Is China harvesting organs from ethnic minorities?

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    Is China harvesting organs from ethnic minorities?

    by Michael Cook | 10 Dec 2011

    China has admitted that it harvests organs from condemned prisoners, but very little information about the practice has emerged in the press. Executed prisoners are believed to account for two-thirds of all transplants, although the government apparently wants to promote a voluntary scheme.

    But who are these prisoners? Even less information is available about this, although the Falun Gong, a persecuted indigenous group, claims that its members are being killed for their organs.

    A frightening article in the Weekly Standard sheds some light on the situation. Investigative journalist Ethan Gutmann interviewed several Uighur refugees now living in the West who had witnessed the process of organ transplantation. They tell stories of ghastly abuses of political prisoners.

    The Uighur ethnic minority live in Xinjiang, the vast, arid Western province of China. They are not Chinese but Turkic; most are Muslims and a few have joined terrorist groups. To smother the possibility of revolt, the government has been encouraging Han Chinese to migrate there. In the 1990s there were riots which resulted in hundreds of deaths and arrests. “When it comes to the first organ harvesting of political prisoners, Xinjiang was ground zero,” says Gutmann.

    From what they told him, it appears that prisoners are injected with an anticoagulant. Then they are dispatched with a bullet in the right side of the chest. This leaves them unconscious but still alive. Organs are quickly removed, without anaesthetic, to ensure that they are fresh. They are immediately transplanted to patients, who appear to be mostly Communist Party officials.

    Although most articles on the topic have depicted the prisoners as hardened criminals, Gutmann interviewed an Uighur policeman who told him that organs were harvested from young men arrested in political demonstrations. In the late 1990s, a young Uighur doctor was told “harvesting political prisoners was normal. A growing export. High volume. The military hospitals are leading the way.”

    When political unrest died down in Xinjiang, harvesting organs from Falun Gong started.

    “By my estimate up to three million Falun Gong practitioners would pass through the Chinese corrections system. Approximately 65,000 would be harvested, hearts still beating, before the 2008 Olympics. An unspecified, significantly smaller, number of House Christians and Tibetans likely met the same fate. By Holocaust standards these are piddling numbers, so let’s be clear: China is not the land of the final solution. But it is the land of the expedient solution.”

    After riots in 2009, harvesting from Uighur political prisoners has resumed. Gutmann concludes:

    “China, a state rapidly approaching superpower status, has not just committed human rights abuses—that’s old news—but has, for over a decade, perverted the most trusted area of human expertise into performing what is, in the legal parlance of human rights, targeted elimination of a specific group.”

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    Shame to China and Muslim Ummah. :mad2:
     
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    Are you referring to our thakedar Pakistan? They are very much aware of all this. They will still prefer to have PRC as their master. That is the irony!
     
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    Yeah, I know.

    It's height of hypocrisy. :pound:
     
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    i dunno but the news is a bit too ghastly. i will like to see a little more proof.
    however if this is proven then sever steps must be taken.
     
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    The entire Ummah are a bunch of India haters, bhai. They are only against India no matter what others do... simply due to historic factors. China is not their enemy because:

    1- It is simply too powerful for any Muslim nation, meaning that any Islamic country fancying a jihad against it will be turned to a pile of ashes in minutes.

    2- They are supporting a motive against West for now. So they are convenience allies for now.

    While India remains neutral and we don't bother with either, irritating the Ummah. Personally I feel that, we should have enough military power and central governance power to silence OIC at international forums.
     
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    Not only powerful but also equally intolerant unlike USA which can be infiltrated through sleeper cells by our Paki brothers.
     
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    Yes, True.

    Majority of Ummah are Indian haters. They only support India for strategic interest, Business and Diplomacy. They can't be trusted. I have not seen much hatred from them against China for much more valid reason. They are bunch of hypocrites and of course led by Paki and Wahhabi. This is the reason, We have a very good friend like Israel which is trustworthy. :)

    We need to improve our defence capability a lot. So That this time we will not only stop them on NW side but march ahead towards Far west.
     
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    human resource exploitation
     
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    "From what they told him, it appears that prisoners are injected with an anticoagulant."


    This pretty much summons up the whole article. So much for investigating journalism. 8)

    Guess some people browser through the internet looking for any China bashing regardless the source and content.

    Have fun, people.
     
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    Uirgurs are ethnically not related to muslims on the subcontinent. So trying to drive a wedge between China and muslim countries there will be futile. China is not out against Islam, she is out against terrorisits and separatists, guys who are enermy of the state. China has the right to deal with radical separatists any way she wishes.

    Also Uigurs don't make up the majority population in Xinjiang, in fact they don't even belong to Xinjiang as their ancestors came from elsewhere. People from other ethnicities, including Han, Hui, have been there far longer. Uigurs are most hated not by the Han, but by other muslim populations in Xinjiang like Uzbeks, Tajiks, Huis, etc. Uigurs have such bad reputation (synonym for thieves in China) now they have even been abandoned by Turkey who is now becoming more friendly with China than ever. Right now Uigurs are completely isolated, if they don't behave they will be left in dust as people from other minorities are rapidly progressing in their living stand.
     
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    We don't encourage the two to mix either. The last thing we want is a bunch of central Asians asking our own people on what to do. The point we Indians are trying to make is that if you feel that these are terrorists and separatists against your country, you should also respect the same action that we take against Pakistani terrorists and then not support them.

    Give others the treatment that you want for yourself. We both are neighbors and if only your Red party wasn't so bloke-headed, we'd be upholding entire Asia's defense together. But because of your CCP's obsession against us, whole Asia has become fragmented again.
     
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    Indeed they are harvesting organs from prisoners of ethnic minorities. In fact, they are doing it to the ethnic majority, the hans.

    Chinese is not a distinct ethnicity, it is an aggregate of a multitude of ethnicities including the Uighers.
     
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    This article is baseless. Please try to find out if there is any credible evidence within this article. Falungong been accusing this for a long time but can hardly find out any evidence. That is why they can not find any support from any major human right group.
    By the way, Check out FalunGong Official Preaching site and read their miracle(天上人间) section, they claims just by worshiping Lihongzhi and practicing Falungong can cure late stage cancer. Here is a linkMinghui.org 明慧网 - 法轮功|法轮大法|李洪志|真相|修炼
     
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    Are you distorting things??

    IslamicAwakening.Com: The Plight of the Uighurs: China’s Muslims Suffering As Much As the Tibetans
    Nov 26, 2011

    The Plight of the Uighurs: China’s Muslims Suffering As Much As the Tibetans



    Fahad Ansari
    Article ID: 1394 | 4544 Reads



    For the past six months, the international journey of the Olympic flame to Beijing for the 2008 Games has been disrupted regularly by protestors demonstrating about a variety of issues. Some of these are China’s support for regimes in Sudan, North Korea and Myanmar, the political status of Taiwan, and the persecution of the Falun Gong movement. The number one grievance, however, has been China’s occupation of Tibet and the oppression of its local inhabitants. From Athens to London, from Paris to San Francisco, and from Jakarta to Canberra, the Tibetans’ plight has brought tens of thousands of people onto the streets; some activists have even physically assaulted the torch-bearers, and many have been arrested. Despite this, the global mass media, almost without exception, have portrayed these activists as heroic, courageous and inspiring.

    In recent months, another segment of Chinese society has been organising similar protests against the Olympic flame’s journey through their areas. These protests have barely warranted a mention in the mainstream media, their cause not one to be celebrated or even whispered. Where it has been discussed, it has usually been in the context of fighting terrorism. Several of these activists have been arrested, detained and even executed for their dissent. They demand the end of Chinese human-rights abuses against their people and to the dilution of their culture by the mass migration of Han Chinese to their region. Their solution is the liberation of their land from Chinese occupation. The only difference is that their religion is not Buddhism but Islam. They are the Uighurs of China’s oil-rich northwestern province of Xinjiang.

    History

    The Uighurs are an ethnically Turkic Muslim people who have lived in what is now known as the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) for over 4,000 years. Known as Eastern Turkestan for hundreds of years, Xinjiang is located along the famous “Silk Road”, beyond the Great Wall, the natural boundary of China. Islam entered the region in the middle of the tenth century and has flourished among the Uighurs ever since. The Uighurs ruled an independent kingdom, with a mixed Muslim and Buddhist population, that stood until 1759, when the Manchu Chinese invaded and destroyed it; their domination lasted until 1864. During this period, the Uighurs revolted 42 times against Manchu rule, trying to regain their independence. In the revolt of 1864, the Uighurs were successful in expelling the Manchu from East Turkestan, and founded the independent Kashgaria kingdom under the leadership of Yakub Beg. This kingdom was recognized by the Ottoman Empire, Tsarist Russia and Britain.

    However, twelve years later, in 1876, a large Manchu force, with the aid of the British, once again attacked and conquered East Turkestan. After this invasion, East Turkestan was renamed “Xinjiang”, which means “New Territory”, and it was annexed by the Manchu Empire on November 18, 1884. What followed were several rebellions by various Uighur movements which succeeded in setting up an independent Islamic Eastern Turkestan Republic in both 1933 and 1944. With the rise of the Communist Party in China in 1949, however, the most brutal chapter in the history of the Muslims of Xinjiang commenced.

    After occupying the province in the 1950s, the Communist regime began a programme of settlement of Han Chinese in Xinjiang in a process of colonisation to secure, control and exploit the region; since then there has been an enormous influx of Han immigrants into Xinjiang. Today, the Han population has risen from just over 6 percent of the region’s population in 1949 to about 40 percent now: that is more than eight million out of a total of 20 million inhabitants.

    Religious Persecution

    Currently, Xinjiang is the only province of China to have a Muslim majority; it and occupied Tibet are the only administrative regions of China in which the ethnic Chinese still constitute a minority. It is China’s largest ‘annexed’ province, accounting for 16 percent of its landmass with only 1.6 percent of its population. Xinjiang has tremendous strategic significance for China: nuclear tests have been conducted at the Lop Nor Range; a large portion of China’s mineral resources are found there, including 38 percent of its coal reserves and 25 percent of its petroleum and natural gas reserves. Despite this wealth, more than 90 percent of Muslims live below the poverty line. Money has poured in, but has mostly benefited the Han Chinese.

    The Uighurs find themselves in a very similar situation to that of the people of Tibet. Like the Tibetans, Uighurs have endured decades of discrimination and oppression under Chinese rule. A religious and ethnic minority, they are routinely denied basic civil, religious and political rights. For them, China has been in occupation of their land, known to them as East Turkestan, for several centuries. Several separatist movements, such as the East Turkestan Islamic Party (ETIP), have emerged during this time, leading to even more severe repression, designed to suppress Uighur nationalist sentiment. As Islam is perceived as the ideology underpinning Uighur ethnic identity, the government also represses most outward expressions of Islam.

    Actions that are strictly forbidden for Uighurs include celebrating Islamic festivals, studying religious texts or dressing in Islamic garb at state institutions, including schools. The Chinese government vets who can be an imam, what version of the Qur’an is acceptable, where religious gatherings may be held, and what may be said at such gatherings. Recently introduced regulations forbid local government employees and young men under the age of eightern from praying in the mosque, ban teachers from wearing beards and students from bringing the Qur’an to university. In June, a court in the region sentenced five Muslim imams to seven years’ imprisonment for illegally organising Hajj pilgrimages to Makkah. The imams were also charged with illegally providing copies of the Qur’an at a recent sentencing rally in Xayar County, near Aksu City.

    Uighurs are - almost without exception - the only ethnic group in China to be routinely executed for political offences. Since September 2001, China has used the US-led “war on terror” as an excuse to oppress Uighurs with impunity, persecuting many who have peacefully protested their treatment. Uighurs have been jailed for reading newspapers sympathetic to the cause of independence. Others have been detained merely for listening to Radio Free Asia, an English-language station funded by the US. Even the most peaceful Uighur activists, if they practise Islam in a way that the authorities deem inappropriate, risk arrest and torture. China regularly dubs Uighur historians, poets and writers “intellectual terrorists” and sends them to jail. In June 2003 Abdulghani Memetemin, a teacher and journalist, was sentenced to nine years in jail for “providing state secrets for an organisation outside the country”. What he had actually done was help the East Turkestan Information Centre, an NGO based in Germany and run by exiled Uighurs, with its work by sending it news reports and transcripts of speeches by Chinese officials. In 2005 Nurmemet Yasin, a young intellectual, was sentenced to a decade in prison for writing an allegory comparing the Uighurs’ predicament with that of a pigeon in a cage.

    Amnesty International has documented that, since 2001, “tens of thousands of people are reported to have been detained for investigation in the region, and hundreds, possibly thousands, have been charged or sentenced under the Criminal Law; many Uighurs are believed to have been sentenced to death and executed for alleged “separatist” or “terrorist” offences.” AI has further reported that once imprisoned, detainees are subjected to types of torture from cigarette-burns on the skin to submersion in water or raw sewage. Prisoners have had toenails extracted by pliers, been attacked by dogs and burned with electric batons, even cattle prods. One terrifying account is the story of a prisoner who had horse hair inserted into the tip of his penis. Throughout this brutality, the victim was forced to wear a metal helmet on his head because a previous inmate had been so traumatised by his treatment in the prison that he had beaten his own head against a radiator in an attempt to take his life.

    In a 2005 report, Human Rights Watch accused China of “opportunistically using the post-11 September environment to make the outrageous claim that individuals disseminating peaceful religious and cultural messages in Xinjiang are terrorists who have simply changed tactics”. The report stated that the systematic repression of religion in Xinjiang, including the vetting of imams, the closure of mosques and the execution and detention of thousands of people every year, was continuing as “a matter of considered state policy”.

    Olympic Threat

    In the run up to the Olympic Games, China has increased its persecution of the Uighurs to unprecedented levels. China has justified this crackdown in the name of national security to counter the “threat” of Uighur Muslim militants eager to exploit the Olympics for their own political agenda. Chinese officials have announced that they have recently foiled numerous planned attacks by Uighur Muslims, including plots to kidnap athletes and bring down commercial airliners.

    On July 9 Chinese police shot dead five Uighur men in a raid on an apartment in the city of Urumchi, Xinjiang’s capital. They were part of a group of fifteen, all of whom, according to China’s official Xinhua news agency, had been armed with knives and engaged in planning “holy war” against “infidels”. No independent sources have verified the official version of events. In addition, the Chinese-language Xinhua report of the incident made no mention of the “holy war” training or intent to harm Han Chinese people that were included in the English-language Xinhua report. According to unofficial accounts of the raid obtained by the Uighur American Association (UAA), the fifteen young Uighurs were merely gathered peacefully in the apartment. After police used teargas on the premises and entered the location without any warning or call to surrender, the unarmed young men and women fled into an open field, where police fired on them with machine-guns.

    On the same day, a court in Kashgar, in the southern part of East Turkestan, sentenced five Uighurs to death out of a group of fifteen. Two of the five were shot immediately after being sentenced, and the other three were sentenced to execution after a two-year reprieve. The remaining ten Uighurs were sentenced to life imprisonment. All fifteen were convicted of terrorism charges and illegal religious teachings. No evidence was presented to substantiate these claims.

    According to the UAA, 10,000 Uighurs in Kashgar were ordered to gather together by police and forced to attend the sentencing rally for these fifteen Uighurs. Video cameras, mobile phones and other recording equipment were prohibited. Forced attendance at these “sentencing rallies” is intended to intimidate Uighurs and enforce strict social control. These rallies often take place after swift summary trials.

    As Olympic games’ the opening ceremony on August 8 approaches, this persecution in the name of security has spread to Chinese civil society, where increasing levels of paranoia are apparent. While hotels in Beijing are busy welcoming guests from around the world, they are turning away China’s own ethnic minorities, especially Uighur Muslims. Last month, the Globe and Mail reported how a young Uighur couple and their infant daughter searched dozens of hotels in Beijing for a place to stay. Most of the hotel clerks, mistaking them for foreigners, welcomed them and offered a room. But when the couple pulled out their identity cards, the clerks realized they were Muslim Uighurs. The response was always the same: Sorry, no room at the inn. Turned away by every hotel, the family rented an old car for $20 a day and slept in it for two nights. The conditions were so bad that their two-month-old baby fell ill. Eventually, they abandoned the car and begged to stay at a cousin’s overcrowded apartment before leaving the city.

    Signs like the following have also been posted up in many public buildings in Beijing:

    Whenever anyone that can be identified as “Tibetans”, “Xinjiang Uighurs” and “Qinghai Hualong Hui’s” enters the building, please report them to the security department. Security guards will persuade them to leave the building, or follow them till they do so.

    Until recently, Beijing had dozens of Uighur restaurants, but most have been forced to close in the past two years as the security clampdown has tightened. In late June, the Chinese authorities demolished a mosque in Kalpin county, Xinjiang, for refusing to put up signs in support of the Beijing Olympics. World Uighur Congress spokesman Dilxat Raxit stated that the mosque, renovated in 1998, had been accused of illegally renovating the structure, carrying out illegal religious activities and illegally storing copies of the Qur’an.

    Conclusion

    The dual prism through which Chinese human-rights abuses are viewed is glaringly apparent. Chinese repression in Tibet brings forth the strongest condemnation from the governments and people of the world. Almost identical subjugation in Xinjiang goes unnoticed or is seen as a necessary response to a security threat. Most people have never even heard of the Uighurs. As the Olympics proceed, it is inevitable that more terrorist plots, real, imagined or fabricated, will be ‘foiled’ by the Chinese authorities. These will be used as pretexts to further oppress a people about whom the rest of the world knows virtually nothing. For Muslims, the responsibility is to publicise the plight of their brethren in China so that the sight of the Chinese authorities putting down demonstrators holding “Free East Turkestan” placards will provoke the international moral outrage at present reserved for pro-Tibet activists.
     
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    The Chinese have unique way to overcome issues that plague their nation.

    This is a 'fascinating' manner in which it appears China is killing two birds with one stone - getting rid of 'splittists', and at the same time, organising a bonanza in organs for transplant to save many Han lives!
     
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    Falun Gong Human Rights Working Group

    UN Reports the Chilling Facts on Organ Harvesting from Live Falun Gong Practitioners
     
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    Uighurs ethnicity is not material.

    What is material is the crime against humanity that is shocking the world!

    China is indeed against Islam and Christianity, they being foreign religion to China. That is why both the religions are under strict control and monitoring of the CCP through its apparatchiks.

    The Christian Church cannot appoint its own Bishop or Priest, and same is the case of Islam, where the Mullahs cannot be appointed by their religious fraternity. Even the same is the case of the Buddhists of Tibet. The religious functionaries are appointed by the CCP and the sermons are cleared by the CCP before they can be preached in the respective prayer congregation i.e. Church, Monastery or Mazjid!

    That is why there are underground Churches in China called Home Church.

    Muslims are not allowed religious education, which in every other country in the world, is allowed. 18 and below, apart from being denied religious education are also not allowed in the Mosque. They are not allowed to undertake one of the holiest of their ritual called Ramzan and are forced to eat, when they are supposed to fast as per their religion. There are a whole lot of atrocities that are heaped, but less said the better.

    So Uighurs are thieves?

    That is a new one!
     
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    True that there is nothing like Chinese in China.

    95% are Hans and even they are not actually Hans, but the result of 'assimilation' of barbarians, as the 'outer people' were called!

    Huis are domesticated Muslims.
     

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