Is India strong enough to face if China-Pak attack together?

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    China silently occupied more than 32km area of Indian border. 13 Chinese satellites focus all activities of Indian Army. PAK increasing its Army in Indian border . SRI LANKA is giving its 2 Army Airports to CHINA . Naxals already a threat inside (funded by China).
    Apparently relations are well with China but if that is the case why is China preparing as if they are about to go on war with India? Revenge for TIBET issue? Will USA or RUSSIA will suport india against CHINA ? [​IMG]

    Intrestingly Bashar al-Assad asks BRIC nations to end conflict, Syrian army shells Damascus.Sure we have weak leader ship in the count"Today I passed a message from President Bashar al-Assad to President Jacob Zuma, who will preside over the March 26 BRICS summit, on the subject of the situation in Syria," Shaaban said, reached by telephone from Beirut.

    "In this message, President Bashar al-Assad asks for intervention by the BRICS to stop the violence in his country and encourage the opening of a dialogue, which he wishes to start


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    Read more: Bashar al-Assad asks BRIC nations to end conflict, Syrian army shells Damascus | News.com.au

    How far ahead of India is China?
    India is a decade behind China as far as the basic indicators of income are considered. The picture is far less pretty when we look at social indicators
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    Your views, thank you.
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    Dont know what you are smoking, but can you stop posting those silly threads? China funded Naxals? ROFL , if they are funded by China, you should expect more than primitive rockets and handguns from them .
    China got like 5 brigades in Tibet. India is about to raise several corps along LOC on top of what they got today. And China is the one preparing to go on war with India? And revenge for Tibet? WDF. What revenge? Less weed for you, kid.
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    I smoke weed man if u want to know and its our tradition and we ruled the world while smoking weed.. remember? ur Kunfu master DAMO is no one but a Hindu king from south india who thought u and ur ppl how to defend from bandits.Forgot it? hahah chinese have less memories always... learn ur history real one not chinese verson

    but the ground reality says something else.naxal armed with chinese rocket launcher and hand granades.. we got lots of them if u want to know...for ur kind information lil chinese. wat u got? huh? ww2 fighters,tanks subs ? did u ever went for war? haha tatsone big bold statement for a chinese guy appritiate that
    haha funny...Why dont u try to see wat we got? wanna taste some indian chilli yeah go ahead than talking like nut head .wat ever they show on chinese communist run news papers are not true.ground realit says something else lol sad for u lil chinese guy
    hahah i take more weed than a chinese can take after all we smoked first weed man. Do u know that ? that wat happens when u talk about thing chinese thought u.. EPIC FAILURE. history of weed began from india mate .. Wana proof ? haha funny chinese as always. Wat u got in ur army? 80% absolete weapons u want me to point out? u ll be embarresed by it.We decomission after a weapon expire but u dont... In the name of nuclear sub u got lame duck .u got most number of ww2 fighter jets... hehe fight with it.. War in 2013 wont be the same of 1962,... U pulled stoped when we re enforced our then stupid leader made terrible mistake..i assure u it wont happen again ..U ll get wat u deserve.. Taste some indian spices.. it sooo HOTTTTT
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    Seriously, kid, I have no idea what you tried to say there. At least make some effort not to be taken as a clown.

    Here is a simple guide:
    1.Write clear sentences, not like u, monky, hotttt, u ll get wat u etc. Frankly it makes you look like a moron or someone who just escaped from an asylum.

    2. Back your claims with sources that can be verified.

    You think you can do that?
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    haha great chinese army ..woow.Trust me when i say this bro. U will know the reality when u r at war.. Which u never been .. hahaha Ur won ppl will defeat u.. u cant even attack Tiwan.. how shame is tat? U wanna attack india? thats one abitious statement for a lil chinese... woooo haha . SAD man i can feel u soo ashamed .. Dont worry u ll be split into many part..Tibet will be freed soon so as ur other provinces... Haha lil chinese with lil ppls after war with india ... Its ur fate dude.. U got one big elephant waiting to take u down ...I ment DOWN next door..Wat u gona do? huh ? CRY like this as chinese do always... We dont understand anything bla bla bla... it gona be Boom Boom Boom hell lots of rain man ,,.. Have u heard about war? u ll soon
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    Currently the PLAAF and PLA Naval Aviation operate a mixed fighter fleet consisting of both older aircraft fielded in the 1980s, and newer designs introduced in the 1990s

    The current inventory is composed primarily of third- and fourth-generation fighters and fighter-bombers, including 800~1,000 J-7 (MiG-21 Fishbed) and J-8II fighters, 76 Russian-built Su-27 fighters, 95~116 Chinese-assembled J-11 fighters, 76 Russian Su-30MKK multirole fighters, and some 60~80 Chinese indigenous J-10 multirole fighters.Ur relaiablr ac is su 30 mkk without thrust vector

    ground-attack forces continued with the delivery of more JH-7 fighter-bombers. So far at least five JH-7 regiments (3 in the Naval Aviation and 2 in the Air Force) have been identified. At the same time, older aircraft are being upgraded with new systems and capabilities to extend their service life. The ageing H-6 bomber is now being used for carrying the land-attack cruise missile, while the obsolete Q-5 attackers are given the ability to deliver laser-guided munitions.ARE U JOKING? lol

    varify it
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    [​IMG] u r already under our radar.. india is not taiwan or japan
     
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    mod wat am i suppose to debate? if u keep telling me not rep;y? pin point it and tell me dare devil
     
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    daredevil u r so immature .. point me out point by point can u ?
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    Five brigades in Tibet ? What grass are you on ??
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    obvioulsy most of Indian Members have no idea about your so called 'enemy' at all..

    along the East part of LOC ,besides your BSF units, IA's Corp III ,Corp IV, Corp XXXIII are facing just X (around 10) PLA Army border defence Regiments and Y(Y is actually even less than 5) moutain and Armored Brigades . and these three Indian Corps have 8 mountain Divs, 1 Infan. Div., 1 Artillery Div, and a new redeployed Armored Division ,and two more Mountain Divs were raised .

    How funny it is that Indian were keep crying that china would Attack Indian in this area...sigh...
     
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    @mods Is there already a "two-front" war thread? suggest to merge both then
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    Oh simple man...

    Indian forces are inside India but Chinese are ouside their country in Tibet. Chinese are an occupation force and can bring in 30 divisions there in no time.

    Do not take such siplistic appraoch in fooling yourself.
     
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    China preparing Tibet as future war zone

    Gurmeet Kanwal and Monika Chansoria

    The logistics build-up by China opposite India’s eastern theatre is a cause for concern.

    The bonhomie at the Hainan BRICS summit notwithstanding, China’s massive infrastructure build-up in Tibet is causing concern to the government of India. Defence minister A K Antony has spoken in parliament of the rapid development of rail, road, airfield and telecom infrastructure and military camps being undertaken by the Chinese authorities in Tibet. He assured the MPs that ‘necessary steps’ were being taken to counter these developments.

    Antony acknowledged that a road network stretching across 58,000 km coupled with five operational airfields at Gongar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa have come up in Tibet. Besides, extension of the Qinghai Tibet Railway (QTR) line to Xigaze and another line from Kashgar to Hotan in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region is also in progress.
    Effectively controlling the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) is crucial for China’s security as Tibet comprises approximately one-fourth of China’s land mass.

    Control over Tibet forms part of the larger concept of Chinese national integration under President Hu Jintao’s dictum of ‘going down the road of development with Chinese characteristics and a Tibetan flavour.’ In the wake of ethnic violence in Tibet in 2008, increased force levels of the paramilitary people’s armed police, Chinese frontier guards and the garrison duty forces have been stationed in the region.

    Mobile PLA

    China has chosen to upgrade the infrastructure and logistics system in Tibet to enhance the ability of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) to become a more mobile and better-equipped fighting force that can be deployed faster and sustained over a longer period of time.

    The concentrated expansion of infrastructure in Tibet has improved the PLA’s capability to rapidly induct integrated forces.

    The QTR railway line is being further extending westwards from Lhasa to Xigaze. Along with the rapid development of the lateral road network in Tibet and a large numbers of axial roads leading to passes bordering India. The roads are being constructed to military specifications in order to be turned over to the PLA in the event of war or an internal disorder. The logistics build-up opposite India’s eastern theatre is a cause for concern since it augments the PLA’s ability to deploy rapidly from the mainland.

    Construction of new airfields and the upgradation of advanced landing grounds (ALGs) and helipads in and around the TAR, coupled with the acquisition of new transport aircraft, will enhance China’s strategic airlift capability resulting in faster induction and concentration of field formations in comparatively shorter time-frames and, consequently, over shorter warning periods. The construction of airfields and ALGs closer to Indian borders boosts the PLA Air Force fighter aircrafts’ striking range and provides it the ability to strike and engage targets in India on a broad front and in depth.

    Another major infrastructure development is the construction of new missile bases in Tibet. According to recent reports, China has placed advanced Dong Feng-21 medium-range ballistic missiles along the borders it shares with India. During a future conflict with India, the PLA could easily move 500 to 600 mobile ballistic missile launchers to bases close to the Indian border from their current deployment opposite Taiwan.

    Complexities of the Tibetan terrain, vagaries of climate, and sustenance capacities of the thrust lines chosen, are all factors that influence the depth of operations that are planned to be undertaken. To address this aspect, the PLA is reportedly constructing Hyperbaric Chambers to facilitate the rapid acclimatisation of troops brought in from lower altitudes. It is also building the first batch of oxygen-enriched barracks using plants for troops in the TAR at the Nagchu Military Sub-Command at an altitude of 4,500 metres.

    It is in the Indian interest to upgrade the logistics infrastructure in the states bordering Tibet so as to facilitate the rapid reinforcement of sectors threatened by the Chinese during any future conflict. Simultaneously, India should enhance its intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities to maintain all round vigil on the border. The army and the air force must also upgrade their firepower capabilities by an order of magnitude so as to engage and destroy PLA forces at a distance. It needs to be remembered that effective defence does not come cheap.

    (The authors are with the Centre for Land Warfare Studies, New Delhi)

    China preparing Tibet as future war zone
     
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    Re: If China & Pakistan attack India together, is the India strong eno

    2.1.3 PLA Army Units in Chengdu Military Region

    2.1.3.1 13th Group Army
    |——2nd Army Aviation Regiment
    |——37th Mortorized Infantry Division
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    |——149th Mountain Mechanized Infantry Division
    |
    |——Artillery Brigade
    |
    |——Armor Brigade
    |
    |——AA-Gun Air Defense Brigade

    2.1.3.2 14th Group Army
    |——40th Infantry Division:|——18th Artillery Regiment
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    |——31st Mechanized Infantry Division
    |
    |——4th Artillery Brigade
    |
    |——Armor Brigade
    |
    |——149th Motorised Infantry Division

    2.1.3.3 Tibetan Military District
    |——52nd Mountain Brigade
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    |——53rd Mountain Brigade9th Border Defense Regiment
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    |——10th Border Defense Regiment
    |
    |——11th Border Defense Regiment
    |
    |——12th Border Defense Regiment

    2.1.3.4 Yunnan Military District
    |——9th Border Defense Regiment
    |
    |——10th Border Defense Regiment
    |
    |——11th Border Defense Regiment
    |
    |——12th Border Defense Regiment
     
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    2.1.5 PLA Army Units in Lanzhou Military Region

    2.1.5.1 21st Group Army
    |——61st high-land Mortorized Infantry Division
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    |——12th Armor Division
    |
    |——19th Artillery Brigade
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    |——Air Defense Brigade

    2.1.5.2 47th Group Army
    |——139th Mechanized Infantry Brigade
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    |——6th Artillery Brigade
    |
    |——Armor Brigade
    |
    |——55th high-land Infantry Brigade
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    |——56th high-land Infantry Brigade

    2.1.5.3 Xinjiang Military District
    |——4th Independant Mortorized Infantry Division
    |
    |——6th Mechanized Infantry Division
    |
    |——8th Independant Mortorized Infantry Division
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    |——11th Independant Mortorized Infantry Division
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    |——2nd Independant Artillery Brigade
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    |——13th Independant AA-gun Air Defense Brigade
     
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    2.1.7 PLA Army Units in Guangzhou Military Region

    2.1.7.1 41st group army
    |——direct control unit:|——communication regiment
    | |——engineering regiment
    |
    |——121st Mortorized Infantry Division:|——361st Regiment
    | |——364th Regiment
    | |——501st Artillery Regiment
    | |—— AA-gun Air Defense Regiment
    | |——Armor Regiment
    |
    |——123rd Mechanized Infantry Division:|——367th Regiment
    | |——369th Regiment
    | |——503rd Artillery Regiment
    | |—— AA-gun Air Defense Regiment
    | |——Armor Regiment
    |
    |——Artillery Brigade
    |
    |——19th Air Defense Brigade
    |
    |——Armor Division

    2.1.7.2 42nd group Army
    |——direct control unit:|——communication regiment
    | |——engineering regiment
    | |——Chemical Regiment
    | |——6th Army Aviation Regiment
    | |——Electronic Counter-measuring Regiment
    | |——Special Force Detachment
    |
    |——124th Amphibious Mechanized Infantry Division:|——370th Regiment
    | |——372nd Regiment
    | |——Artillery Regiment
    | |——AA-gun Air Defense Regiment
    | |——Armor Regiment
    |
    |——163rd Mortorized Infantry Division:|——487th Regiment
    | |——488th Regiment
    | |——Artillery Regiment
    | |——AA-gun Air Defense Regiment
    | |——Armor Regiment
    |
    |——1st Artillery Division:|——25th Artillery Regiment
    | |——26th Artillery Regiment
    | |——27th Artillery Regiment
    | |——52nd Artillery Regiment
    | |——209th multi-Rocket launch regiment
    |
    |——Air Defense Brigade
    |
    |——9th Armor Brigade

    2.1.7.3 Hainan Military District
    |——132nd Infantry Brigade
     
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    funny...is this your work? just urgently google something to show your knowledge? loads of mistake here.. poor try indeed

    none of the Border Defenese Regiment code designation in this order of units in Tibetan Military District are correct , some others are obviously absent....and it is funny to see these Regiments are in the formation of the so called "2.1.3.4 Yunnan Military District" as well...what a simple mistake..and what you did is just showing us how the limited PLA army deployment in XiZhang(Tibet) district

    stop post those rubbish here...I don't have time to help you to correct it....it's a big work..
     
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    You are being awsome..... skinning hairs..

    The idea was to tell you that all these formations are either meant for Tibet or are near tibet like you pointed that III Corps of IA which is in Assama is on borders...
     
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