Iranian Revolution

[Kshatriya87]

non are Saints.... i accept,
but Iran has done noting big crimes like US did in these countries ...............

Except for kicking shah and Americans out of iran.

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[Kshatriya87]

General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

I've seen this before. But perhaps their 5 year plan didn't work out as Iraq and Afghanistan took a lot of time.

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[Kshatriya87]

Quit your yapping. It's Iranians themselves who are already feed up with their theocracy! Would you want to be ruled by an incompetent self-ordained personal secretary of All@h? Iranians are having hardships and they felt their voices are not heard by All@'s annointed Persian ruler so they protest. What's wrong with that.

You and @brahmos are both right. Iran gov is no good. Iranian people have a problem with them. But when compared to USA mischiefs, Iran is still in school.

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[Flame Thrower]

Quit your yapping. It's Iranians themselves who are already feed up with their theocracy! Would you want to be ruled by an incompetent self-ordained personal secretary of All@h? Iranians are having hardships and they felt their voices are not heard by All@'s annointed Persian ruler so they protest. What's wrong with that.

This kind of mindset is perfect to use people to destroy their own country....

Yes, Iraqi people were fedup with Saddam, US intervened and destroyed Iraq.

Yes, Lybian people were feddup with Gaddafi, US intervened and destroyed Lybia.

Yes, Syrian people were fedup with Assad....that's Free Syrian army and was born right or was it. Anyways if you go all the way back to 2011, international media will show the same. So US funded(provided arms) rebels openly. When SAA and FSA were weekend, ISIS was born destroying what left of Iraq and Syria, part of Marawi city and ISIS is looking to take Lybia. If it wasn't for Russia, ISIS would be live and rich by selling Iraq and Syrian oil. Lybia might have fallen by now.

Iranian people were fedup with Theocracy govt. So what's wrong when they revolt against their govt. Are you sure that this Iranian revolution is not funded, guided and benefited by foreign powers!?

Do you know that Russian revolution of 1917 was funded by Germany!? Alexei Brusilov's offence in 1916 had almost knocked out Austria Hungary from WW1. If it wasn't for the Russian revolution WW1 would have ended in long before saving atleast a million lives.

@asianobserve , if revolution in Iran is successful then atleast a million more will die in Chaos, we can kiss goodbye to NSTC and linking central asia via Iran. Oil price will hike to $100 per barrel.

 

[asianobserve]

This kind of mindset is perfect to use people to destroy their own country....

Yes, Iraqi people were fedup with Saddam, US intervened and destroyed Iraq.

Yes, Lybian people were feddup with Gaddafi, US intervened and destroyed Lybia.

Yes, Syrian people were fedup with Assad....that's Free Syrian army and was born right or was it. Anyways if you go all the way back to 2011, international media will show the same. So US funded(provided arms) rebels openly. When SAA and FSA were weekend, ISIS was born destroying what left of Iraq and Syria, part of Marawi city and ISIS is looking to take Lybia. If it wasn't for Russia, ISIS would be live and rich by selling Iraq and Syrian oil. Lybia might have fallen by now.

Iranian people were fedup with Theocracy govt. So what's wrong when they revolt against their govt. Are you sure that this Iranian revolution is not funded, guided and benefited by foreign powers!?

Do you know that Russian revolution of 1917 was funded by Germany!? Alexei Brusilov's offence in 1916 had almost knocked out Austria Hungary from WW1. If it wasn't for the Russian revolution WW1 would have ended in long before saving atleast a million lives.

These countries hardly needs any encouragement to kill each other...

@asianobserve , if revolution in Iran is successful then atleast a million more will die in Chaos, we can kiss goodbye to NSTC and linking central asia via Iran. Oil price will hike to $100 per barrel.

What can you do if that's what they like to do? Does these killings make it acceptable if you blame bogeyman America? Then go ahead that's your prerogative.

 

[bhramos]

Iran has been trying to act smart with India recently. They delayed an oil field agreement and other stuff and tried to play hardball. An Iran under foreign pressure is the only kind of Iran that will be amenable to cut deals with India, otherwise they will negotiate from a position of strength.

As long as the uprising doesn't result in a mass upheaval, these small threats to Iran's regime are welcome. The moment they face western pressure they run to the India-Russia-China camp for support.

Help them fight the Snake, before that snake comes to bite you.....
think about future loss if Iran falls.... see past when USSR fall in Afghan to jihadi scums.... that all the power pakis got to fight Soviets in Afghan turned to Kashmir & India.... this will repeat again... you need to support the men who is fighting the evil powers, or else there will be none to save you when evil powers come to get you....... dont fall for US democracy trap... the US uses everyone as tissue paper......

 

[Haldiram]

Help them fight the Snake, before that snake comes to bite you.....
think about future loss if Iran falls.... see past when USSR fall in Afghan to jihadi scums.... that all the power pakis got to fight Soviets in Afghan turned to Kashmir & India.... this will repeat again... you need to support the men who is fighting the evil powers, or else there will be none to save you when evil powers come to get you....... dont fall for US democracy trap... the US uses everyone as tissue paper......

It's for Iran to understand that.

They've stalled us on the Farzad-B gas field. If they really care about their survival, they can lend the gas field to India immediately and India will help. If a nation under threat doesn't care about reaching out to us, there is no need for us to reach out to anyone for free. Nothing is free in international politics.

Iran is no great ally of India. It's a myth that has been cultivated by the diplomatic corps. "Historic ties". What ties? Nadir Shah came and messed India. Iran even offered free oil to Pakistan during 1965 war. The bonhomie between India and Iran is a very recent and very artificial thing. It's purely conditional and reciprocal. Recently, the Khomeni even made a plea for Kashmir's independence. We have been ignoring their antecedents for a while now. Let them face the heat.

When the US sanctioned Iran prior to the nuclear deal, the biggest beneficiary was India, because we got subsidized oil from an economically deprived Iran. On the surface it would appear that we stood up for Iran, but we don't care about either side. The same thing ought to happen now.

We gotta squeeze all the oil outta Khomeni's tits.

Gas-starved India risks losing a convenient source as talks with Iran prolong

Link : http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/hopes-fade-for-farzad-b-gas-field/article19982064.ece

As India and Iran engage in a blame game, the fate of the multi-billion dollar Farzad-B gas field contract that New Delhi has been pursuing with Tehran since 2009, seems doomed. Iran accuses India of inflexibility, while India charges Iran with “changing goal posts” and adopting “delay tactics” in an attempt at negotiating a more favourable deal.

But both sides agree that the future of the contract is uncertain. “If they are saying that we are being inflexible, then we have to wholeheartedly refute this,” a senior official in the Petroleum Ministry told The Hindu. “Due to changing goal posts and delay tactics employed by Iran, we are in a situation where the deal is uncertain.”

The impasse over the deal has affected the oil trade, with India recently reducing its crude oil purchases from Iran (down 30-40% from a year ago). Iran, in retaliation, slashed the number of days of credit offered to Indian companies from 90 to 60 days. Unofficial estimates peg Iranian oil as accounting for 15-20% of India’s total oil imports.

 

[delbruky]

Iran has been trying to act smart with India recently. They delayed an oil field agreement and other stuff and tried to play hardball. An Iran under foreign pressure is the only kind of Iran that will be amenable to cut deals with India, otherwise they will negotiate from a position of strength.

As long as the uprising doesn't result in a mass upheaval, these small threats to Iran's regime are welcome. The moment they face western pressure they run to the India-Russia-China camp for support.

Absolutely, an Iran under a liberal regime like that of the Shah (not amit shah ;~p) is very crucial for India to get access to Eurasia thus enhancing the prospects of INSTC and defeating the string of pearls strategy. The Bottom line is that Iran should be brought OUT of the Russian sphere. Russia-Khomeini collusion is dangerous for both India and Afghanistan....... our best friend isn't that best friend anymore.....need I say more.
Russis are totally high on Chine-Pak coolaid Imagine the Aholicness of russis they would support the chinese OBOR rather than INSTC that connects Russia to indian ocean directly and faster. So much for 17 years for putin regime.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Absolutely, an Iran under a liberal regime like that of the Shah (not amit shah ;~p) is very crucial for India to get access to Eurasia thus enhancing the prospects of INSTC and defeating the string of pearls strategy. The Bottom line is that Iran should be brought OUT of the Russian sphere. Russia-Khomeini collusion is dangerous for both India and Afghanistan....... our best friend isn't that best friend anymore.....need I say more.
Russis are totally high on Chine-Pak coolaid Imagine the Aholicness of russis they would support the chinese OBOR rather than INSTC that connects Russia to indian ocean directly and faster. So much for 17 years for putin regime.

Putin doesn't have a lot of choice - they know that the Chinese steal all their prototypes and reverse-engineer their weapons. The problem is that the Russian economy is very heavily dependent on China - Putin's embrace of fatty Xi is out of necessity, not love.

 

[delbruky]

Putin doesn't have a lot of choice - they know that the Chinese steal all their prototypes and reverse-engineer their weapons. The problem is that the Russian economy is very heavily dependent on China - Putin's embrace of fatty Xi is out of necessity, not love.

As far as choices are concerned, Russians are reaping exactly what they sowed. Seventeen years is a lot of time for a country under a single man's leadership of fix it's economy, it's branding and weaning itself away from oil and defense revenue dependency. After the 2nd WWW Germans and Japnese (both non english speaking) got back on their feet in less than half that time.

Except AK47, Can you name five Russian brands that impact your everyday life? be it food, banking, education, IT, medicine, transportation??................................ZILCH. It well know that Russia has all these industries but they still can't sell, their marketing is bad, their services are pathetic. Hence the reason why chin-pak ass licking starts.

While Germans integrated themselves and created a successful social-economic union the erstwhile USSR is still fragmenting and losing its old trusted allies by their utter skulduggery. Bombast aside PUTEEE is an utter failure.

 

[Haldiram]

Absolutely, an Iran under a liberal regime like that of the Shah (not amit shah ;~p) is very crucial for India to get access to Eurasia thus enhancing the prospects of INSTC and defeating the string of pearls strategy. The Bottom line is that Iran should be brought OUT of the Russian sphere. Russia-Khomeini collusion is dangerous for both India and Afghanistan....... our best friend isn't that best friend anymore.....need I say more.
Russis are totally high on Chine-Pak coolaid Imagine the Aholicness of russis they would support the chinese OBOR rather than INSTC that connects Russia to indian ocean directly and faster. So much for 17 years for putin regime.

The contenders (aka bargaining chips) Iran is using for the gas field is Russia and China. A country like Russia which already has a lot of oil is bidding on Iranian oil to get more oil.

The US will be in a tricky spot. Not that they love India, but the alternatives are in direct contravention of their interests. Letting Russia/China get an economic and military consolidation in Iran, over and above the strategic alliance they forged means allowing the NATO forces in Afghanistan to be encircled from the back.

Even if the US manages to pull off a silent coup in Iran and plant a pro-US puppet, the only candidate for them to sell Iranian oil is India. Who else is going to buy?

ONGC is also exploring oil fields in Russia. They brought India in to prevent Chinese hegemony. China has already secured a 50 year contract for Russian oil.

If we can get the Iran oil field, we can use that experience to set up our own rigs in Myanmar and Vietnam where oil has been discovered, and we won't have to rely on Islamic nations for our oil. Iran knows that for India, it's more than just oil, so they're playing hardball. They're hoping we will pay more than market rates for the energy security that it provides us.

Let the US cause attrition to them. They will come running to us.

 

[delbruky]

The contenders (aka bargaining chips) Iran is using for the gas field is Russia and China. A country like Russia which already has a lot of oil is bidding on Iranian oil to get more oil.

The US will be in a tricky spot. Not that they love India, but the alternatives are in direct contravention of their interests. Letting Russia/China get an economic and military consolidation in Iran, over and above the strategic alliance they forged means allowing the NATO forces in Afghanistan to be encircled from the back.

Even if the US manages to pull off a silent coup in Iran and plant a pro-US puppet, the only candidate for them to sell Iranian oil is India. Who else is going to buy?

ONGC is also exploring oil fields in Russia. They brought India in to prevent Chinese hegemony. China has already secured a 50 year contract for Russian oil.

If we can get the Iran oil field, we can use that experience to set up our own rigs in Myanmar and Vietnam where oil has been discovered, and we won't have to rely on Islamic nations for our oil. Iran knows that for India, it's more than just oil, so they're playing hardball. They're hoping we will pay more than market rates for the energy security that it provides us.

Let the US cause attrition to them. They will come running to us.

India Iran negotiations ended in a deadlock, Indian consortium's offer was rejected, India has has moved on to exploring other oil sources, Israel for example,. https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...m-of-indian-oil-psus/articleshow/62278831.cms
As far as South east asian oil is concerned, correct me if I am wrong but I think It's all exploratory there are no rigs installed and no extraction is taking place with Indian Involvement.
As far as Indian investment in Roos is concerned, it's a TIT-FOR-TAT investment. The amount of investment India make in Russian Far east is Equivalent to The investment made by Rosneft in purchasing Essar oil assets.

 

[Haldiram]

India Iran negotiations ended in a deadlock, Indian consortium's offer was rejected, India has has moved on to exploring other oil sources, Israel for example,.

Yes, we had to look for far flung oil beds because the one that was nearest to us, Iran, was not made available to us due to Iran's hardball tactics.

As far as South east asian oil is concerned, correct me if I am wrong but I think It's all exploratory there are no rigs installed and no extraction is taking place with Indian Involvement.

There was a discovery of oil off the Myanmar coast. Recently they've discovered oil in Vietnam's side of 'south China sea'.

Woodside makes third gas discovery offshore Myanmar

Vietnam renews India oil deal in tense South China Sea

 

[bhramos]

old pic, but answer is here.............

 

[bhramos]

This is what Happening As We Speak

 

[bhramos]

I've seen this before. But perhaps their 5 year plan didn't work out as Iraq and Afghanistan took a lot of time.

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that is not 5 year plan.... but plan till US want oil & Drugs ..........

 

[delbruky]

This is what Happening As We Speak

They deserve that and much more, they themselves are wolves in sheep skin. Very Egotistic and Very Reactive

 

[bhramos]

They deserve that and much more, they themselves are wolves in sheep skin. Very Egotistic and Very Reactive

yeah i know.........................

 

[delbruky]

yeah i know.........................

That oil tanker named "Sanchi" carrying Iranian oil for NK (I suppose) burning incident off shanghai coast with all 32 crew members dead, is a massive sabotage. Looks like a stealth submarine strike.

 

[bhramos]

Yeeeah, About That Bomb, Is It Developed Yet?