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  1. Nagraj

    Nagraj Regular Member

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    came across this online thought i should share!
    I repeat i think its an interesting hypothesis.

    the best kept secret

    The best kept secret is most definitely the Indian non violent independence movement. In fact honestly there is nothing even close to it. Because it really is a secret of the highest order. What is the secret ? This is based on partial access to some classified historical documents but I do not officially claim to have seen anything.

    The British "gave" independence to India for absolutely no reasons connected with the freedom movement. But 1.25 billion Indians have been programmed to believe that they got freedom because they fought for it. Gandhi has become one of the greatest icons of modern history. But his efforts were in no way related to India's actual freedom. In fact the British found Gandhi the most convenient man and that is why they kept him alive as long as possible. Because they realized this was the best way to stretch their stay in India in a very convenient non violent sort of way. Less than a hundred targeted killings of British officers and the British would have scooted within a year. The British knew this a few decades before India's actual independence. That is why it was they literally stage managed Gandhi's path to becoming the highly revered Mahatma.

    Gandhi's theory of non violence was almost a God send for the British. When sporadic violence erupted in British India, the British feared there would be no way they could control such a large population if they adopted violent means at the level of the citizen even to a very small extent. Gandhi was an absolute Savior for the British. In fact with his help the British got the Indian army to fight World War 2 for them.

    What is there in the historical documents which I officially claim to be fiction is mainly discussions about the opportunity costs. The British had access to a land three times the size of India - Australia where even if they filled their entire population it would still be less. The economics of Controlling India vs Trading with India purely on a comparitive basis only marginally favored controlling India and taken with the risk of possible violence and citizen protests it was simply not worth it. The best solution for the British was to quit India in the most non violent friendly fashion so that they could continue to trade with India and then focus on their other assets like Australia which were the real future.

    In India there is a small section of people who do understand this but generally it is not very convenient to speak about this in public as the government would squash down any such analysis in the public.

    You tell me. Could there be a bigger secret in the world ?
     
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  3. Raj30

    Raj30 Senior Member Senior Member

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    The Sunday Tribune - Spectrum
    WHICH phase of our freedom struggle won for us Independence? Mahatma Gandhi’s 1942 Quit India movement or The INA army launched by Netaji Bose to free India or the Royal Indian Navy Mutiny of 1946? According to the British Prime Minister Clement Attlee, during whose regime India became free, it was the INA and the RIN Mutiny of February 18-23 1946 that made the British realise that their time was up in India.

    An extract from a letter written by P.V. Chuckraborty, former Chief Justice of Calcutta High Court, on March 30 1976, reads thus: "When I was acting as Governor of West Bengal in 1956, Lord Clement Attlee, who as the British Prime Minister in post war years was responsible for India’s freedom, visited India and stayed in Raj Bhavan Calcutta for two days`85 I put it straight to him like this: ‘The Quit India Movement of Gandhi practically died out long before 1947 and there was nothing in the Indian situation at that time, which made it necessary for the British to leave India in a hurry. Why then did they do so?’ In reply Attlee cited several reasons, the most important of which were the INA activities of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, which weakened the very foundation of the British Empire in India, and the RIN Mutiny which made the British realise that the Indian armed forces could no longer be trusted to prop up the British. When asked about the extent to which the British decision to quit India was influenced by Mahatma Gandhi’s 1942 movement, Attlee’s lips widened in smile of disdain and he uttered, slowly, ‘Minimal’."

    Also read ===>Ajit Vadakayil: THE DIABOLICAL BRAIN WASHING PROCESS OF MAHATMA GANDHI- CAPT AJIT VADAKAYIL
    ===>Ajit Vadakayil: MAHATMA GANDHI , RE-WRITING INDIAN HISTORY -- CAPT AJIT VADAKAYIL
     
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    warriorextreme Senior Member Senior Member

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    I would go on to say that Gandhi was a british agent.
     
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    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    :shocked:

    Next you will say he dressed that way for assignations with Churchill?
     
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    The impacts of Netaji Bose to free India and the Royal Indian Navy Mutiny of 1946 have not been fully recognized IMO for the independence, esp. the former.
     
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    Depends on what you mean by "fully recognized". The national narrative ofcourse, as propagated by the Congress, which ruled India for most of the time after independence, is indeed, that it was Gandhi's non-violence movement that convinced the British to quit India.

    The more important reasons however are, along with the two that you've already mentioned, the size of the British Indian army.
     
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    Yes, Mahatma did have his own shortcomings but to say that only and only because of british propaganda he became something is not right. He did initiate/participate in mass movements against british. Yes, congress did goof up to bring down certain movements which they belived went out of their hands and which cost the nation. But one of the main contributions of Mahatma is to ensure that harijans stay within hindu fold and not have their own separate electorate which would de-stabilze the country much more. Instead he told that there would some seats reserved for harijans whereby only harijans could stand for elections over there. These two are the important contributions
    i) Played his part in mobilization of people against british
    II) Similar to muslims, harijans didn't have separate electorates

    So now if one says that, is he the only one who fought against british?? Certainly not, many else also did. But please give him his due. There is no point belittling our own leaders.
     
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    It is not a secret and even is well documented by many authors specially the Leftist historians like Romilla Thapar. The Indian Neval Mutiny as also refusal by one of the units of Garhwal Rifles (Havildar Chander Singh Garhwali) to fire on unarmed Lal Kurti demonstrators of Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan in NWFP are well documented.

    Yes, Gandhi and Congress were against inciting any armed mutinies in aid of the freedom movements as against the INA of Subhash Chandra Bose.Still those occured but were contained. The Congress was also against the likes of Bhagat Singh who had become voilant in persuit of their objectives. Congress did not want any alternatives to emerge and assimilated in their fold the Communists and fringe communal elements like Khilafat and proponents of seperate representation who later became Muslim League. Elements of Hindu Mahasabha were at times part of the Congress but emerged as seperate entity later on only.

    Carrying together that large behemoth composed of so much diversity of interests and ideologies was the biggest contribution of Gandhi.
     

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