IS PLA the CPC's army, not China's Army?

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  1. Suryakiran

    Suryakiran Regular Member

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    Hello guys, I saw this news about PLA and I' am really surprised. The headline says "No nationalization of military in China: senior PLA officer ". Is this news really true? Is PLA the Communist Party of China's army rather than China's army? How can CPC maintain and fund the party's Army with the funds the acquired from Chinese government's budget and China's people? Why shouldn't the PLA be kept under China's government? Since the CPC runs the government, won't the PLA comes under CPC's power even if PLA comes under government?

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    No nationalization of military in China: senior PLA officer

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    No nationalization of military in China: senior PLA officer

    English.news.cn 2011-06-20 21:03:26 FeedbackPrintRSS

    BEIJING, June 20 (Xinhua) -- The People's Liberation Army (PLA) is resolutely opposed to nationalizing the military, a senior PLA officer has said, urging the PLA to unswervingly uphold the principle of the absolute leadership of the Communist Party of China (CPC) over the military.

    The officer said that "domestic and foreign hostile forces" have a purpose in criticizing the principle with calls for "nationalization of the military" and "non-affiliation between the military and the CPC and depoliticizing the military."

    The criticism is fundamentally an attempt to divorce the PLA from the CPC's leadership so as to overthrow the CPC's ruling position and subvert the system of socialism with Chinese characteristics, said General Li Jinai, a member of the Central Military Commission.

    "We must resolutely reject these false political ideas and unswervingly listen to and follow the Party," said Li, who is also the director of the PLA General Political Department, in an opinion piece on the front page of Monday's PLA Daily.

    He said that the absolute leadership of the CPC over the military is the soul of the army as well as an important political advantage of the party and the state. It's relevant to the enhancement of the CPC's ruling position and improves its governing, as "the military is the cornerstone of the regime, and the ruling party must have a firm grip on the military," Li said.

    Moreover, Li said that the CPC's absolute leadership over the military is important to China's long-term stability and security, as the military shoulders the responsibility to secure peace for the development of the country during an important period of strategic opportunities.

    He noted that China's basic military system, the CPC's absolute leadership over the military, serves the fundamental interest of the overwhelming majority of the people, which distinguishes itself from some Western countries' military that safeguard the interests of the bourgeoisie.

    Li added that China will not copy the military systems of some Western countries, in which political parties exercise indirect control over the armed forces, because these systems are products of the historical and political conditions in these countries.

    In a similar way, China's military system is determined by the country's specific conditions and the CPC's progressiveness, according to Li.

    One major aspect of upholding the Party's absolute leadership over the military is to adhere to a set of basic systems that can guarantee the leadership.

    For example, the supreme authority and command over the PLA must belong to the CPC Central Committee and the Central Military Commission, according to Li.

    "On the fundamental political principle of the upholding the Party's absolute leadership over the military, we must be especially clear in mind, outright in attitude, and resolute in action," he said.

    The CPC established its own military, the PLA's predecessor, in 1928, seven years after its own founding.
     
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  3. Rahul M

    Rahul M Regular Member

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    the military of china is controlled by the central military commission, there are two, the state CMC and the party CMC. the party is the one that has all the power although the 2 CMC's have some common members.
     
  4. Suryakiran

    Suryakiran Regular Member

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    Is this a common structure followed by all Communist nations? Or, only in China?
     
  5. Rahul M

    Rahul M Regular Member

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    the soviets had a similar structure, the politburo controlled the military and called the shots. in every ship/squadron/battalion there was a party appointed ideologue called a commissar, a guy who had minimal military training but was there to 'inspire' the troops and see that no one was acting against the party. in spite of having little to no military skills the commissar had a standing second only to that of the commander and had the power to even get him(the commander) imprisoned on charges of anti-party activity.
     
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    debasree Regular Member

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    pla and cpc is bound each other like all communist country soviets at the time of glasnost,try to separate it from the party brass ultimatelly the communists fall and the process stopped.
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Why does it matter? CPC is China's de facto political party, and PLA is China's de facto military.
     
  8. mattster

    mattster Respected Member Senior Member

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    The PLA belongs to the top leadership of the CPC. No question.

    If the CPC asks the PLA to massacre its protesting peasants or students, the PLA will follow along like any good obedient dog will follow its Master. If you want proof of this - read up on Tiannamen square.
     
  9. tony4562

    tony4562 Tihar Jail Banned

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    CCP Membership is required to become an officer in the PLA, the same goes for the PAP, and many other branches of China's state aparatus. Most of the government officials are CCP members also, although there are couple non-CCP cabinet members. This sounds a lot, but there are 70 million CCP members, therefore ample supply.
     
  10. huaxia rox

    huaxia rox Senior Member Senior Member

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    depends on different situations.in june 4 1989 the PLA was more like CPCs troop. and in 1950s in tibet the PLA fought for the nation and the people.
     
  11. Iamanidiot

    Iamanidiot Elite Member Elite Member

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    The PLA only listens to the CMC not even to the CCP politbureau IMO.In China a car with a white number plate will get you anywhere

    THe PAP is doing the balancing act to the PLA nowadays
     
  12. Rahul M

    Rahul M Regular Member

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    PLA in tibet was led by a certain deng xiaoping, are sure it was fighting for china ? communist parties are by nature expansionist. china has never been attacked by anyone since 1949 and yet she has fought with every country around her.
     
  13. Suryakiran

    Suryakiran Regular Member

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    Cars with White number plates belongs to PLA? or CMC?
     
  14. huaxia rox

    huaxia rox Senior Member Senior Member

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    i dont know what do u mean by ' certain deng xiaoping' but PLA has tried their best when defending my country (at least before 1990S). the PLA never attacked any country before they attacked or invaded us 1st. tibet was a part of china and the PLA just did what they were supposed to do and i really appreciate that as a chinese.

    belong to PLA or armed police but some plates r actually fake or issued inapproprately by some local govs.
     

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