Interference in Balochistan

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    Interference in Balochistan | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online



    Baloch nationalists have now shifted to London, operating there out of a flat where a prominent Baloch leader lives in self-imposed exile. This group is not only bringing out anti-Pakistan literature for distribution in the troubled province, but is also in contact with American and Indian diplomats. Members of the group travel to the USA, India and Oman, using a travel agent of Indian origin, who is paid by the Indian High Commission, according to a report appearing on Sunday in Nawa-i-Waqt. It seems that, not content with misusing its consulates in Afghanistan against Pakistan, India is bankrolling Baloch nationalists abroad, and keeping alive a movement which needs government action to stop it from spreading.

    There are two approaches for the government to take. The first is to give the Baloch their rights, and not restrict itself to cosmetic measures like the Aghaz-e-Huqooq-e-Balochistan package, which incidentally has not yet been put into effect, or holding Cabinet meetings in Quetta, is not enough. Besides, mere reliance on the employment opportunities offered by the Army, of which COAS General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani made an announcement on Saturday, will not do. If there is no cause for complaint, the separatists will have no arguments. Also, this lack of popular support will lead foreign powers to lose interest in them. At the moment, it should not be forgotten that India and the USA are alert to any way they can destabilise Pakistan, but they are only exploiting opportunities that we have created by our own mistakes.

    The second is the vigorous diplomatic campaign that the High Commission in London should launch, focusing on the undiplomatic activities of India in the UK, aimed against a friendly country which is helping the UK directly in its part of the war on terror. The Pakistan government should not only make sure that protests are lodged with the American and Indian governments, but also that other governments are brought up to date on the conspiracy against Pakistan which they are sponsoring. It should also not lose sight of the fact that true friends do not, like the USA, attempt to break it up.
     
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    ANP wants Balochistan division | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

    ANP wants Balochistan division

    PESHAWAR - Provincial President of Awami National Party Senator Afrasiab Khattak on Tuesday said that a separate province of Southern Pakhtunkhwa for the Pakhtuns living in Balochistan should be created, while representation to FATA should be given in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly, which he termed as need of the hour.

    ‘Pakhtuns across the country is one nation and nobody can divide them through their separate geographical positions’, he said. He stated this addressing a meeting of Awami National Party FATA chapter. Provincial Vice President of ANP Latif Afridi Advocate and provincial spokesman ANP Arbab Tahir Khalil were present on the occasion. He said that in order to eliminate terrorist hideouts in FATA and bring everlasting peace there, government must impose political parties Act in FATA and should give them representation in KPK Assembly.

    He said that all political parties of the country should back FATA reforms for the larger interest of the country. Regarding Balochistan province, Afrasiab Khattak said that a separate province of South Pakhtunkhwa should be establish for the people of Balochistan saying that Pakhun is one nation and nobody could separate them through geographical and territorial disintegration.
    He said that in order to bring these reforms, soon consultative measures within the party would be taken.

    He also stressed the Federal government to fulfil their responsibilities regarding peace and tranquility in Tribal Areas.
    The meeting also discussed party organisational matters of various tribal agencies.
     
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    How I wish even part of what the Pakistanis claim about indian involvement in Baluchistan was true. Even if there is, then as usual the intel guys are not good enough as the Baluchis are not inflicting enough pain on the Pakistani state.
     
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    Article claims India and USA are acting together this seems improbable if it were true Baluchistan would have been liberated .
     
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    Wish we repaid u the favour in khalistan,ULFA,mao,nagaland,IOK,mezoram and other parts.... would make us really happy..............


    Dont throw stones at others when u live in a glass house urself.
     
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    Nope we are only wishing to repay the debt. ULFA has already exposed Pak involvement which actually harmed them. Kashmir, beat you can do is finance the stone pelters. Your per Gilani asked Rabbani to solve Baluchistan first before talking about Kashmir. Face the facts. You have lost Kashmir which was never yours anyway.
     
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    ULFA... we dont even know who the heck they are....

    Finance stone pelters? shytty story.... nobdy belives.............Baluchistan... almost solved............. worry abt the day we start arming maos,ulfa,iok and others........... u will feel the heat for real........... remember 84? tht was just a trailer of a movie tht benazir bhutto didnt agree on producing and gave u the names.
     
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    In the earlier post you named all the terror organizations and now you say you dont know. Typical denial mentality. I don't blame you. You didn't even know where Bin Laden was. The world does not believe your LIES. no matter how loudly you shout from te highest mountain. No one in the world believes your country.
     
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    I said we can help arm them... denial of what?

    Its depends upon ur ability to comprehend.
     
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    Denial of not knowing who ULFA is when they themselves have come out and said who funded and armed them.

    Nothing wrong with my ability to comprehend. It's you who chose to pretend not to understand. Just like how Mumbai 26/11 had nothing to do with Pakistan. All the denial fell flat on it's face.
     
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    Really?? Pak Army killed all Baluchis? How come you survived? How much did you pay them? Oh well no thy had already bought you over to spy on your brethren.
     
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    US bid to get space in Balochistan


    US bid to get space in Balochistan


    Pakistani establishment is being harried in the course of diverse slants by foreign media campaign as at one hand altitude western cant is claiming ‘the presence of Quetta Shura Taliban’ in Balochistan province, on the other hand intelligentsia and armed forces were preplanned slandered to be involved in human rights violation and enforced disappearances. All these issues were sparked among the foreign press especially Indian media is heaving too much before Muntar’s another attempt for talks over aperture of a US consulate in the constituency,

    Muntar’s first visit was accompanied by Consul General William Martin on 2 May 2011, which attended Pashtoon Jirga of the tribal chieftain, The Jirga brought together 16 Pashtoon tribal elders from Balochistan who discussed issues of mutual interest, including economic development in the province and assured full cooperation in terms of financial aid, medical assistance and job opportunities to the Pashtoon tribesmen, many of the chieftains were agreed in the midst of the conditions, but there is still a red signal by Pakistani establishment for opening of a US consulate in Balochistan.

    Cameron Munter “unprecedented efforts for getting space into Balochistan’s province is not enchanting place due to security reasons, although we term Balochistan ‘the poorest’ province of Pakistan but in fact Balochistan is the country’s richest prefecture in terms of natural resources and has significant role owing to Gwadar port. Pakistani establishment fears Tehrik-e-Taliban’s arrival to the province as it was already resisting towards the growing number of attacks and threats made by Baloch insurgents, yet citizen fear of target killers being increased each day of this year, School going children fall pray to psychological trauma and many of the families have left Quetta en route for other safer cities. Conversely Baloch freedom fighters have amplified their maneuver in destroying government assets and killing of the educationists, doctors and other high profile people working within the government institutions, this year more than 1654 civilian have reportedly been killed across Balochistan by Baloch insurgents. Large number of Baloch also travel to Iran, mascot, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan via Panjgur and Dalbandin frontier which may be an increasing trend of missing persons claimed by them.

    Personal enmity among the Baloch tribesmen may be a reason of mutilated bodies, typically contenders are killed in revenge while mutilated bodies are thrown away in different localities, and it has become an uncomplicated stunt for Baloch groups’ exorcising themselves and putting charge on defense agencies. Lawyer and civil societies exaggerating chargers of this orthodoxy at the security agencies may impair the reputation of the state run agencies. Balochistan has become a major target of rival attacks since the fall of Akbar Bugti’s ecstasy in 2006, it gave more chances of the distant rebellion venture, people have stopped visiting Quetta from Punjab and other major cities, the lives and livelihood of both businessmen and traders have been affected due to continued shutter down strikes each day of a week, killing & kidnapping has almost marred the peace.

    Security forces, especially the FC and the police, have increasingly become the target for the militant groups but its portrait is being outlined the mother of all evils. Large number of militant groups are being funded by chieftains in Balochistan, these Baloch chieftains cleave to have huge amount of money in their bank accounts getting through different money transfer services from Afghanistan and even from abroad, mostly the funds are in silhouette of trade but these activities couldn’t be brought to an end due to officially recognized as a legal process of money transferring into their bank accounts and lack of intelligence inquiries in this outstanding process, are also blow to security services. In the state of disorder and flashpoint, there is no option left for enhancement of security forces expansion in the entire Balochistan but Chief Minister Balochistan Nawab Aslam Raisani is not willingly accepting this offer for last four years, Raisani asked Gilani to place the FC under the provincial government because the security check posts were making problems for Baloch people, but the premier along with Interior Minister Rehman Malik and other cabinet members strongly opposed the idea, saying it was a federal force established under the Federal Force Act 1959 and could never be placed under a provincial government. This obstacle still continued between Raisani and Premier Yousaf Raza Gillani and may be demonstrating deceitful conduct with the federal government. Alternatively throughout preceding four years, FC seized huge amount of artillery and various illicit foreign weapons in different regions of Balochistan during raids and covert operations even at the check posts.

    Development schemes of assorted edifice have been stopped due to attacks on government assets. “The BLA (Balochistan Liberation Army) and other Baloch nationalist elements have also stepped up their campaign against the Chinese engineers, it is fact that China a time-tested friend of Pakistan in the region is engaged in projects worth of 20$ billions projects in the country including Gawadar International Port, Chinese have responded positively to all requests from Pakistan for their involvement in Balochistan in terms of development projects like railway track, gas pipelines and electricity in Balochistan Province, with the passage of time insurgents have increased acts of destroying railway tracks, gas pipelines and electricity pylons and such attacks have reached almost to the crest. Most of the times forensic researchers discover Russian shells of bullets and salvo pieces, being used in covert attacks. Chinese Development projects plans have badly suffered due to continues attacks by the insurgent groups, but US is still committed to open a remote consulate in Quetta, how US is dead sure that Baloch insurgents funded in Afghanistan will never pose a threat to their presence in Balochistan. Baloch militia is also a part of indian network which is gathering intelligence for Indian & Russians, Besides Afghan agents are still operating in Balochistan they have been funding local Pashtoons in Afghanistan to rush Quetta and work for them, so here is concoction of involvement and security threat. CIA’s gathering intelligence information is still a useless deed as presence of Quetta Shura makes no sense in Balochistan, physical arrest of Taliban is not a victory of Afghan war, the victory is how to impede brains behind Taliban which may be presumed a high command for Afghan Taliban, and their existence may be concern to leader of the global war heads.

    Rotten culpability entertainment in context to Indian media where Taliban, Al-Qaeda and roots of the global terrorism are often linked to Pakistan’s Premier intelligence agency ISI, is a also making an immense distinction on foreign policy regarding Afghanistan, India’s charisma in Afghanistan is manufacture of anti improvement of political infrastructure, that compel Pakistani policy makers to take a U-turn, this move cannot bring peace to the region and poor people of Balochistan will always suffer from multi-directional interventions. Pakistan has resorted to the best interest of its country, over the past six months, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency captured four senior leaders of the Afghan Taliban, including Mullah Omar’s deputy who served as the head of the top shura, the leader of a regional shura, and two shadow governors including Mulla Salam, Hafiz Abdul Majeed, but Mike Mullen in not reaching to an agreement whether to trust ISI or not. The roots of the global terrorism still exist is Afghanistan while retaliating to end global terror, US has to take key stakeholder on the board to make further arrests, which is definitely Pakistan. Pakistan as an ally of the United States can bring peace to the region if encouraged and appreciated.
     
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    The US objectives set for Pakistan



    Although the US has failed to win war in Afghanistan, it has succeeded in achieving most objectives it had chalked out in September 2001 against Pakistan through covert war. As against the advice of India, the US desisted from applying direct strategy due to Pakistan’s nuclear capability. The US and its strategic partners therefore embarked upon a well-thought plan to gradually weaken Pakistan and its institutions politically, socially, economically and militarily to such an extent that it becomes powerless and either voluntarily hands over the keys of its nuclear arsenal in return for aid for its survival or else it becomes so paralytic that it is unable to respond when nuclear arsenal is physically struck. Besides denuclearization, other major objectives were to make Pakistan forget about Kashmir and to accept India’s hegemony. Progress so far made by adversaries of Pakistan is listed as under:
    * Weight of the war on terror has been craftily shifted from Afghanistan to Pakistan.

    * The people of northwestern tribal belt that were always regarded as our assets and had guarded our western border without any assistance from armed forces have turned hostile and a segment among them in its misplaced belief of establishing a caliphate is towing the agenda of adversaries of Pakistan.

    * The western border that had become safe from 1989 onwards during the Mujahideen rule followed by Taliban rule in Kabul has once again become unsafe and has assumed dangerous proportions due to presence of US-NATO forces in Afghanistan and their mounting aggressiveness.

    * Peaceful and docile Balochistan is up in arms and rebellious Baloch nationalists are demanding independent Balochistan. Non-locals have migrated in huge numbers.

    * Indian influence in Afghanistan that had vanished during Taliban rule has returned to haunt Pakistan. The US is striving to make India a key country in the region after its departure from Afghanistan. Indian and Israeli presence in Afghanistan has posed a two-front threat to Pakistan’s security.

    * Volatile forces are active in whole of FATA, several parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and Balochistan. Sindh is also restive and Karachi has become a killing field for target killers while southern Punjab is fast falling into the loop of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan.

    * CIA, FBI, MI-6, agents have made deep inroads in government departments, legal fraternity and media while RAW and Blackwater have established networks in all the troubled regions of Pakistan. RAW’s involvement in Gilgit and CIA’s penetration within armed forces are latest revelations.

    * Under a planned strategy, India has been given a go-ahead to construct large number of dams on all the rivers flowing into Pakistan to create acute water scarcity in Pakistan and make it dependent upon India. Water strategy will be applied by India to solve Kashmir dispute on Indian terms.

    * Kashmir is almost a lost cause and talks are at best confined to confidence building measures only. Arrest of Kashmiri leader Ghulam Nabi Fai in USA is aimed at breaking the unarmed resistance movement of Kashmiris seeking right of self determination.

    * A large part of Pakistan’s Army, paramilitary forces and police have got deeply embroiled in fighting its own people on own soil with little hope of extrication in near future.

    * While precious military resources of Pak Army are being wasted out in futile war on terror, Indian military conventional and nuclear capabilities have been vastly upgraded to outclass Pakistan’s military capability and also weaken its nuclear deterrence value.

    * Application of indirect strategy by our adversaries to weaken Pakistan from within has rendered our nuclear deterrence redundant.

    * Pakistan has been gifted with NRO cleansed leaders who are totally subservient to the wishes of Washington.

    * The US administration has tightened its iron grip over the ruling regime to an extent that it treats Pakistan as its 51st state.

    * The rulers have on several occasions declared that Pakistan faces no threat from India. This change of mindset in respect of archrival which yearns to put Pakistan in the shredding machine is a drastic transformation which the US could only do.

    * Pakistan is US ally and is not at war with USA but is being subjected to drone attacks, threats etc.
     
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    pleases top posting articles from nation.com.pk, its an ISI/PA mouthpiece, there will never ever be anything logical from that scape but only propaganda and least we give space to that propaganda here on DFI and indirectly become a part of it.

    paktribune, pakobserver are all a part of it, so please refrain.

    thanks:).

    PS: thread is locked.
     
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