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I think the media has to stop using the phrase "IPLs Pak snub". Its just creating more hysteria.
 

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I don't think the IPL has done anything wrong. They allowed the Pakistani players to participate in the auction as per their audience's demands of seeing the best players in the world duke it out. The reason no team picked them up was because the government was being iffy with the granting of visas and probably warned the teams in advance. Obviously no team is going to spend million$ only to find out that the player can't even enter the country.

This has far more to do with the decision making in the government quarters than anything else. Lalit Modi will of course attract a lot of bad press, but he is powerless against the government.

neo29: Calling Pakistani players worthless equates to intellectual dishonesty. Their stats speak for themselves.
No takers for Pakistan cricketers in IPL-III - Yahoo! India News

But the PCB chief said there weren't any visa issues with any of the 11 Pakistani cricketers and they had the clearance to travel to India. "We were given permission to travel to India from our foreign office and the ministry.

All 11 Pakistani players in the IPL auction list had their papers ready and the sports minister in India was very kind to expedite things to ensure they were not troubled. I really don't know what went wrong, but it is hurting.
 

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Pakistan bats men are total mugs these days and their batting line up can be run over by any bowling from the T10 gully cricket.Pak bowlers are probably the only saving grace and they had plenty of competition from others for those few IPL slots......Its a sensible decision from the league team owners.

Royal challengers have splashed some big money hopefully it will be worth when the season starts.
 

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IPL called them here, their hopes were high with backroom chatter about big money contracts, and then they send them home humiliated, amazing i am sure its the sort of stuff our women watch in tv serials.

bad show on the IPL team owners part, should have made things clear beforehand, its not good to insult people like this in our culture, people have strong memory with these events. IPL is a commercial event and Pakistan and Pakistani people are a market.
 

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see one more snub to cricketers by ther own brothers

IPL snub fallout: Zaheer Abbas asks for Hockey WC boycott :: Samay Live
Islamabad: Snubbed in the IPL 3 auction, Former Pakistan Cricketer Zaheer Abbas asked hockey players to boycott Hockey World Cup to be played in Delhi from last week of February.

Pak team will take part in hockey World Cup: PHF - Top Stories - FIH World Cup - Events & Tournaments - Sports - The Times of India
They isolating them self from the rest of world :twizt:
 

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India says it plays fair, gave visas to Pak players
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New Delhi: Rejecting Pakistan's suspicions about New Delhi's hand in the absence of Pakistani cricketers from the Indian Premier League (IPL), India on Thursday asked Pakistan to introspect on the "reasons which have put a strain on bilateral ties" and clarified that 17 Pakistani players had been given visas.

"Blaming the government for the absence of Pakistani players from the next edition of IPL is unfortunate," the External Affairs Ministry said in a statement in New Delhi.

"Pakistan should introspect on the reasons which have put a strain on relations between India and Pakistan, and have adversely impacted on peace, stability and prosperity in the region," the Ministry said.

The Government also rebutted reports about Pakistani players not getting Indian visas. "Such apprehension is completely misplaced," the Ministry said.

The Ministry clarified that 17 Pakistani cricketers were issued Indian visas at very short notice in December 2009 and January this year to participate in IPL 2010.

"Two visas were issued in Islamabad, while three were issued in Wellington (New Zealand) and 12 in Sydney (Australia), where the concerned Pakistani cricketers had applied while touring New Zealand and Australia, respectively," the Ministry said.

Based on a request from the Pakistan Cricket Board to the High Commission of India in Islamabad, the Ministry said it facilitated necessary clearances from other ministries in India.

As Pakistan escalated rhetoric over the perceived snub to Pakistani cricketers, External Affairs Minister SM Krishna said: "(The) government has nothing to do with IPL, on selection of players and various exercises that are connected with it.

"So, Pakistan will have to draw a line between where government of India is connected and where government of India is an actor," he told reporters when asked about the strong words used by Pakistani leaders linking New Delhi to the non-selection of Pakistani cricketers by IPL team owners.

Krishna was responding to a question on Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Malik's remarks that the manner in which the Pakistani players were "insulted" showed that India was not serious about the peace process.

Krishna's clarification came a day after Pakistan's National Assembly Speaker Fehmida Mirza announced in the National Assembly the decision not to send any parliamentary delegation to India to protest the "treatment meted out" to the country's cricketers in the IPL tournament.

Furious over the surprise rejection of Pakistani cricketers, Malik told some TV channels in Pakistan: "India or any other country that does not give respect to Pakistan will be treated the same way by us.

"If there is a desire to improve Indo-Pakistan friendship, respect should be given to Pakistani sportspersons," Malik said.
 

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Protests in Pakistan on IPL snub

Pakistani civil society groups and political and religious parties on Thursday protested the perceived snub of the country's cricketers in the auction for the lucrative Indian Premier League [ Images ] tournament in India, even as an association of cable television operators said they would boycott its broadcast.

Members of a civil society group burnt effigies of IPL Commissioner Lalit Modi [ Images ] outside the Press Club in the eastern city of Lahore [ Images ].

Modi has earned the ire of political leaders and Pakistan Cricket Board chief Ejaz Butt, who has accused him of "betraying" the Pakistani players.

The Cable Operators Association of Pakistan said, it would boycott all matches of the third edition of IPL.

The members of the association said their networks would not air any channel that beams the IPL matches.

Addressing a news conference in the Lahore Press Club, CAP president Jabbar Ahmed Khan said his group had condemned the attitude of the organisers of IPL.

The decision to boycott the Indian Premier League matches was made in a meeting of CAP and will be implemented across the country, he said.

Even leaders of religious parties, which do not usually comment on sports activities, joined the fray on Thursday.

Hardline Jamaat-e-Islami chief Munawar Hasan said, "Pakistanis must boycott IPL matches on television, ban the use of Indian products and stop watching Indian films featuring Bollywood stars, who are IPL franchisees, till an official apology is received from the Indian government and the IPL organisers."

The opposition Paskistan Muslim League-Q said the rejection of the Pakistani players in the IPL auction had exposed anti-Pakistan feelings in India.

"No matter how much the Indians blow their trumpet about being liberal, educated and cultured people, this act has only revealed their anti-Pakistan intentions," senior PML-Q leader Chaudhry Pervez Elahi said.

Moonis Elahi, another PML-Q leader, said the Pakistan government, PCB and Pakistani cricketers should open their eyes and stop compromising the country's prestige for "personal and selfish gains."

After the main opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N said on Wednesday that its members would boycott official visits to India as a mark of protest over the perceived IPL snub, National Assembly Speaker Fehmida Mirza announced that no parliamentary delegations would be sent to the neighbouring country.

Twenty20 [ Images ] champions Pakistan were stunned after none of the country's 11 players were signed up during the IPL auction earlier this week.

The Pakistan Cricket Board reacted with anger and disappointment, with Chairman Ijaz Butt saying he was "highly disappointed" by the manner in which his players were treated.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik [ Images ] was particularly scathing in his criticism of the treatment meted out to Pakistani players, saying India should apologise and send a delegation to take the cricketers from Pakistan.
Looks like Honor and Dignity of Pakistanis is hurt by non-selection of Pakistani cricketers into IPL by private clubs that they took to protests. Sure pakistani folks are very prickly guys. Some body should remind them that these protesting buggers have much better things to do like protesting Taliban. Do they have balls to do so?? I don't think so. No wonder they found themselves in this precarious situation.
 

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Look! who is talking about Mafia, a person who took daughter of a Mafia don (Dawood Ibrahim) into his family. What a bunch of jokers and whiners these guys are. Javed Miandad can take a hike and eat the humble pie for all I care for his verbal diarrhea.

The IPL is becoming a big mafia: Miandad

Miffed at the Indian Premier League's [ Images ] snub of Pakistan players, Javed Miandad [ Images ] says the cash-rich Twenty20 [ Images ] competition is turning out to be 'a big mafia'.

"The Indian Premier League is becoming a big mafia that wants to control world cricket; it is not only endangering the existence of the International Cricket Council [ Images ], but also the rest of the cricketing nations.

"It is my message to all cricket boards around the world that the IPL is the biggest danger for their future; if it is not controlled timely it will engulf all boards.

"India is trying to control the world of cricket through the IPL and wants to become a super power; India is trying it and India is doing it," the Pakistan cricket icon told rediff.com in an exclusive interview, shortly after the players' auction for the third edition of the IPL in Mumbai [ Images ] on Tuesday.

His reasoning is that "a number of players have refused to play for their own countries because they can earn more money overnight than they could throughout their careers".

Saying the players are receiving money more than they are worth, he urged the ICC [ Images ] to form rules to curb the League's expansion.

"I can smell that everyone will have a problem in future. A time will come when there will be no player available to play for his country. Under such circumstances the ICC should form rules to control the IPL. At the moment the IPL is doing what it wants and no one is there to interfere. Time is not far when, due to the IPL, the ICC and world cricket boards will be finished."

Asked whether the IPL is a threat to Indian cricket itself, Miandad replied: "Not at all; the IPL will help Indians only, but it will weaken the rest of the teams. India will get the best players of the world and weaken other teams."

Giving an example, he said, "In the past India had better teams than the current Dhoni-led one, but, more often than not, they were defeated. The reason was that other teams were stronger than India. Due to the IPL, superstars like Shane Warne [ Images ] and Glenn McGrath [ Images ] retired from the Australian cricket team.

"They could easily play for another couple of years, but rushed to the IPL, as the amount was very attractive; so when the Indian team visited Australia [ Images ], who were without senior players like Warne and McGrath, it was easy for the Indians to control the opposing team."

Miandad was unhappy about the power an individual player enjoys at the moment and suggested that every player should be controlled by his own cricket board.

"Nothing should be individually done; if every individual player is allowed to make a decision, without any interference of his board, the situation would turn bad for all other boards. All boards should handle their own guys and it is unjust that every player individually negotiates his case with the IPL.

"All the boards should discuss these issues with the IPL, otherwise their future seems dark to me. I'm surprised and astonished how people are investing and how they are going to earn money; it is commercial cricket. The ICC should watch these things and interfere before it gets too worse to be controlled," he said.

He was critical of the latest format of the game, saying, "Twenty20 cricket is no cricket, but money-cricket; everybody knows that it is commercial cricket; the main cricket is moving towards destruction."

"It's okay to play a match or two; that's not a problem. But if there are 40-50 matches, where will the rest of the cricket go? Clearly, it is damaging Test and One-day cricket, and the quality is going down. People have started forgetting about One-day and Test cricket. Neither the bowlers nor batsmen can learn anything here," he said.

Comparing the IPL with Kerry Packer's World Series Cricket, he said, "When Kerry Packer came in, though he was doing it for a cause as his channel was ignored, it affected cricket all around the world; cricket game became mediocre. I see the same future for One-day and Test cricket due to the IPL."

So what does he have to say about Pakistan cricketers being snubbed by the IPL?

"It is another issue that Pakistani players were ignored and humiliated by the Indian Premier League. I am against the existence of the IPL; this is not an issue because Pakistani players were neglected or humiliated. That decision was biased and wrong.

"Cricket between India and Pakistan is better for relations between the two countries. Everyone says there is no politics in sport; so relations between the two countries should not come in the way of sports," he concluded.
 

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No takers for Pakistan cricketers in IPL-III - Yahoo! India News

But the PCB chief said there weren't any visa issues with any of the 11 Pakistani cricketers and they had the clearance to travel to India. "We were given permission to travel to India from our foreign office and the ministry.

All 11 Pakistani players in the IPL auction list had their papers ready and the sports minister in India was very kind to expedite things to ensure they were not troubled. I really don't know what went wrong, but it is hurting.
Nitesh, as per my knowledge (casually following this story), the GoP released their players to play a while back. It is the GoI who has been dragging its feet over the visas since last year. Their statement today actually defies all the stories in the press over the past few months (I think BBC is very credible). None of the Pakistani cricketers as of now have visas to play in India. I think only Rana Naved ul Hassan was granted a visa to play cricket during the Champions T20 trophy as part of an English county team (either sussex or somerset) who obtained visas from the Indian embassy in the UK.

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There are absolutely no two sides to this coin, Pakistanis have been specifically kicked out of the ipl and so it has to be. This is an Indian domestic league with an international flavor and it is our wish of whom to plan and whom not to play and with the memories of 26/11 still running fresh it was best they were kept out, and I seriously doubt majority of Indians wanted to see them anyways. Visa issue is just an excuse at a time when other sports men/women, people in bollywood, politicians, journalists from Pakistan have been granted visas without any issues.
There was no public petition to disbar Pakistani cricketers from participating in the IPL. In fact after Pakistan won the T20 WC there was an increased interest as per the IPL teams. The government despite their ridiculous statements seem to be responsible here.

Now here's the thing, if the GoI didn't want Pakistani players to participate in the IPL, they should have merely instituted a policy dictating that no Pakistani player will be allowed to play/earn money in India as long as XYZ ( the 26/11 culprits are sentenced or whatever). The GoI holds the right to do something like this and as harsh as it is people would have understood. But they didn't do this, instead they kept on tossing around this silly visa issue and kept dangling the carrot again and again. This is extremely unprofessional and petty behavior which leaves a bad taste in people's mouths thereby compromising the sympathy the world has toward India. It has also shown itself to be passive aggressive, subversive and childish. Even now when its obviously clear what has happened there is nobody there to shoulder the responsibility for the decision. They're all running around pointing the finger at each other like little children... "it wasn't us, it was them".... "no it wasn't! it was someone else" etc. This sort of behavior, (in addition to the lying) compromises the credibility of a nation's establishment.

Also, notwithstanding the seriousness of the 26/11 attacks or Pakistan's role in terrorism, there's something to be said about the promotion of apartheid; which is what this is.
 

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Guys please see the video in post 45 and please comment that these fasadis should be allowed or not
 

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"Guys please see the video in post 45 and please comment that these fasadis should be allowed or not"


its their usual rant
whenever they find themselves in a corner, they play the "evil hindu" card against india

they also play a "true muslim" card against all others on their basis of perceived victimisation, as if they are the only "true"muslims in the universe (muslims in other countries are kufar for them)

they should be treated as south africa was treated during apartheid policy until they stop exporting their favorite product "IT"
 

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Miandad and the D gang may have fixed some pak players for betting. their business is hit big time. obviously they will bark.

IPL belongs to india, we started it and we run it. pakistan plays naughty child with us behind the scenes and wants to do business, profit and enjoy all the indian stuff. how can we allow this ???

all those indians missing pak players, have you forgotten everything till 26/11 ?? dont justify saying politics and sports should not clash. in pakistan's case such a threshold has been crossed long time back. should we profit a country and its people who are hell bent on spreading terrorism in our country and killing our people????

IPL is just the start, we must discourage pakistani musicians and other workers who benefit from india. if at all its a global event like World Cup then we must entertain them for international community. Till pakistan stops supporting and eliminating groups targetting india, forget business with them. it will be their loss big time and wont matter to us. let them feel the pinch.
 

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Chill out guys the Pakistanis can take all the protest they wnat we should not care a rats ass about it :D
 

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Nitesh, as per my knowledge (casually following this story), the GoP released their players to play a while back. It is the GoI who has been dragging its feet over the visas since last year. Their statement today actually defies all the stories in the press over the past few months (I think BBC is very credible). None of the Pakistani cricketers as of now have visas to play in India. I think only Rana Naved ul Hassan was granted a visa to play cricket during the Champions T20 trophy as part of an English county team (either sussex or somerset) who obtained visas from the Indian embassy in the UK.
Energon,

GOI has gone out of their way in issuing Visa to the Pakistani Cricket players for the IPL.

The ministry clarified that 17 Pakistani cricketers were issued requisite Indian visas at very short notice in December 2009 and January this year to participate in IPL 2010.

"Two visas were issued in Islamabad, while three were issued in Wellington (New Zealand) and twelve in Sydney (Australia), where the concerned Pakistani cricketers had applied while touring New Zealand and Australia, respectively," the ministry said.

Based on a request from the Pakistan Cricket Board to High Commission of India in Islamabad, the ministry said it facilitated necessary clearances from other ministries in India.
The link is here
 

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There was no public petition to disbar Pakistani cricketers from participating in the IPL. In fact after Pakistan won the T20 WC there was an increased interest as per the IPL teams. The government despite their ridiculous statements seem to be responsible here.

Now here's the thing, if the GoI didn't want Pakistani players to participate in the IPL, they should have merely instituted a policy dictating that no Pakistani player will be allowed to play/earn money in India as long as XYZ ( the 26/11 culprits are sentenced or whatever). The GoI holds the right to do something like this and as harsh as it is people would have understood. But they didn't do this, instead they kept on tossing around this silly visa issue and kept dangling the carrot again and again. This is extremely unprofessional and petty behavior which leaves a bad taste in people's mouths thereby compromising the sympathy the world has toward India. It has also shown itself to be passive aggressive, subversive and childish. Even now when its obviously clear what has happened there is nobody there to shoulder the responsibility for the decision. They're all running around pointing the finger at each other like little children... "it wasn't us, it was them".... "no it wasn't! it was someone else" etc. This sort of behavior, (in addition to the lying) compromises the credibility of a nation's establishment.

Also, notwithstanding the seriousness of the 26/11 attacks or Pakistan's role in terrorism, there's something to be said about the promotion of apartheid; which is what this is.

yes and that is the issue, we have a government which is not sure of what way to take and without confronting issues head on they tend to do duck underneath and believe the problem will be a goner which only helps in creating a mess out of it, and this is the precise attitude on display when no one comes forth to take the responsibility, sports minister and the external affairs minister are behaving as if they are the angels and in no way do i agree with the way the things got handled right from allowing these players to the auction process to no one taking the responsibility. the only one person who takes a stand in this government is chidambaram who remains very clear of what needs to be done, the rest of the folks generally remain clueless and two prime examples are the external affairs minister and the raksha mantri.

it is absolutely clear the GoI is behind this because an organizing committee which has just one interest of making money would give a damn to indo-pak relations, and would try and sell the product in as many countries as possible to jack up their revenues, last year they took a bangladeshi player at an exuberant price which in no way justifies the amount paid, but just to appeal to that corner of south asia they didn’t mind paying that amount, so if these people had a go ahead i have no doubt in my mind that these players would have not been taken over.

the GoI issues a statement suggesting that pakistan needs to reflect into issues why peace is illusive to this part of the region, yes it is in part in reference to the visit of sect of defence, US, but was also an attempt to put a point across on ipl.

having said all that i have as i said in the last post, when that dilly dally was happening in the first place on issuing of the visa a month or two back the pressure of allowing the pak players in for the auction came from the media who out of no where started getting all these pakistan players to do talk shows for them and it was only then that these players were allowed in for the auction process but then as has been the case, media can never be the culprit, and well their naive behaviour will not be talked about or shown on tv screens.

discrimination, not by a mile least we talk about apartheid. majority of the indians remain very angry of what happened on 26/11 and the attitude of the GoP and pakistanis post this incident, who more or less remain non comitial on taking the court proceedings to logical conclusion, which is being used as a diplomatic tool to press its points upon the GoI with literal blackmails issued and with the likes of hafess sayeed’s still roaming the streets scout free, and with the conspiracy theorists amongst the pakistani society who have a large following suggesting that this incident was carried by the indians themselves. there are public sentiments that a democratic setup needs to take into consideration or it is very well a good bye to them. with that kind of anger amongst the general public which has very valid reasons to it, and with this being an indian league it is but logical to keep these players out and the video posted by nitesh just goes on to show how deeply racists the average pakistanis remain towards a hindu india, so that stench of discrimination comes from somewhere else.
 

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Pakistani players are unreliable. With the growing number of ceasefire violations at our borders, situations may come up where either they're not willing to send their players or we're not willing to grant visas. Either way, the franchisees who plan team rosters with them, will be scre wed. So they would rather choose other players.

They should be grateful we've retaliated to their terror-based foreign-policy in a non-violent manner, while inflicting the same amount of economic damage.
 

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I do not understand why is the media and other people making such a big noise. Is there a reservation system that we have to take so many Pakistani players in IPL. India does not have to prove anything by taking Pakistani players in the IPL.

As per the media and other so called experts does the onus of normalisisng relations lie only with us, do we always have to gring and bear all that is pouring across Pakistan. On one hand state sponsored infiltration is increasing, routing of fake currency through Pakistan is on the rise, the trial of 26/11 accused is flundering and all the media is whining about not selecting players from across the border.

What about the other 40 players who did not get selected, have they also been snubbed. If a person applies for a job and his application is rejected then is he being snubbed by the organisation. It is time we woke up and get over this.
 

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keep watching !!! Dawood & co will organize a parallel to IPL in UAE, funded by cash rich sheikhs!!!!
 

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