Is USA a natural ally of India?

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  1. Bachchu Yadav

    Bachchu Yadav Regular Member

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    Both nation has greater affinity in terms of socio-economic values.
    1. Both are open democracy with independent judiciary.
    2. Both are open liberal economies.
    3. Significant contribution of Indian diaspora in USA corporate and government sector.
    4. Both have concern with Rise of China.

    Does these similarity enough to conclude that they are natural ally? And as corollary, is China an adversary or friend of India?
     
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  3. W.G.Ewald

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    If natural ally means political and strategic gains, let us be natural ally of all who can fill our prescription! ;)
     
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    India should have a independent foreign policy.
    Say that India allies with USA.Then the USA and her other allies except India collapse.We shall be subject to hostilities and attacks by our rivals(China and her bitches like PAK)
    Siding with a country(what India does currently)is good enOugh as we are not seen as a proper ally and wont be subject to hostilities from rivals.
     
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    What is our prescription?
    Is china our adversary ?
     
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    One word: No
     
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    India is a Natural ally of Russia, USA and what not:). Lets make friendship with anyone who does not give us head ache. Also, lets Partner with any nation which gives head aches to Chicoms and Pakis:D
     
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    No, they are not.

    Moreover, alliances and interstate relationships are not set in stone. We may have a rivalry with China today, but in 50 years they could be our main ally. Who can predict the future?
     
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    Godmen can :namaste:
     
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    Natural Allies - No.
    Partner nations, which share some common interests - Yes, very much so.

    In future, India will strive for a larger role where the US will have to be lot more accommodative, will they be? The question remains.

    What is the extent they would like to bargain and to what extent will India be willing to give the space. Lots of ifs and buts remain but short to mid term objectives are well defined on certain issues and are being pursued.
     
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    i don't see any clash of interest between India and USA
     
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    I think a crucial time will be right after US withdrawal from Afghanistan..... Right now they are too dependent on the Pakis they have to placate them at every turn but after the withdrawal I think true intentions will come out
     
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    Iran is the clash of interest between two !
     
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    natural ally :facepalm:

    They are our natural pain in the ass

    If they have not supported puki with trillion of $$$ and other support India would have had less problem, Also USA always acts in her interest they are not like Russia i guess
     
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    wo to drama ha bhai, its called politics, diplomacy, under se dono india and U.S mile hue ha.

    recently india has issue warning to iran embassy. step by step.
     
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    When India will have the navy and will to claim the entire Indian ocean and all links to and from it then USA will become natural enemy.

    They will be on our side till were only interested in our country and not our region and beyond.
     
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    Is IN growing at such a rate for that outcome to be realized in the forseeable future?

    Will IN confront the PLAN before that time?
     
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    That depends what the foreseable future is. 2025 ? 2050 ?

    The chinese wont confront us if they see we are equal in strength or stronger (in our backyard). The chinese by culture respect power and view mercy as being weak hearted while being merciful takes a lot of heart specially when it comes to ones enemy. While in India being merciful is regarded as one having a stronger heart, the chinese think the same to be weakness. So in order to avoid confrontation with the chinese we shouldn't be merciful with them. If there uav crosses the border shoot it down and they get the message and respect you for it also.
     
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    ^^

    Good analysis. Many people have it in their psyche to misinterpret tolerance and forgiveness as a sign of weakness. Just as they say, beware the rage of the patient man.

    However, the Chinese seem to learn, and after the drubbing they got in the Sikkim skirmish, they seemed to have sobered down a bit. Some never learn, like the Pakistanis and they will keep needling till they are totally obliterated.
     
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    Only if you look at the similarities superficially and only on the surface.

    If you study the question in depth, you'll see why they're historical destinies could not be further apart.
     

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