Intercontinental SLBM for India

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  1. Nirvana

    Nirvana Regular Member

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    Need of A Submarine Launched Intercontinental Ballistic Missile for India ?

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    Long Range SLBM - an Ultimate Deterrent


    The Indian Strategic force's as of Now do not Possess an Active SLBM.The K-15 SLBM with a range of Over 800 Km is under Production.With Induction of INS Arihant - the Lone SSBN that India Possess as of now and the K-15 Missile's,India will complete it's Nuclear Triad with Ability of Launching a Nuclear Warhead from Land,Air,Sea.But How Effective will this Triad be ? the K-15 with such a short range will it Contribute to the Triad when it come's to Maintaining deterrent against Arch-Rival China ?

    Let Alone China,The K-15 Lack's the punch even when it come's to Pakistan.Thus,the development of K-4 SLBM with a range of 3,500 km and another Rumoured development of A-6 SLBM with a Range of over 6,000 Km.

    India is currently Working on 2 more Arihant class SSBN's and will have an Option to build more.Nuclear Submarine's are more safer Basing option for Nuclear Missile's because of it's ability to Move and stay submerged for long duration of time when Compared to land Based Missiles.Another advantage of SLBM's is Difficulty it present to enemy surveillance, detection, and defensive systems.The soon to be tested A-5 ICBM will Cover the distant Chinese Cities If fired from North India.So it doesn't make sense to work on Further development of Long range Land based Missile's rather than Submarine Launched one's.

    Along it's Advantage's there are Some Disadvantage's of SLBM.The main Advantage of such Submarine lies in it's ability to hide,But in case a "Boomer" is detected,It's effectiveness in Launching a Missile fade's away until it evades enemy Surveillance system again.Another advantage is to carry out Quieter operation while submerged under Water.

    Consider a Situation where a Long range SLBM with over 10,000 Km Range deployed on a Arihant class "Boomer" submerged Somewhere Near African coast in the Indian ocean or Somewhere near South of Indonesia in the Indian ocean can Target Distant Chinese Cities like Shanghai.
    To met the goal of an "Ultimate Deterrent Force", the Indian strategic force's need to Possess a "Long Range Intercontinental Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile" with 3-10 MIRV/MARV Warhead's.

    Discuss if India should develop an SLBM with Range over 10,000 km on Par with Modern SLBM's like Trident II and Bulava ?

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  3. Singh

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    I have been saying for ages, our nuclear deterrent is incomplete and our NFU policy useless till we don't get Intercontinental SLBMs.
     
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    First lets get ICBM then next step well be SL (ICBM).
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    1) Get ICBM's,
    2) Test Megatonne Warheads
    3) Drop No First Use
    4) Build Nuke subs with bigger & more number of launch tubes. I doubt the Arihant class launch tubes can house a missile with range more than 3500 km
    5) Get SLBM's with 10K plus range.

    All this has to be accomplished by 2020. Follow the Chinese model of crude deployment. Our stupid approach of perfection before deployment is costing us. We can retire crude systems as time goes by and more mature systems take their place.
     
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    Why the need for "Intercontinental Ballistic Missile"? Does India have enemies outside Asia?
     
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    Who knows? Maybe sometime in the future?
     
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    Number of enemies are directly proportional to a nation's growth. So we never know.
     
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    There was a time when USA sent it's nuclear powered warship to the Indian shores as a mark of war. I m sure a war between India and USA could be a distant possibility now. But just in case they never think of doing something like that again.
     
  10. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    actually we want to fire ICBM from south atlantic ocean towards China or Pakistan.
     
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    My point here was we Need to develop a Missile that can be fired through a "Boomer" from as long as Southern tip of Indian ocean which will cover the total Land Mass of China - such Missile's are not meant for Tactical target's but Strategic target's like Industrial cities , Naval Harbour,Strategic Bomber Base , where the Submarine can stay submerged w/o getting detected

    we Need an Ultimate deterrent against Someone like china just in case a war broke out

    as our Air chief said " India need's to develop such Missile to match it's sphere of Influence "

    we need to come out of "Minimal deterrence policy" against china
     
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    Such a Capability is meant to "Prevent a war" , we don't have Hegemonic design's unlike some Countries
     
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    we Need to Incorporate MIRV/MARV in such Missile's.DRDO has integrated MIRV Warhead's in A-5 and Research on Marv has started as was reported by Tarmak007

    I have recently started a Blog...will post more as i will get time

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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    Take a wild guess
     
  15. ashicjose

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    Funding in land based ICBM is wasting money and time because we stand for NO FIRST USE policy and all out retaliation ,if our enemy planning for a nuclear attack definitely they will try to take our all BMs.So we should focus on submarine based long range ballistic missiles
     
  16. sayareakd

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    not like that if God forbids such at situation has come when we have to fire our nukes in anger then best way to fire is from IC-SLBM from the south atlantic ocean to confuse China as to who has actually fired this missile.

    China has USA, Russia and India, all of them aiming for it with nukes, why not use this for our advantage.
     
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  17. ashicjose

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    for retaliation land based ones not good.
     
  18. sayareakd

    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    with HSTDV all these things would be obsolete.
     
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