Is China the World’s New Colonial Power?

[Hiranyaksha]

I have all due respect for the West.

And I'm very excited about " Industrial revolution 4.0" and cheaper equipment, cheaper money, like u mentioned.

Let Africans make use of all the goodies u talk about, be it from China or Europe,or even India.

As for Chinese wishing to settle in Europe, or in Africa (probably millions according to the original post), I'd say - the more the better. Frankly a population of 1.4b is too much, over-straining and unsustainable for the environment and a landmass of China with less arable land than India. And too much stress too.

So move out as many as possible for more lebensraum. Meantime a strong China is helpful for Africa (and the whole world) as well as overseas Chinese.

Industry 4.0 is already here. I have been dealing lot with Chinese and European equipment.
Good luck with occupying Africa.It is only better for the world if you guys made it more habitable. Lots of used to be superpowers tried it. It is too unstable and too volatile. Yep Mongoloid race needs space for expansion.

Lots of Chinese, here in west, I interacted with, want democracy in China. Stronger Democratic China is helpful for overseas Chinese and Everyone. But hey it is quite a nice life if you happen to part of top dogs. No complaining then. LoL . Those guys life is fun. Spending 40K-50K USD per dinner while rest of the China starves.

 

[Tarun Kumar]

How does China have less arable land than India with land mass 3 times the size of India and all major Asian rivers.

 

[Mikesingh]

How does China have less arable land than India with land mass 3 times the size of India and all major Asian rivers.

India has the second largest amount of arable land of any country after the U.S. Although the total land area of the country is only slightly more than one third of China’s, India’s arable land is marginally bigger than China’s.

In fact, India has had more land under paddy cultivation than China every year since 1960. Yet, China out-produces India by a wide margin. Although the production disparity has decreased over time, paddy yield continues to be significantly higher in China than in India.

 

[amoy]

Industry 4.0 is already here. I have been dealing lot with Chinese and European equipment.
Good luck with occupying Africa.It is only better for the world if you guys made it more habitable. Lots of used to be superpowers tried it. It is too unstable and too volatile. Yep Mongoloid race needs space for expansion.

Lots of Chinese, here in west, I interacted with, want democracy in China. Stronger Democratic China is helpful for overseas Chinese and Everyone. But hey it is quite a nice life if you happen to part of top dogs. No complaining then. LoL . Those guys life is fun. Spending 40K-50K USD per dinner while rest of the China starves.

Honestly I'm not so fervent about "race" as u r, what mongoloid... ?

Occupying Africa? It's all up to individual choice, some wishing to stay, some leaving after earning some bucks.

As for democracy, yeah I love it and am sure it will come in due course, but meantime pragmatically am assuming it is a process of gradual evolvement, instead of dramatic leaps. Frankly for the %% of indians in extreme poverty and illiteracy (harsh reality out of your ivory tower), it's a myth how indian (nominal) democracy filters down and takes root...

The upper (political) super-structures are built on economic bases. Can India defy this universal rule?

Yeah top dogs and the social disparity. But no Chinese are starving (even the poorest) since there is no such "extreme poverty" like India ~ safely to say.

I've seen such poverty in a few countries but never in China. In other words the bottomline is higher in China in terms of living. According to my observation the coastal part of China is a "developed" country already.

 

[Screambowl]

China is indeed a power no doubt. Their economy allows them to spend as much as they want. But they still lack most of the most critical technologies which will make them real military power.

 

[no smoking]

Industry 4.0 is already here. I have been dealing lot with Chinese and European equipment.

So, you got nothing to complain, neither do Africans.

Good luck with occupying Africa.It is only better for the world if you guys made it more habitable. Lots of used to be superpowers tried it. It is too unstable and too volatile. Yep Mongoloid race needs space for expansion.

That is really cheap accusation. How many Chinese soldiers are deployed in Africa? Are you saying Chinese is expanding their land by sending business men? Based on your own logic, can I say that Indian is doing the same thing since there are quite a lot Indian businessmen there?

Lots of Chinese, here in west, I interacted with, want democracy in China. Stronger Democratic China is helpful for overseas Chinese and Everyone. But hey it is quite a nice life if you happen to part of top dogs. No complaining then. LoL . Those guys life is fun. Spending 40K-50K USD per dinner while rest of the China starves.

Sure, the underdogs in India are having a better life than Chinese underdog since they are eating more, earning more. Wait, which earth are we talking about?

 

[sthf]

Pretty weird that after the all the shit show not a peep comes out of Chinis about the epic disaster called Hambantota.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Pretty weird that after the all the shit show not a peep comes out of Chinis about the epic disaster called Hambantota.

Well, it's a disaster for Sri Lanka, but it's windfall for China as they've bullied their way into extorting land from the Lankans.

 

[amoy]

According to Chinese footwear manufacturers:

Chinese workers' average wage is CNY 3500-4500 per month, vs. Ethiopian CNY 400-500 a month (USD 1= CNY 6.9), around 1/7 of Chinese.

Ethiopians have a 6-day work-week, vs. Chinese mostly 5-day, or 5.5-day. 13 days of national holidays. Half the power price of China.
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Chinese-built industrial park to boost Ethiopian economy, employment

ADDIS ABABA — Aboret Alemu is toiling in the Arerti Industrial Park, currently under construction and part of Ethiopian government's drive to build special economic zones where domestic and foreign companies can use local labor to manufacture and export goods.

The industrial park, located 140 kilometers east of the capital city Addis Ababa, is designed and being built by China Communications Construction Company (CCCC), one of several industrial parks the government is building across the country with a view to making the horn of Africa nation a manufacturing hub.

Alemu, an assistant to a site manager at the industrial park, says the experience gained from a Chinese mentor is the reason he is braving the heat and working at the site.

"Our skin colors may differ, but we feel like we're one people. My mentor, a hardworking and efficient carpenter who has returned to China, is the one that's motivated me to work here," he says.

Woody Lau, business manager at CCCC says Arerti Industrial Park, is expected to employ about 400 persons when the first phase incorporating a ceramic plant is finished at a cost of tens of millions of US dollars.

"We're building another industrial park in Mekelle city, capital of Tigray regional state, 783 kms north of Addis Ababa, as well as the 220 kms Mekelle-Woldiya electrified rail line," he says, emphasizing the multi-sectoral nature of CCCC's projects in Ethiopia.

CCCC is not new to building projects that have had strategic changes to Ethiopia, with its trademark finished project being Ethiopia's first toll road the Addis-Ababa Adama expressway inaugurated in April 2014.

Chinese companies including CCCC are engaged in activities ranging from building industrial parks, setting up leather factories, constructing rail lines and roads.

The Ethiopian government is relying on help from Chinese firms to give employment opportunities to its predominantly young population, boost knowledge transfer and earn much needed hard currency for its fast developing economy.

With a mostly young population of about 100 million the second largest in Africa after Nigeria, Ethiopia is betting on investments in industrial parks including from Chinese firms to help meet the demands of job market and keep the nation stable and prosperous.

 

[busesaway]

The United States is the current world imperialist power. It has a disproportionate influence over every aspect of global affairs (politics, military, economics, culture, etc...) and its attempts to Americanize everything should be halted.

China isn't purely communist because it allows private individuals to own companies and build wealth to the detriment of the lower classes.

But the current era of China was born from a communist revolution that placed the country under the rule of a single-party government, which still continues to govern today; its economic policies are more akin to socialism than communism.

Russia is incredibly capitalist nowadays. It has very little in terms of socialism and welfare. It's been ruled by a powerful group of wealthy businessmen and politicians for the past few decades.

India is a moderated form of liberalism with socialist leanings. It was born from a very interventionist socialist birth and has been slowly reforming itself into a liberal economic model, to tie in with its liberal/multicultural model too.

I think the best economic model is one that allows the free market to run its course, but where government intervenes using investment funds and the occasional regulation (akin to France's dirigisme), and where government adopts a protectionist stance to stop money flowing into the wrong hands. But I'm not an expert on economics.

 

[leap-x]

It is disgusting to see China been accusing of colonialism, which both China and India suffered for a long time. It is another example of prejudice and bias against China. No matter how much you guys boasting about your freedom and unlimited access to information, you can still be hypocritical,narrow-minded idiots.

 

[leap-x]

China isn't purely communist because it allows private individuals to own companies and build wealth to the detriment of the lower classes.

[/QUOTE]

we called it Chinese special socialism. I think it is a kind of national capitalism. Or as our former leader Deng said，black or white, It is a good cat if it catch mouse. The name does not matter if
the system works to creat wealth and redistributed equitably.

It seems China made a big U turn. But I want to say it does't mean we made the wrong choice at first.

Socialism/communism is a reflection of capitalism's darkness.Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels saw enough of capitalism's weakness,greedy,crime. they thought capitalism was doomed and the answer was to overthrow the whole system and replace it with socialism/communism. they were wrong.
Social welfare reform and scientific progress help wealthy countries triumph against temptation of revolution while Russian and China did not have material base for such reform.
Both socialism and capitalism have problem. I think we should be alert that if capitalism go out of control,revolution will come again.

 

[SanjeevM]

Seeing the growing influence of Chinese worldwide, India should take the lessons and ACT ASAP NOW!!!

1. We have a very large number of students from African subcontinent studying in various Indian universities. Treat them with respect. We need to have people to people contact. Once these students go back to their respective countries, they should carry happy memories.

2. Many incidents are reported on Indian paid media channels that are blown out of proportion. We need to put a check on such reporting.

3. Indian businessmen should explore African subcontinent for business opportunities.

4. With collaboration with group of African ambassadors, we can promote tourism in respective countries. Let Indian businessmen go to African subcontinent and explore opportunities.

5. Indian government through its embassies should get more information about the business opportunities. Instead of treating the job of ambassadors and staff in Indian embassies as a vacation, we should be sending people with business bent of mind. We should give them revenue/trade targets that they can facilitate between India and African subcontinent.

6. Indian businessmen community should be educated regarding opportunities in African subcontinent. They can set up manufacturing bases in those countries because of abundant cheap Labour.

7. Indian businessmen can get land on long term lease and do plantation in abundance. We know there is demand for flowers, rubber, coconut, groundnuts, tea, coffee and such other things. If we can procure land in African subcontinent, we can grow these there and can reduce the cost of input for our industries. Also can export.

8. Indian automakers can also look for opportunities in African subcontinent.

9. Tractor makers and other heavy equipment makers have great opportunities in African subcontinent.

List is endless. I hope government as well as businessmen community wake-up in right time and ACT ASAP.

 

[roma]

It was a looong article so dont expect us to read all of it

couple of points stuck out - they want de facto total control and the profits 90% to Chinese and 10% to gov of namibia

plus before they ddint have shoes now they have thanks to china

of course china will provide something to them of beneifit ....china is not gonna say we are the devil come and eat out of our hand ....of course not

they will even give a lot but they want one or two things and those will be crucial ........ basically they will erode your control over your own country and gradually theu y will put their stooges i your financial institutions and political institutions culture until you have no choice but to follow their dictates .......china seems to be succeeding in economic colonialism where japan did not

 

[Kay]

China is indeed a power no doubt. Their economy allows them to spend as much as they want. But they still lack most of the most critical technologies which will make them real military power.

They are buying out western companies in numbers to get that technology. Also, they are sensing the leadership vacuum in Washington and making their moves.

 

[Screambowl]

They are buying out western companies in numbers to get that technology. Also, they are sensing the leadership vacuum in Washington and making their moves.

Indians are stingy in spending this is the other reson wh our economy , domestic local market is down.

 

[Kay]

Indians are stingy in spending this is the other reson wh our economy , domestic local market is down.

Also the reason we don't go down in recession.. China being opaque and not true market economy, can play around...the US simply prints more dollars and gets out of trouble, we have to do the hard work to get out of trouble...its good being stingy

 

[Screambowl]

Also the reason we don't go down in recession.. China being opaque and not true market economy, can play around...the US simply prints more dollars and gets out of trouble, we have to do the hard work to get out of trouble...its good being stingy

we don't get down in recession is due to solid property

 

[Kay]

Today in NYT
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/business/china-railway-one-belt-one-road-1-trillion-plan.html

 

[cw2005]

There are more Indian business in Nigeria than the Chinese. If you walk into many big Nigerian companies, knock at the MD office door and enter, you would very likely find an Indian CEO sitting there. Chinese companies are mainly in the field of telecom and civil engineering. Incidently, huge Chinese group Huawei is building the 4G optics in Nigeria, but it subcontracts the job of laying the optics cable to Indian companies here. All these are welcome by Nigerian as it is affordable in doing this way. The West had been here for long time but done little.