Iranian Midget Sub Threat

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  1. lookieloo

    lookieloo Regular Member

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    There's no mystery to solving this problem, and it doesn't have to involve the needlessly risky hunting-down of every submarine. In the event of conflict, keep shipping/naval-assets out of Iran's reach (in harbor or underway in open water) and destroy support-facilities/bases for these slow, tiny, short-legged boats, The survivors will be all but inoperable within a matter of weeks.
     
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    What if Iran builds protected submarine pens (U-boot bunker)as the Germans did in France?
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    You've gotta be kidding. What was a daunting challenge during WWII would be child's-play with today's systems. Consolidating their submarines/support-infrastructure in hardened pens would be an absolute dream for US military planners.
     
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    Well, here's the thing. There are military planners and there are military decision makers. If US has not used bunker busters to get at Iran's nukes, why would we think they would be used against Iran's little subs?

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    I'm not following your line of reasoning. Iran hasn't built any pens, yet you seem to already be making assumptions about their design and which weapons would be required to destroy them. You also seem to be equating MOP-usage with nukes, and that's just silly. Lets just assume Iran managed to case these things in 200+ ft of concrete; that still leaves plenty of options that weren't available vs the Germans. Your comparison remains invalid.

    Putting it Barney-style: For 2nd-tier opponents vs the US, fixed/static position = dead position.
     
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    I don't follow your alleged reasoning either, even if you had omitted the jargon and the breezy tone. I'll just let my posts on the subject stand.
     
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    what happened to our midget purchase also LPD
     
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    When did we want to get midget subs? Any links?
     
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    we released some rfp or some thing i dont remember
     
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    There is a RFP for LPDs, but never heard of one for a midget sub. AFAIK only sub RFP out is for P75I, and it's gonna be bigger than the Scorpenes.

     
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    High Altitude Anti-Submarine Warfare (HAASW)
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    The missions of IN midget subs would be special operations, I believe. Iranian subs have an anti-shipping role.
     
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