Invisible tanks could be on battlefield

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  1. A.V.

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    Armoured vehicles will use a new technology known as "e-camouflage" which deploys a form "electronic ink" to render a vehicle "invisible".
    Highly sophisticated electronic sensors attached to the tank's hull will project images of the surrounding environment back onto the outside of the vehicle enabling it to merge into the landscape and evade attack.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ould-be-on-battlefield-within-five-years.html
     
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    Interesting.

    What will be the cost is what will matter.
     
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    This is what the tank would do as per a forum post that I visited!
     
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    LOL sir that would be distraction enough for the tank crew to come out of invisibility
     
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    This was in the works before and the entirety of the plan was conceived after James Bond: Die Another Day. I guess.

    Looks like they got the concept working and perhaps will have a prototype ready by 2015. Cost would be an issue, but more importantly I would say maintenance would be the bigger problem.
     
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    Yeah and that tank would probably cost more than an F-22. The way I see it, technology for defense is becoming too expensive. I don't know what the hell the planner is thinking behind this programme, but it would be better if he can put this application on counter-terrorist units and individual soldiers---like the Predator movie. That would be hell lot better than making a tank that costs more than 8 F-16s.

    Must think more cost effective strategy like the Chinese. Instead of wasting billions on just matching the number of supercarriers that US can throw at them, they came up with an ingenious plan of using much-cheaper missiles. Now how much the precision of that missile is in reality, I don't think the US would want to test, even if they can take some estimations since even 1 carrier out means billions of dollars down and at least 3000-5000 people dead.

    Having massive amounts of missiles does really kinda deter one's enemy---even if it is just for threat sakes.
     
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    Invisible tanks could be on battlefield within five years

    Armoured vehicles will use a new technology known as "e-camouflage" which deploys a form "electronic ink" to render a vehicle "invisible".
    Highly sophisticated electronic sensors attached to the tank's hull will project images of the surrounding environment back onto the outside of the vehicle enabling it to merge into the landscape and evade attack.
    The electronic camouflage will enable the vehicle to blend into the surrounding countryside in much the same way that a squid uses ink to help as a disguise.
    Unlike conventional forms of camouflage, the images on the hull would change in concert with the changing environment always insuring that the vehicle remains disguised.
    In Helmand, for example, all armoured vehicle have desert sand coloured camouflage, which is of little use in the "Green Zone", an area of cultivation where crops are grown and the Taliban often hide.

    Up until recently such concepts were thought to be the stuff of science fiction but scientists at the defence company BAE Systems now believe battlefield "invisibility" will soon become science fact.
    Scientists at the BAE hope the new technology will be available to use with the British Army fighting in Southern Afghanistan and in future conflicts.
    The concept was developed as part of the Future Protected Vehicle programme, which scientists believe, will transform the way in which future conflicts will be fought.
    The programme is based around seven different military vehicles, both manned and unmanned, which will be equipped with a wide variety of lethal and none lethal weapons.
    The unmanned vehicles or battlefield robots will be able to conduct dangerous missions in hostile areas, clear minefields and extract wounded troops under fire.
    The vehicles include:
    * Pointer: an agile robot which can take over dirty, dull or dangerous jobs, such as forward observation and mine clearance.
    * Bearer: a modular platform which can carry a range of mission payloads, such as protected mobility, air defence and ambulance;
    * Wraith: a low signature scout vehicle;
    * Safeguard: an ultra-utility infantry carrier or command & control centre;
    * Charger: a highly lethal and survivable reconfigurable attack vehicle;
    * Raider: a remotely or autonomously controlled unmanned recce and skirmishing platform – similar in design to the "Batmobile"
    * Atlas: a convoy system which removes the driver from harm's way.
    BAE's Future vehicle project is, in part, a reaction to the Ministry of Defence's (MoD) 'Capability Vision' for armoured vehicles, designed to spur development along different paths from the MoD's previous research.
    Commanders are aiming for a prototype within four years and an experimental operational capacity by 2013.
    The brief is for a lightweight vehicle, weighing 30 tonnes, powered by a hybrid electric drive, with the same effectiveness and survivability of a current main battle tank.
    The UK's current tank, the Challenger 2, weighs 62.5 tonnes, and runs a 1,200hp V12 diesel engine.
    Britain's current fleet of armoured vehicles are also close to approaching the end of their service life and armoured vehicles designed specifically for use in Helmand, such as the hugely successful Mastiff, may be inappropriate for use in other operational theatres.
    Scientists at BAE are also looking at a number of revolution battlefield inventions which will increase troop protection as well as making the vehicles more lethal.
    One concept being developed is to develop technologies, which will cut the use of fuel on the battlefield. In Afghanistan, the cost of fuel is 50 times that of the pump price.
    All fuel currently used by NATO troops comes in via road convoys which are often attacked by insurgents which are responsible for 80 per cent of US casualties.
    Scientists are close to developing a form of transparent armour - much tougher than bullet proof glass – which could be used in turrets of on the sides of armoured vehicles which would improve the situational awareness of troops inside.
    Also being developed is a technology known as "biometric integration which uses advanced algorhythms to analyse crowds and to search for potential threats from suicide bombers by analyzing suspicious behavior in groups or individuals.
    Electronic scanners would search for suspicious behavior, inappropriate clothing or individuals on wanted lists who can be identified through facial or iris recognition.
    The information would then be displayed on screen within vehicle or handheld vehicles carried by dismounted troops.
    Hisham Awad, the head of the Future Protected Vehicle project said: "The trick here is to use machines to do what they are best at (and humans are not) - ploughing very quickly through dull, repetitive data to strip out the overwhelming bulk which is of no use and would take a long time and enormous human resources to process.
    "Then you can quickly bring human intelligence to bear where it excels - making life-or-death decisions based on 'real time' information on suspicious activity flagged up by the machines."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ould-be-on-battlefield-within-five-years.html
     
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    I already thought that the OLED technology could be used for such things but ink!! That is so radical and i am not surprised its the Brits who come up with these.
     
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    I have heard reports that British and American are also working on invisibility cloak for its soldiers, though I can't back it up, saw this on Discovery Channel once, quite some time back.
     
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    There are lot of concepts that are coming for next generation tanks on the field. Another main concept apart from invisibility is the use of non-projectile weapons i.e. use of sound waves and vacuum power to create the destructive force of a tank shell. This is done in such a way that the environment is not destroyed of the shell's explosion and cause pollution.

    IMO this should be done faster than invisible tanks since the muzzle sparks and direction of sounds would make all that invisible ink useless as enemies could simply use sound detectors and thermal imaging to view these invisible tanks. On the other hand, powerful sound waves and vacuum blasts are a more destructive force without actually doing severe damage to the environment.



    Check this out. Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) is going to be the future of tank ammo.
     
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    Does this hide Heat signature too and the dust it raises while on the move. This would be good for if applied to snipers/soldiers, will help them blend in.
     
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    will it also have a " tramp stamp" as she has on her belly ? :D
     
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    how can it cannot be detected by infra-red camera mounted no the tank, or radar system of a plane . cant it be detected by it movement . please clarify
     
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    That is what I am wondering. The tank's engines will naturally give some heat signature for thermal images as the machinery will generate some amount of noticeable heat especially after firing shots which cannot be eliminated without using some sort of coolant hence adding weight. Then comes the prospect of radar-using ATGM carriers like NAMICA and foreign variants of this which will use radars to detect tank movement, forcing the tanks to be stealthy design as well as RAM.

    So in the end the concept is seemingly stupid for present technology as the world has moved beyond using visual cues for combat.
     
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    Just watched youtube and this is what i have made, looks like some sort of screen which project thermal image on surface .
     

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