter-campaign. Senior ISI officials have called and visited journalists, warning them to douse their criticisms and rally around the theme of a united country, according to three journalists who declined to be named for fear of reprisals.

    Shahzad, who wrote articles over the last several years that illuminated the relationship between the militants and the military, was abducted from the capital three days after publication of his article that said Al Qaeda was responsible for an audacious 16-hour commando attack on Pakistan’s main naval base in Karachi on May 22.

    The attack was a reprisal for the navy's arresting up to 10 naval personnel who had belonged to a Qaeda cell, Shahzad said.

    The article, published by Asia Times Online, detailed how the attackers were guided by maps and logistical information provided from personnel inside the base.

    Particularly embarrassing for the military, Shahzad described negotiations before the raid between the navy and a Qaeda representative, Abdul Samad Mansoor.

    The navy refused to release the detainees, Shahzad wrote. The Pakistani military maintains that it does not negotiate with militants.

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    so is he [​IMG] going for [​IMG]???
     
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    Its not what we are speculating its a media report form the US and they are claiming so , so they are liable for any proof of their claim
     
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    So we shouldnt believe something tht is not proved right?
     
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    Yes we should not believing is based on 3 points :-
    1. proof on ground ( this case debatable )
    2. Statistical data
    3. PAST experience

    And the last two points in which pakistan fail miserably and have a very poor credibility none more proven than the osama case when after years of denial by pak authorities the truth was something which we believed for long and was proven so in due time.
     
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    Dude i dont think tht the army knew abt osama.. otherwise we didnt have any benefit frm hiding a criminal who had openly waged a war on Pakistan and urged his men to attack n harm Pakistan in any way possible coz Pakistan was with the "infidel" america.................
    Abt this journo... well why would ISI kill him? what abt taliban? etc......... ISI wouldnt get any benefit from killing a well known journo..would it? No..
     
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    Nobody knew he was hiding in a military base?? what a joke.
     
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    Actually he wasnt living in a military base... bad joke.
     
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    Whether the army knew or dint know its a long debate we already had , the point i wa strying to make was that the worlds most wanted terrorist was hiding under pak soil .

    Secondly pak over the years kept on saying that OSAMA WAS NOT IN PAKISTAN infact they could have said we dont know about osama he might be anywhere including pakistan .but they didnt say this they always tried to impress upon the world that he was not in pakistan.


    The whole point what i was trying to make was to your previous question where u asked about proof , the point is that we tend to rely and believe those sources who have more credibility than those who have less , at this point of time the credibility of news coming out of pakistani establishment is debatable and hardly worth believing seeing their overall records but sources coming form other places have better reasons for many to believe that it is true.

    The entire point was about credibility and not about osama hiding which was just a point of reference to show the nature of credibility
     
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    So the pioneer is credible? cool.
     
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    As i told you before credibility/ proof / reality all such facts are not a one off matter and not judged in a single day , nothing in this whole world is ideal , we tend to take the side of those who has proven his worth over a period of time in various circumstances , having said that does not mean this they are not bound for error or mistakes
     
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    LOL! Spot on!
     
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    Yes, more credible than you can ever imagine, Pioneer is one newspaper which focuses of real issues not delusions and dementia!
     
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    Pakistan Sanctioned Death Of Pakistan Journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad, Mike Mullen Cla

    Pakistan Sanctioned Death Of Pakistan Journalist Syed Saleem Shahzad, Mike Mullen Claims

    WASHINGTON -- The top U.S. military officer says the Pakistani government "sanctioned" the killing of a journalist last month, but said he could not tie the death to the country's powerful intelligence service.

    Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, says the beating death of Pakistani reporter, Saleem Shahzad, and the reported abuse of other journalists is no way for a government to move ahead. He says it is a way to spiral in the wrong direction.

    Shahzad's death was widely blamed on Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency, but the ISI has denied involvement. His death was followed a few weeks later by the beating of another Pakistani journalist by men wearing police uniforms.

    Mullen is the first top U.S. leader to publicly link the killing to Pakistan's government.
     
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    Pakistan in a desperate race to beat North Korea's standing/ rank of being the most dysfunctional country.
     
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    Well its not Pioneer that is making the allegation. It is reporting what the New York Times' reported quoting two senior Obama Administration officials is reporting. It is their credibility in question. But in any case, it shows what the Obama administration is thinking.

    Here is the original piece

    Pakistan’s Spies Tied to Slaying of a Journalist - The New York Times

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Obama administration officials believe that Pakistan’s powerful spy agency ordered the killing of a Pakistani journalist who had written scathing reports about the infiltration of militants in the country’s military, according to American officials.

    New classified intelligence obtained before the May 29 disappearance of the journalist, Saleem Shahzad, 40, from the capital, Islamabad, and after the discovery of his mortally wounded body, showed that senior officials of the spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, directed the attack on him in an effort to silence criticism, two senior administration officials said.

    The intelligence, which several administration officials said they believed was reliable and conclusive, showed that the actions of the ISI, as it is known, were “barbaric and unacceptable,” one of the officials said. They would not disclose further details about the intelligence.

    But the disclosure of the information in itself could further aggravate the badly fractured relationship between the United States and Pakistan, which worsened significantly with the American commando raid two months ago that killed Osama bin Laden in a Pakistan safehouse and deeply embarrassed the Pakistani government, military and intelligence hierarchy. Obama administration officials will deliberate in the coming days how to present the information about Mr. Shahzad to the Pakistani government, an administration official said.

    The disclosure of the intelligence was made in answer to questions about the possibility of its existence, and was reluctantly confirmed by the two officials. “There is a lot of high-level concern about the murder; no one is too busy not to look at this,” said one.

    A third senior American official said there was enough other intelligence and indicators immediately after Mr. Shahzad’s death for the Americans to conclude that the ISI had ordered him killed.

    “Every indication is that this was a deliberate, targeted killing that was most likely meant to send shock waves through Pakistan’s journalist community and civil society,” said the official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicate nature of the information.

    A spokesman for the Pakistan intelligence agency said in Islamabad on Monday night that “I am not commenting on this.” George Little, a spokesman for the Central Intelligence Agency, declined to comment.

    In a statement the day after Mr. Shahzad’s waterlogged body was retrieved from a canal 60 miles from Islamabad, the ISI publicly denied accusations in the Pakistani news media that it had been responsible, calling them “totally unfounded.”

    The ISI said the journalist’s death was “unfortunate and tragic,” and should not be “used to target and malign the country’s security agency.”

    The killing of Mr. Shahzad, a contributor to the Web site Asia Times Online, aroused an immediate furor in the freewheeling news media in Pakistan.

    Mr. Shahzad was the 37th journalist killed in Pakistan since the 9/11 attacks, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists.

    Pakistan’s civilian government, under pressure from the media, established a commission headed by a Supreme Court justice to investigate Mr. Shahzad’s death. The findings are scheduled to be released early next month.

    Mr. Shahzad suffered 17 lacerated wounds delivered by a blunt instrument, a ruptured liver and two broken ribs, said Dr. Mohammed Farrukh Kamal, one of the three physicians who conducted the post-mortem.

    The anger over Mr. Shahzad’s death followed unprecedented questioning in the media about the professionalism of the army and the ISI, a military-controlled spy agency, in the aftermath of the Bin Laden raid.

    Since that initial volley of questioning, the ISI has mounted a steady counter-campaign. Senior ISI officials have called and visited journalists, warning them to douse their criticisms and rally around the theme of a united country, according to three journalists who declined to be named for fear of reprisals.

    Mr. Shahzad, who wrote articles over the last several years that illuminated the relationship between the militants and the military, was abducted from the capital three days after publication of his article that said Al Qaeda was responsible for an audacious 16-hour commando attack on Pakistan’s main naval base in Karachi on May 22.

    The attack was a reprisal for the navy’s arresting up to 10 naval personnel who had belonged to a Qaeda cell, Mr. Shahzad said.

    The article, published by Asia Times Online, detailed how the attackers were guided by maps and logistical information provided from personnel inside the base.

    Particularly embarrassing for the military, Mr. Shahzad described negotiations before the raid between the navy and a Qaeda representative, Abdul Samad Mansoor. The navy refused to release the detainees, Mr. Shahzad wrote. The Pakistani military maintains that it does not negotiate with militants.

    Mr. Shahzad prided himself on staying out of the mainstream press, preferring, he wrote in a preface to his recently published book, “Inside Al Qaeda and the Taliban,” to challenge the “conventional wisdom.”

    He had submitted articles to Asia Times Online, which claims 150,000 readers, since 2001, when he was a reporter in Karachi uncovering corruption in the public utility, the editor of the Web site, Tony Allison, said.

    He broke into the limelight two years ago with an interview with Ilyas Kashmiri, a highly trained Pakistani militant allied to Al Qaeda. Mr. Kashmiri is believed to have been killed in a drone attack in early June.

    According to associates, Mr. Shahzad cultivated contacts inside the military and the intelligence agency and members of militant groups, some from his student days in Jamaat Islami, a religious political party.

    Some of his stories were threaded with embellishments. Soon after the Bin Laden raid, Mr. Shahzad wrote that Gen. David H. Petraeus visited the chief of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and informed him, an account the White House strongly disputes. Pakistani journalists questioned the authenticity of some of Mr. Shahzad’s reporting: whether those doubts arose from professional jealousy or were well founded was never clear.

    But the ISI had been interested in Mr. Shahzad for some time. In an e-mail written to Ali Dayan Hasan, the head of Human Rights Watch in Pakistan, which Mr. Shahzad instructed Mr. Hasan to release if something happened to him, Mr. Shahzad gave details of an Oct. 17 meeting at ISI headquarters, where two senior officials in the press section wanted to discuss an article he had written about the release of an interrogated Afghan Taliban commander, Abdul Ghani Baradar.

    At the end, Mr. Shahzad said, he had been given what Mr. Hasan said he understood to be a veiled death threat from the head of the press section, Rear Adm. Adnan Nazir. “We have recently arrested a terrorist and recovered a lot of data, diaries and other material during the interrogation,” Mr. Shahzad quoted Admiral Nazir saying. “The terrorist had a list with him. If I find your name in the list, I will certainly let you know.”

    In its statement after the death of Mr. Shahzad, the ISI said the agency notifies “institutions and individuals alike of any threat warning received about them.” There were no “veiled or unveiled threats” in the e-mail, the ISI said.

    Hameed Haroon, the publisher of Dawn, an English-language newspaper and the head of the newspaper publishers’ association in Pakistan, said that the journalist had confided to him that “he had received death threats from various officers of the ISI on at least three occasions in the past five years.”

    It was possible that Mr. Shahzad had become too cavalier, said Ayesha Siddiqa, a Pakistani columnist and author.

    “The rules of the game are not completely well defined,” she said. “Sometimes friendly elements cross an imaginary threshold and it is felt they must be taught a lesson.”

    The efforts by the ISI to constrain the Pakistani news media have, to a degree, worked in recent days. The virulent criticism after Mr. Shahzad’s death has tempered a bit.

    A Pakistani reporter, Waqar Kiani, who works for the British newspaper The Guardian, was beaten in the capital after Mr. Shahzad’s death with wooden batons and a rubber whip, by men who said: “You want to be a hero. We’ll make you a hero,” the newspaper reported. Mr. Kiani had just published an account of his abduction two years earlier at the hands of intelligence agents.

    Jane Perlez reported from Islamabad, Pakistan, and Eric Schmitt from Washington. Mark Mazzetti contributed reporting from Washington.
     
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